Forgive me If I am wrong, but is that not what this whole post is about that, again, forgive me if i am sorely mistaken, YOU STARTED?
If you can't beat em, join em... In all honesty yes you are right. I am perfect example of the negative, bitter Diablo mentality because of these design decisions. I compare that to Torchlight 2 because I am actively involved in that community and it is NOTHING like this. 99% of their fanbase supports them, it's a very positive, enthusisatic mentality and the developers take a very active role communicating with the fanbase doing what they can to make a better game for everyone... They are even looking into potentially having official software to support player run servers; something only Bioware has ever done for Neverwinter Nights... Something Blizzard is 100% opposed to.
The menality here only proves my point when you even bring up how much potential Torchlight 2 has where ignorant people bust out a "Torchlight 2 sucks" Runic's vision for that game makes me far more excited about it than Blizzard's close minded, cash obssessed decisions with their paralyzing fear some people may pirate the game or not use our auction house if they allow us to play offline or not play on their server.. Oh yah and modding, they can't allow that either because it would impact their auction house. They are removing essential options and freedoms that are essentially mandatory for most PC games now adays "unless it's a suscription based mmorpg or a cash shop online rpg"
I am a person who supported and respect Blizzard, but that has all but change. They have lost their way and any sense of innovation... All they care about is making money, not about their community or their fanbase... Look how many minority groups within their fanbase they have crushed under the guise of stopping piracy and making cash. Diablo 3 is just another cash cow intended to milk it's players by any means nessecary; the auction house and removal of offline mode and banning mods entirely is evidence enough of that.
No offline mode at all anymore?
Log in, start game. It isnt hard? You do have a normal internet do you, and not something you pay just to get connected do you?
frog in boiling water?
i think the lack of a real offline mode is pure BS compared to years of games which had single player modes that didn't require net connections
i don't understand why i'd need to have a "phone-home" mechanism just to play my game on single player, it damn sure won't matter to pirates who will surely figure out a way around it
This game doesn't satisfy the parameters to be an MMORPG. I really don't know what you're talking about. Online-only games have existed for ages (Savage, HoN), doesn't make them MMO's lol.
The offline only thing is dumb but that's a different topic.
The whole offline restriction thing often means I either have 2 version of the game (offline-capable by shady means + normal), or have a secondary SP game to play when my internet randomly dies.
Bashiok posted a bit earlier this evening and clarified; there IS an offline single-player mode, they just encourage everyone towards Bnet play.
If I had to guess there's probably something like the SC2 setup in the works, where at least a 1-time online activation is required, though this shouldn't be very surprising to anyone. Honestly in this day and age I don't think it's all that unreasonable.
Honestly in this day and age I don't think it's all that unreasonable.
There is no 'day and age' of which you speak of.
It is unreasonable if you care about your players' convenience, which Blizzard obviously does not.
I'm in a village far away there's no internet here. I got my SCII copy. Install- crap I can't play it.
This is done for supposed (not guaranteed) profit while hurting the players.
Not all of us are stuck in cities with perfect high speed internet 24/7/4/12. Old school gamers especially value freedom a lot, this limits.
Honestly in this day and age I don't think it's all that unreasonable.
There is no 'day and age' of which you speak of.
It is unreasonable if you care about your players' convenience, which Blizzard obviously does not.
I'm in a village far away there's no internet here. I got my SCII copy. Install- crap I can't play it.
This is done for supposed (not guaranteed) profit while hurting the players.
Not all of us are stuck in cities with perfect high speed internet 24/7/4/12. Old school gamers especially value freedom a lot, this limits.
You seem to be posting on these forums just fine, maybe you can make the same trip out of your village?
Honestly in this day and age I don't think it's all that unreasonable.
There is no 'day and age' of which you speak of.
It is unreasonable if you care about your players' convenience, which Blizzard obviously does not.
I'm in a village far away there's no internet here. I got my SCII copy. Install- crap I can't play it.
This is done for supposed (not guaranteed) profit while hurting the players.
Not all of us are stuck in cities with perfect high speed internet 24/7/4/12. Old school gamers especially value freedom a lot, this limits.
They offer single player offline. IF it takes that 1 activation, I'm sure finding 5 mins of internet to activate it wouldn't be difficult nor "inconvenient". If you can't have more than 5 mins of internet at a time you shouldn't have a computer, let alone be buying Diablo 3.
You can feel slighted by it all you wish (and you have every right to), but you're drawing a very large and vastly problematic claim; you know very well what 'this day and age' means, and making this move that might very well save Blizzard very serious amounts of money at the the cost of annoying a microscopic portion of the player base is simply pragmatism. I'm not saying that microscopic portion shouldn't be annoyed--they should. But saying that creating a better experience for the 95% at the cost of annoying the 5% is 'not caring at all about the players' is incredibly reductive and stretches the truth so thin you can see right through it. The money they save could very well fuel further development, more server hardware, more employees, the next expansion. You can't please everyone but you can please most and whether people are nostalgic for LAN (or genuinely need it, as you do) very few people will actually see it as a big deal or even a notable one. I think there are some like you who at least have an understandable anger over the issue, most of the rest just want to complain to fill the void until they get to play.
IF it takes that 1 activation, I'm sure finding 5 mins of internet to activate it wouldn't be difficult nor "inconvenient". If you can't have more than 5 mins of internet at a time you shouldn't have a computer, let alone be buying Diablo 3.
Ever tried to find internet in a 2nd world country? Funny, there are tons of people in Russia and Ukraine playing Diablo II because it had no problems of that nature at all. But apparently according to you we shouldn't be able to. I guess Diablo is an America-only game now? Have amazing internet and live in the best country or GTFO?
I know what is meant by it. I also know it does not exist. Diablo II was pirated up the whazoo. SCII was pirated in BETA. This is nothing new. This changes nothing. Absolutely. Nothing. It's not new. It's not "this day and age". It's "the day and age that existed for the past 30 years of gaming".
making this move that might very well save Blizzard very serious amounts of money at the the cost of annoying a microscopic portion of the player base is simply pragmatism.
Money should never be above the benefit of humankind.
Blizzard earns tremendous money, everyone should be well aware of that. Blizzard screwing over portions of the playerbase, that ONCE WERE THEIR OLD PLAYERBASE THAT MADE THEM SUCCESSFUL, however miniscule now (you lack the statistics on this), for some untraceable amount of money, is a sign of a very bad moral sense. And regardless of how many times people may claim that a company is only a business, there are lines to be drawn, lines after which a company should no longer be respected and their games played.
I could somewhat try to begin to comprehend this if DIII was an SP only game. It's not. DIII is 90% a multiplayer game. SP won't hurt them. Mods won't hurt them. Them barring and blocking those things is a very bad sign for the customers of a company whether you see it or not. I don't know why you're so concerned about the profits of a company that earned 15 * 6 million * month for 6 years, instead of YOURSELF. I look out for ME, I look out for my fellow GAMERS, not companies and their publishers.
The money they save could very well fuel further development, more server hardware, more employees, the next expansion.
15 * 6 million for 6 years should have fueled something. It didn't. You can't fuel art. It's limited. This money goes in Blizzard's pocket and nowhere else, don't kid yourself.
More employees do not make better games. At most they can make more content, even that is doubtful. That's only relevant to MMO's, anyway, Diablo won't get any new content.
More expansions do not make better games (WotLK). In the past I have played games without expansions for ages without even knowing there was an expansion and never feeling the need. Expansions are often an excuse for lack of features early on.
Server hardware? There's absolutely nothing wrong with the servers of Heroes of Newerth - that company is in the process of dying. How much money does Blizzard need to approach the server quality of tiny sub-indie dying companies?
I'm sorry, I am not blind. I know what's out there, and I can make comparisons. Blizzard has been _falling_ in quality, rather than rising.
You can't please everyone but you can please most and whether people are nostalgic for LAN (or genuinely need it, as you do) very few people will actually see it as a big deal or even a notable one. I think there are some like you who at least have an understandable anger over the issue, most of the rest just want to complain to fill the void until they get to play.
I guess my college friends who want to play SCII over LAN but can't because the internet sucks in their dorm/college or throttles games are just filling the void until they get to play some other game with the same limitations.
OK.
LAN is viable beyond far to reach places. I was talking about offline SP, though, but LAN is in the same basket.
Since your sight be so clear and your comparisons so many, by your own words, please kindly direct us all here to the game that's doing what Diablo 3 will be doing and with even greater quality, since Blizzard's quality has been plummeting so quickly? You rail on and on about not respecting a company or playing it's games, and the obvious implication is apparently you don't think Blizzard deserves our respect or money. If that's true, are you buying the game? If not, why are you still posting here?
You're absolutely right though, there should be lines, certain missteps of moral fortitude for which no company should be forgiven. But we're not talking about how Blizzard is, say, having 9-year-old orphans in a third-world country code up Diablo 3 for cents an hour under harsh conditions, are we? There are companies that do such things and they deserve to be held responsible, but you're using very serious and dramatic language for something that is ostensibly a non-issue for 95% of the player base. If this was going to alienate any notable portion of the player base Blizzard wouldn't be doing it, because even by the logic of pure greed, it's in Blizzard's greedy interest to get as many people playing (read: paying) as possible.
There are companies that do such things and they deserve to be held responsible, but you're using very serious and dramatic language for something that is ostensibly a non-issue for 60% of the player base.
I fixed that for you. College kids, poor kids, 2nd world kids, anybody outside the "rich world" is fucked, and you know it.
If this was going to alienate any notable portion of the player base Blizzard wouldn't be doing it, because even by the logic of pure greed, it's in Blizzard's greedy interest to get as many people playing (read: paying) as possible.
Blizzard is a company. If Blizzard can make more money off one person by charging them microtransactions and only letting them play online then they can being morally right and having 3 or 4 people play, you bet your ass they will go with the one person for more money.
Blizzard is a company. That's all they are. People shouldn't forget that.
If you can afford the $60 for D3 you can afford basic internet. It's not that expensive, it's not that hard to get for most people in the developed world. If you're not in the developed world you've probably never heard of D3, and there's no way you've got a GameStop handy, so this doesn't affect you anyway. That 65% figure is indefensible. You really think only 65% of the people that are looking forward to playing Diablo 3 have reasonable access to a basic internet connection for, at the least, a one-time activation? Seriously? Please type that to me with a straight face.
IF it takes that 1 activation, I'm sure finding 5 mins of internet to activate it wouldn't be difficult nor "inconvenient". If you can't have more than 5 mins of internet at a time you shouldn't have a computer, let alone be buying Diablo 3.
Ever tried to find internet in a 2nd world country? Funny, there are tons of people in Russia and Ukraine playing Diablo II because it had no problems of that nature at all. But apparently according to you we shouldn't be able to. I guess Diablo is an America-only game now? Have amazing internet and live in the best country or GTFO?
THIS is what I'm talking about.
I'm not American nor do I live in America. But based on your statement, people in Russia and Ukraine have 0 internet. Yeah so my relatives in Ukraine use magic to talk to me over skype, awesome. You completely missed my point, I'm not saying if they don't have internet they shouldn't play. My point is, its not unreasonable for blizzard to ask for you to activate your game before your able to play single player offline mode because i'm sure the process wouldn't take longer than 5 mins. This isn't the only game that would ask for some sort of activation either. I understand your point where 2nd world countries and so on have trouble with internet yes but in this "day and age" in which you claim not to exist, internet usage has skyrocketed. Specifically from the time d2 was released till now, as you can see in this 2009 visualization http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&met_y=it_net_user_p2&idim=country:UKR&dl=en&hl=en&q=ukraine internet usage. I'm sure its skyrocked since then too if you notice the pattern.
But based on your statement, people in Russia and Ukraine have 0 internet.
I didn't say that. I'm gonna end that here. I don't want to keep arguing with someone who's either intent on twisting what I said, or has REALLY horrid reading comprehension.
Since your sight be so clear and your comparisons so many, by your own words, please kindly direct us all here to the game that's doing what Diablo 3 will be doing and with even greater quality, since Blizzard's quality has been plummeting so quickly?
Are you trying to use the "if there's no alternative than the thing we have is great and amazing!" argument? It's a false one, I hope you realize.
Most companies right now do not make Hack&Slashes. Although there is Torchlight 2. Which I'll probably end up playing instead of this. No matter how unpolished TL 2 is, it's going to better than Diablo 3 because it doesn't fuck up the player or have an RMA, + mods, I've seen the results in TL 1 and they were great. Grim Dawn looks interesting as well. But I was always able to enjoy Hack&Slashes outside the Diablo franchise. Nox, Sacred - I liked these more than DII. I had fun with TQ. Demon's Souls >>>>>>>>>>>>> DI + DII + DIII already. Some blind fans will see everything without the "Diablo" sticker as bad, so my statement will be ignored here, but I won't have that issue.
SW:TOR will probably be relatively close to WoW, as well, without all the money hogging garbage.
SCII is not that great, either, I find AoE III a much better game overall, even though I was unhappy with AoE III changes compared to AoE II, but SCII feels like a weak graphic update with partial downgrades, while AoE III is a very solid, standalone game with many interesting implementations.
Besides, when was the last time Blizzard did something that wasn't WarCraft, StarCraft, or Diablo? Are they running off their own current success, or mere past success "It's Blizzard so I must buy it"? Really, SCII was not that great. It wasn't. I got it because I liked SC1 and because all my friends were getting SCII. I have significant trouble getting into it these days. WoW was good during vanilla/TBC, which was some while ago. I play it because of a guild. In fact, I feel dirty about that right now.
You rail on and on about not respecting a company or playing it's games, and the obvious implication is apparently you don't think Blizzard deserves our respect or money. If that's true, are you buying the game? If not, why are you still posting here?
I do not believe you have the right to ask a poster from 2006 why they're here. I've been here before DIII was even announced. People who like games come in different forms. Some are blind insane fans who will buy everything relating to their favorite game and grind to 99. Some acknowledge it as a worthwhile title they want to see a continuation towards. I've spent ~4 years on this forum, waiting, watching, what Diablo III was becoming. Perhaps it's time for me to leave, but this forum is not the official forum that exists solely for buttlicking Blizzard. This forum is full of real, living people, who have opinions. And so we make those opinions heard. I'm sorry you think only die hard new Blizzard(tm) fans can post here.
There are companies that do such things and they deserve to be held responsible
When we're discussing that company, I'll discuss that. Just like I don't harp on HoN's recent F2P change on Dark Souls forums, that doesn't make much sense, does it?
but you're using very serious and dramatic language for something that is ostensibly a non-issue for 95% of the player base.
I am a far seer you could say, I take little things and see how they extrapolate into the future, becoming huge. I know that I have to fight for every little crumb, every step of the way, or all will be lost in the numbness that people have when things change... slowly. But slow change is still change. Bad things other companies do at least are recognized as bad things. This isn't.
One person not murdering doesn't excuse their stealing as OK.
If this was going to alienate any notable portion of the player base Blizzard wouldn't be doing it, because even by the logic of pure greed, it's in Blizzard's greedy interest to get as many people playing (read: paying) as possible.
Blizzard doesn't have proper numbers on their actions, though.
Not that I care about pure greed. People are numb, that's why they accept these things. Marketing is all about making people who don't need it think they need it. Then people become the marketers, as if hypnotized.
I am not good at persuasion or conviction. I'm just here to let people know they're not alone. I'm not here to convince you - I can't. You either see it or you don't.
It's not that expensive, it's not that hard to get for most people in the developed world. If you're not in the developed world you've probably never heard of D3, and there's no way you've got a GameStop handy, so this doesn't affect you anyway.
Because, you know, only America, England, Canada, etc, have gamestops, right? Also, there is no such thing as a poor college student, or a kid who got a video game for christmas but his/her parents cannot afford the monthly payments of internet. You know, those people don't exist.
You really think only 65% of the people that are looking forward to playing Diablo 3 have reasonable access to a basic internet connection for, at the least, a one-time activation? Seriously? Please type that to me with a straight face.
wtf did they seriously remove single player??? When did they announce this?
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My bad, saw the blue among the other many Bash posts tonight and it didn't read as dated to me, I didn't double-check the posting date -- this is what happens when some moron rezzes old posts on the forums, sigh.
Like anything else, if enough people want it, they'll put it back in, if most people don't seem to care, they won't. I think they're moving with the times; I understand why it slights some players (I admitted that to begin with), but it obviously doesn't even most of us or it'd be too detrimental to their bottom line for them to do it.
Edit: Eh? I didn't delete anything. We all make mistakes, I'm not ashamed of it.
If you can't beat em, join em... In all honesty yes you are right. I am perfect example of the negative, bitter Diablo mentality because of these design decisions. I compare that to Torchlight 2 because I am actively involved in that community and it is NOTHING like this. 99% of their fanbase supports them, it's a very positive, enthusisatic mentality and the developers take a very active role communicating with the fanbase doing what they can to make a better game for everyone... They are even looking into potentially having official software to support player run servers; something only Bioware has ever done for Neverwinter Nights... Something Blizzard is 100% opposed to.
The menality here only proves my point when you even bring up how much potential Torchlight 2 has where ignorant people bust out a "Torchlight 2 sucks" Runic's vision for that game makes me far more excited about it than Blizzard's close minded, cash obssessed decisions with their paralyzing fear some people may pirate the game or not use our auction house if they allow us to play offline or not play on their server.. Oh yah and modding, they can't allow that either because it would impact their auction house. They are removing essential options and freedoms that are essentially mandatory for most PC games now adays "unless it's a suscription based mmorpg or a cash shop online rpg"
I am a person who supported and respect Blizzard, but that has all but change. They have lost their way and any sense of innovation... All they care about is making money, not about their community or their fanbase... Look how many minority groups within their fanbase they have crushed under the guise of stopping piracy and making cash. Diablo 3 is just another cash cow intended to milk it's players by any means nessecary; the auction house and removal of offline mode and banning mods entirely is evidence enough of that.
i think the lack of a real offline mode is pure BS compared to years of games which had single player modes that didn't require net connections
i don't understand why i'd need to have a "phone-home" mechanism just to play my game on single player, it damn sure won't matter to pirates who will surely figure out a way around it
The offline only thing is dumb but that's a different topic.
The whole offline restriction thing often means I either have 2 version of the game (offline-capable by shady means + normal), or have a secondary SP game to play when my internet randomly dies.
If I had to guess there's probably something like the SC2 setup in the works, where at least a 1-time online activation is required, though this shouldn't be very surprising to anyone. Honestly in this day and age I don't think it's all that unreasonable.
It is unreasonable if you care about your players' convenience, which Blizzard obviously does not.
I'm in a village far away there's no internet here. I got my SCII copy. Install- crap I can't play it.
This is done for supposed (not guaranteed) profit while hurting the players.
Not all of us are stuck in cities with perfect high speed internet 24/7/4/12. Old school gamers especially value freedom a lot, this limits.
You seem to be posting on these forums just fine, maybe you can make the same trip out of your village?
THIS is what I'm talking about.
I know what is meant by it. I also know it does not exist. Diablo II was pirated up the whazoo. SCII was pirated in BETA. This is nothing new. This changes nothing. Absolutely. Nothing. It's not new. It's not "this day and age". It's "the day and age that existed for the past 30 years of gaming".
Money should never be above the benefit of humankind.
Blizzard earns tremendous money, everyone should be well aware of that. Blizzard screwing over portions of the playerbase, that ONCE WERE THEIR OLD PLAYERBASE THAT MADE THEM SUCCESSFUL, however miniscule now (you lack the statistics on this), for some untraceable amount of money, is a sign of a very bad moral sense. And regardless of how many times people may claim that a company is only a business, there are lines to be drawn, lines after which a company should no longer be respected and their games played.
I could somewhat try to begin to comprehend this if DIII was an SP only game. It's not. DIII is 90% a multiplayer game. SP won't hurt them. Mods won't hurt them. Them barring and blocking those things is a very bad sign for the customers of a company whether you see it or not. I don't know why you're so concerned about the profits of a company that earned 15 * 6 million * month for 6 years, instead of YOURSELF. I look out for ME, I look out for my fellow GAMERS, not companies and their publishers.
Wait, what? Where did this come from? This change doesn't affect the 95% at all.
15 * 6 million for 6 years should have fueled something. It didn't. You can't fuel art. It's limited. This money goes in Blizzard's pocket and nowhere else, don't kid yourself.
More employees do not make better games. At most they can make more content, even that is doubtful. That's only relevant to MMO's, anyway, Diablo won't get any new content.
More expansions do not make better games (WotLK). In the past I have played games without expansions for ages without even knowing there was an expansion and never feeling the need. Expansions are often an excuse for lack of features early on.
Server hardware? There's absolutely nothing wrong with the servers of Heroes of Newerth - that company is in the process of dying. How much money does Blizzard need to approach the server quality of tiny sub-indie dying companies?
I'm sorry, I am not blind. I know what's out there, and I can make comparisons. Blizzard has been _falling_ in quality, rather than rising.
I guess my college friends who want to play SCII over LAN but can't because the internet sucks in their dorm/college or throttles games are just filling the void until they get to play some other game with the same limitations.
OK.
LAN is viable beyond far to reach places. I was talking about offline SP, though, but LAN is in the same basket.
You're absolutely right though, there should be lines, certain missteps of moral fortitude for which no company should be forgiven. But we're not talking about how Blizzard is, say, having 9-year-old orphans in a third-world country code up Diablo 3 for cents an hour under harsh conditions, are we? There are companies that do such things and they deserve to be held responsible, but you're using very serious and dramatic language for something that is ostensibly a non-issue for 95% of the player base. If this was going to alienate any notable portion of the player base Blizzard wouldn't be doing it, because even by the logic of pure greed, it's in Blizzard's greedy interest to get as many people playing (read: paying) as possible.
I fixed that for you. College kids, poor kids, 2nd world kids, anybody outside the "rich world" is fucked, and you know it.
Blizzard is a company. If Blizzard can make more money off one person by charging them microtransactions and only letting them play online then they can being morally right and having 3 or 4 people play, you bet your ass they will go with the one person for more money.
Blizzard is a company. That's all they are. People shouldn't forget that.
EDIT: Bashiok confirms offline single-player here, by the way: http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=27387874231&pageNo=1&sid=3000#16
Are you trying to use the "if there's no alternative than the thing we have is great and amazing!" argument? It's a false one, I hope you realize.
Most companies right now do not make Hack&Slashes. Although there is Torchlight 2. Which I'll probably end up playing instead of this. No matter how unpolished TL 2 is, it's going to better than Diablo 3 because it doesn't fuck up the player or have an RMA, + mods, I've seen the results in TL 1 and they were great. Grim Dawn looks interesting as well. But I was always able to enjoy Hack&Slashes outside the Diablo franchise. Nox, Sacred - I liked these more than DII. I had fun with TQ. Demon's Souls >>>>>>>>>>>>> DI + DII + DIII already. Some blind fans will see everything without the "Diablo" sticker as bad, so my statement will be ignored here, but I won't have that issue.
SW:TOR will probably be relatively close to WoW, as well, without all the money hogging garbage.
SCII is not that great, either, I find AoE III a much better game overall, even though I was unhappy with AoE III changes compared to AoE II, but SCII feels like a weak graphic update with partial downgrades, while AoE III is a very solid, standalone game with many interesting implementations.
Besides, when was the last time Blizzard did something that wasn't WarCraft, StarCraft, or Diablo? Are they running off their own current success, or mere past success "It's Blizzard so I must buy it"? Really, SCII was not that great. It wasn't. I got it because I liked SC1 and because all my friends were getting SCII. I have significant trouble getting into it these days. WoW was good during vanilla/TBC, which was some while ago. I play it because of a guild. In fact, I feel dirty about that right now.
I do not believe you have the right to ask a poster from 2006 why they're here. I've been here before DIII was even announced. People who like games come in different forms. Some are blind insane fans who will buy everything relating to their favorite game and grind to 99. Some acknowledge it as a worthwhile title they want to see a continuation towards. I've spent ~4 years on this forum, waiting, watching, what Diablo III was becoming. Perhaps it's time for me to leave, but this forum is not the official forum that exists solely for buttlicking Blizzard. This forum is full of real, living people, who have opinions. And so we make those opinions heard. I'm sorry you think only die hard new Blizzard(tm) fans can post here.
When we're discussing that company, I'll discuss that. Just like I don't harp on HoN's recent F2P change on Dark Souls forums, that doesn't make much sense, does it?
I am a far seer you could say, I take little things and see how they extrapolate into the future, becoming huge. I know that I have to fight for every little crumb, every step of the way, or all will be lost in the numbness that people have when things change... slowly. But slow change is still change. Bad things other companies do at least are recognized as bad things. This isn't.
One person not murdering doesn't excuse their stealing as OK.
Blizzard doesn't have proper numbers on their actions, though.
Not that I care about pure greed. People are numb, that's why they accept these things. Marketing is all about making people who don't need it think they need it. Then people become the marketers, as if hypnotized.
I am not good at persuasion or conviction. I'm just here to let people know they're not alone. I'm not here to convince you - I can't. You either see it or you don't.
Because, you know, only America, England, Canada, etc, have gamestops, right? Also, there is no such thing as a poor college student, or a kid who got a video game for christmas but his/her parents cannot afford the monthly payments of internet. You know, those people don't exist.
Nor is the 95% figure.
Let's just pray those people that don't have internet and don't exist can find internet to activate their games.
Link please, and if so, why was misinformation given out earlier?
Seriously, I'm not finding it in the bluetrackers, but I may just fail.
EDIT: He just proved it. 2010. Not true anymore. They found a better way to encourage online: removing single player.
EDIT 2: Uh? So he just deleted his post? How convenient. He was probably ashamed of his mistake.
Here is the link: http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=27387874231&pageNo=1&sid=3000#16
If you want to arrange it
This world you can change it
If we could somehow make this
Christmas thing last
By helping a neighbor
Or even a stranger
And to know who needs help
You need only just ask
Like anything else, if enough people want it, they'll put it back in, if most people don't seem to care, they won't. I think they're moving with the times; I understand why it slights some players (I admitted that to begin with), but it obviously doesn't even most of us or it'd be too detrimental to their bottom line for them to do it.
Edit: Eh? I didn't delete anything. We all make mistakes, I'm not ashamed of it.