Hey guys
i assume this question as a simple answer that everyone knows, but since ive been backpacking in thaikand, laos, Cambodia and Vietnam for the last 3 months, and am now vacationing in thailand, im out of the loop..
so after apologizing, please tell me. assuming i have a tons of MF on my gear and i join a group of 3 (so we're a full group of 4), do all of us get better drops, or just me? (assuming its still idevidual drops - each person gets their own drops that only they cna see and pick up, like it was before i left for my trip?)
It's averaged between players
If you join a group with +100% and everyone else is at 33%, then everyone will be at 50% for their own drops.
This, and you get I believe 20% of the mf from your merc, might be something useful to know :).
Now that I said this I wonder if the merc mf is counted before or after the group mf% split.. I guess it will be before.
Merc Mf won't impact the group mf% split at all since you can't have a group and a merc at the same time XD
Hopefully it will... A Group is a Group but an avrage i think is silly. What you said about the merc makes more sense... If maybe you got 50% out of the groups avrage and 20% off the merc (PLUS WHAT YOU HAVE) that makes more sense.
But like i said im so outside the loop that i cant even begin to think things through
Merc Mf won't impact the group mf% split at all since you can't have a group and a merc at the same time XD
Wait, not at all? Not even when there's only 3 players ingame there can't be a merc? Aww that's kinda sad..
I could see some aura sorcs or heal templars being quite a good addition to a 3 man team
Haha it's not like SWTOR unfortunately
It's a shame because enemies get stronger if you have an extra player, but not if you are alone and use a merc :(.
Why are people complaining about this so much? Why do people think endgame they will simply load up 90000% magic find and be able to do the same dps as people who arent using magic find?
Not only that, does averaging not sound better then 1 700% leech doing absolutely no dmg standing around letting you kill all the mobs while he afk farms your group? I'd rather everyone benefit then 1 700% leech getting all the drops.
This is exactly what I would have done. I would have put on every piece of junk magic find blue garbage I could, and afk'd while you killed everything. Now, at least you benefit from having a leech like me in your party.
Not everyone here is gonna be pimped to the gills best on server magic find/items anyways, even though you talk like you are. The majority of you are actually going to benefit from this, considering the best gear being out of most of your reach unless you find it, and the kill speed probably rivals or surpasses what you would accomplish trying to be stingy with your gear.
I hope inferno is hard enough that a bunch of snobs try and group up with all magic find and just get raped.
Why are people complaining about this so much? Why do people think endgame they will simply load up 90000% magic find and be able to do the same dps as people who arent using magic find?
Not only that, does averaging not sound better then 1 700% leech doing absolutely no dmg standing around letting you kill all the mobs while he afk farms your group? I'd rather everyone benefit then 1 700% leech getting all the drops.
This is exactly what I would have done. I would have put on every piece of junk magic find blue garbage I could, and afk'd while you killed everything. Now, at least you benefit from having a leech like me in your party.
Not everyone here is gonna be pimped to the gills best on server magic find/items anyways, even though you talk like you are. The majority of you are actually going to benefit from this, considering the best gear being out of most of your reach unless you find it, and the kill speed probably rivals or surpasses what you would accomplish trying to be stingy with your gear.
I hope inferno is hard enough that a bunch of snobs try and group up with all magic find and just get raped.
Frankly because people are dumb.
They think they will outgear everyone else, which is hilarious, because everyone else thinks that too.
They also think that they are just flat out better than everyone else at the game or at least the majority. So, even if they are outgeared by some Chinese farmers or lifeless nerds, which are not real people in their eyes, they are still better.
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One is never hurt by being given additional choices, only by taking them away. A QUADRILLION MAGIC FIND is worthless if you can't kill shit!
Why are people complaining about this so much? Why do people think endgame they will simply load up 90000% magic find and be able to do the same dps as people who arent using magic find?
Not only that, does averaging not sound better then 1 700% leech doing absolutely no dmg standing around letting you kill all the mobs while he afk farms your group? I'd rather everyone benefit then 1 700% leech getting all the drops.
This is exactly what I would have done. I would have put on every piece of junk magic find blue garbage I could, and afk'd while you killed everything. Now, at least you benefit from having a leech like me in your party.
Not everyone here is gonna be pimped to the gills best on server magic find/items anyways, even though you talk like you are. The majority of you are actually going to benefit from this, considering the best gear being out of most of your reach unless you find it, and the kill speed probably rivals or surpasses what you would accomplish trying to be stingy with your gear.
I hope inferno is hard enough that a bunch of snobs try and group up with all magic find and just get raped.
Frankly because people are dumb.
They think they will outgear everyone else, which is hilarious, because everyone else thinks that too.
They also think that they are just flat out better than everyone else at the game or at least the majority. So, even if they are outgeared by some Chinese farmers or lifeless nerds, which are not real people in their eyes, they are still better.
Yea, this whole everyone leeching off their hard earned gear is comical. Most of them are going to be the ones leeching unless you fall into a few criteria for a large chunk start of the game. You either have: A lot of disposable income, A lot of luck on drops, or A huge huge chunk of free time to play. If you dont fall into 1 or more of these categories, then you are gonna be rocking mediocre gear for awhile until it actually starts saturating the market to the point you can afford to get it.
I know its cute having dreams and aspirations of being the best, but be real with yourself on what is actually going to be possible this early in the game, and remember how scarce items were in d2 before mass botting, dupers, rune words. You could only ever dream of owning a Windforce or a Grandfather for a very very long time. Same deal will apply in D3.
I remember being happy with my Cruel Bastard sword of Swiftness(I think) blue sword that was bad ass for a long time, because a Grandfather was still costing over or close to 1 grand.
if you're killing in a group then monsters may be getting killed faster than if you were solo. if the other players have less MF then that's more likely to be true.
so even if your MF drops in a group you may still get better drops in the same amount of time
Still is the worst decision they've made in my opinion. Now I will never play with other people because I'm a Magic Find whore like that.
It was the only system that made sense. Its perfectly fair this way.
You saying you will never group with anyone sounds like people saying they won't buy the game. You know they will.
0.7*your MF + 0.3*average of other people in the group. Or something like that.
Good plan, except the part where its not a zero point system thus making it a terrible plan.
Assuming you fudged with the #s to make it work, guess what? You end up with the same system in place once you take DPS into account.
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"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"
Why are people complaining about this so much? Why do people think endgame they will simply load up 90000% magic find and be able to do the same dps as people who arent using magic find?
Not only that, does averaging not sound better then 1 700% leech doing absolutely no dmg standing around letting you kill all the mobs while he afk farms your group? I'd rather everyone benefit then 1 700% leech getting all the drops.
This is exactly what I would have done. I would have put on every piece of junk magic find blue garbage I could, and afk'd while you killed everything. Now, at least you benefit from having a leech like me in your party.
Not everyone here is gonna be pimped to the gills best on server magic find/items anyways, even though you talk like you are. The majority of you are actually going to benefit from this, considering the best gear being out of most of your reach unless you find it, and the kill speed probably rivals or surpasses what you would accomplish trying to be stingy with your gear.
I hope inferno is hard enough that a bunch of snobs try and group up with all magic find and just get raped.
Frankly because people are dumb.
They think they will outgear everyone else, which is hilarious, because everyone else thinks that too.
They also think that they are just flat out better than everyone else at the game or at least the majority. So, even if they are outgeared by some Chinese farmers or lifeless nerds, which are not real people in their eyes, they are still better.
Yea, this whole everyone leeching off their hard earned gear is comical. Most of them are going to be the ones leeching unless you fall into a few criteria for a large chunk start of the game. You either have: A lot of disposable income, A lot of luck on drops, or A huge huge chunk of free time to play. If you dont fall into 1 or more of these categories, then you are gonna be rocking mediocre gear for awhile until it actually starts saturating the market to the point you can afford to get it.
I know its cute having dreams and aspirations of being the best, but be real with yourself on what is actually going to be possible this early in the game, and remember how scarce items were in d2 before mass botting, dupers, rune words. You could only ever dream of owning a Windforce or a Grandfather for a very very long time. Same deal will apply in D3.
I remember being happy with my Cruel Bastard sword of Swiftness(I think) blue sword that was bad ass for a long time, because a Grandfather was still costing over or close to 1 grand.
TLDR unfurtunatly, but if u have a point in a short version id love to read it and reply (i mean this honestly and without joking)
TLDR unfurtunatly, but if u have a point in a short version id love to read it and reply (i mean this honestly and without joking)
Yah it would be a crying shame if one of the wannabe leechers had to do some work, like read.
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"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"
i assume this question as a simple answer that everyone knows, but since ive been backpacking in thaikand, laos, Cambodia and Vietnam for the last 3 months, and am now vacationing in thailand, im out of the loop..
so after apologizing, please tell me. assuming i have a tons of MF on my gear and i join a group of 3 (so we're a full group of 4), do all of us get better drops, or just me? (assuming its still idevidual drops - each person gets their own drops that only they cna see and pick up, like it was before i left for my trip?)
If you join a group with +100% and everyone else is at 33%, then everyone will be at 50% for their own drops.
Merc Mf won't impact the group mf% split at all since you can't have a group and a merc at the same time XD
But like i said im so outside the loop that i cant even begin to think things through
Thank you so much for the quick answer!
Haha it's not like SWTOR unfortunately
It's a shame because enemies get stronger if you have an extra player, but not if you are alone and use a merc :(.
Not only that, does averaging not sound better then 1 700% leech doing absolutely no dmg standing around letting you kill all the mobs while he afk farms your group? I'd rather everyone benefit then 1 700% leech getting all the drops.
This is exactly what I would have done. I would have put on every piece of junk magic find blue garbage I could, and afk'd while you killed everything. Now, at least you benefit from having a leech like me in your party.
Not everyone here is gonna be pimped to the gills best on server magic find/items anyways, even though you talk like you are. The majority of you are actually going to benefit from this, considering the best gear being out of most of your reach unless you find it, and the kill speed probably rivals or surpasses what you would accomplish trying to be stingy with your gear.
I hope inferno is hard enough that a bunch of snobs try and group up with all magic find and just get raped.
They think they will outgear everyone else, which is hilarious, because everyone else thinks that too.
They also think that they are just flat out better than everyone else at the game or at least the majority. So, even if they are outgeared by some Chinese farmers or lifeless nerds, which are not real people in their eyes, they are still better.
A QUADRILLION MAGIC FIND is worthless if you can't kill shit!
Yea, this whole everyone leeching off their hard earned gear is comical. Most of them are going to be the ones leeching unless you fall into a few criteria for a large chunk start of the game. You either have: A lot of disposable income, A lot of luck on drops, or A huge huge chunk of free time to play. If you dont fall into 1 or more of these categories, then you are gonna be rocking mediocre gear for awhile until it actually starts saturating the market to the point you can afford to get it.
I know its cute having dreams and aspirations of being the best, but be real with yourself on what is actually going to be possible this early in the game, and remember how scarce items were in d2 before mass botting, dupers, rune words. You could only ever dream of owning a Windforce or a Grandfather for a very very long time. Same deal will apply in D3.
I remember being happy with my Cruel Bastard sword of Swiftness(I think) blue sword that was bad ass for a long time, because a Grandfather was still costing over or close to 1 grand.
so even if your MF drops in a group you may still get better drops in the same amount of time
0.7*your MF + 0.3*average of other people in the group. Or something like that.
You saying you will never group with anyone sounds like people saying they won't buy the game. You know they will.
Good plan, except the part where its not a zero point system thus making it a terrible plan.
Assuming you fudged with the #s to make it work, guess what? You end up with the same system in place once you take DPS into account.
Epicurus
TLDR unfurtunatly, but if u have a point in a short version id love to read it and reply (i mean this honestly and without joking)
Epicurus