If this solution has already been brought up, then I apologize.
Sorry I just found out about this, and there is an OLD OLD threat talking about it so I decided to update.
There is talk of no town portals because there shouldn't be a cheap way to escape combat ,and go freshen up or whatever, granted, thats fine, but thats not an excuse to completely remove porting from the game.
If they do remove it from the game they should at least have it so you can port to players, with consent, kind of like a town portal, only a one way ticket.
another solution would be to keep town portals, and either 1: make it have a slow cast time or do this little bit.
*player attempts to cast town portal to escape combat ,and go heal*
Computer: " You can not cast town portal when there are enemies near by"
Both solutions make it so you cant be cheap, and go back to town to heal every time things start to get a little rough,
without completely ruining multi player.
There is talk of no town portals because there shouldn't be a cheap way to escape combat ,and go freshen up or whatever, granted, thats fine, but thats not an excuse to completely remove porting from the game.
If they do remove it from the game they should at least have it so you can port to players, with consent, kind of like a town portal, only a one way ticket.
another solution would be to keep town portals, and either 1: make it have a slow cast time or do this little bit.
*player attempts to cast town portal to escape combat ,and go heal*
Computer: " You can not cast town portal when there are enemies near by"
Both solutions make it so you cant be cheap, and go back to town to heal every time things start to get a little rough,
without completely ruining multi player.
Update- Using townportals in D2 was NOT a cheap way of getting out. It was just one of the many aspects of normal gameplay.
Otherwise you could say- Using mana potions is a cheap way of keeping you casting these nasty spells...or using rejuvenation potions is a cheap way of filling up your life globe.
Or you could always say using this heavy-damage 2 handed giant axe is a cheap way of killing monsters- you should use a dagger instead.
D3 is a new game. I'll miss townportals but this will offer a new take on gameplay. As to whether it is an improvement or not remains to be seen.
There is talk of no town portals because there shouldn't be a cheap way to escape combat ,and go freshen up or whatever, granted, thats fine, but thats not an excuse to completely remove porting from the game.
If they do remove it from the game they should at least have it so you can port to players, with consent, kind of like a town portal, only a one way ticket.
another solution would be to keep town portals, and either 1: make it have a slow cast time or do this little bit.
*player attempts to cast town portal to escape combat ,and go heal*
Computer: " You can not cast town portal when there are enemies near by"
Both solutions make it so you cant be cheap, and go back to town to heal every time things start to get a little rough,
without completely ruining multi player.
Update- Using townportals in D2 was NOT a cheap way of getting out. It was just one of the many aspects of normal gameplay.
Otherwise you could say- Using mana potions is a cheap way of keeping you casting these nasty spells...or using rejuvenation potions is a cheap way of filling up your life globe.
Or you could always say using this heavy-damage 2 handed giant axe is a cheap way of killing monsters- you should use a dagger instead.
Yes it was. Use health potion is also a cheap way to became a semi-imortal hero.
Obviously the axe exemple don't fit since the axe alone does not allows your character to do ridicolous stuff like scape from a boss fight to fully recover HP/MP.
And it already stated that you can automatically teleport to the party members when you join a game and they are in the middle of a dungeon.
Yes it was. Use health potion is also a cheap way to became a semi-imortal hero.
Obviously the axe exemple don't fit since the axe alone does not allows your character to do ridicolous stuff like scape from a boss fight to fully recover HP/MP.
I totally agree with you dude. D2 was such a failure of a game- why, barely anybody played the game- full of cheap shit I tell you.
God knows why they are bothering to make a sequel at all...
Oh well, I guess there are less cheap shit in this one. So maybe people will like it.
Bring in the trolls and haters. We got some candy for them.
Really dude? What? What? What? What?
Yo Air, give out all the candy you want, but don't touch the fucking cookies. These are mine.
Anyway putting things in perspective-
Assuming health, mana or rejuv were a cheap way out. And then adding TPs to that.
I mean what the fuck? I was beginning to wonder whether Italofoca played D2 at all or if he was actually talking about a different game...
I mean dang, if you want to be so hardcore, diablo isn't a game for you. Go play chess or I don't know- monopoly maybe.
Bring in the trolls and haters. We got some candy for them.
Really dude? What? What? What? What?
Yo Air, give out all the candy you want, but don't touch the fucking cookies. These are mine.
Anyway putting things in perspective-
Assuming health, mana or rejuv were a cheap way out. And then adding TPs to that.
I mean what the fuck? I was beginning to wonder whether Italofoca played D2 at all or if he was actually talking about a different game...
I mean dang, if you want to be so hardcore, diablo isn't a game for you. Go play chess or I don't know- monopoly maybe.
Just because i'm a fan it doesn't make me a blind fanboy who worship the damn game. Yes, D2 are FULL of cheap stuff, and the D3 tema know that, thats why they are removing those crap out of the game.
Like any game, D2 have it's good and bad features. Potions and TPs are among the bad ones.
Just because i'm a fan it doesn't make me a blind fanboy who worship the damn game. Yes, D2 are FULL of cheap stuff, and the D3 tema know that, thats why they are removing those crap out of the game.
Like any game, D2 have it's good and bad features. Potions and TPs are among the bad ones.
Dude, now that makes you look so freaking stupid.
So you are a FAN of a game SO FULL of cheap stuffs?
Please spare me.
Not using TPs and potions can significantly up the challenge, I'll give you that. But they are a part of the game. People have found other ways to increase the challenge- like using shitty gear to beat hell and such stuff. Unconventional builds...etc..etc.
Doesn't so much mean that a person using decent gear is taking the cheap way out. They are enjoying the game how they wish.
D3 is a new game. Yes I had to say that again in case you are thinking it is an improved D2 that is going to come out.
Dude, now that makes you look so freaking stupid.
So you are a FAN of a game SO FULL of cheap stuffs?
Please spare me.
Not using TPs and potions can significantly up the challenge, I'll give you that. But they are a part of the game. People have found other ways to increase the challenge- like using shitty gear to beat hell and such stuff. Unconventional builds...etc..etc.
Doesn't so much mean that a person using decent gear is taking the cheap way out. They are enjoying the game how they wish.
D3 is a new game. Yes I had to say that again in case you are thinking it is an improved D2 that is going to come out.
Sigh. Potions and TPs are part of the game but that doesn't make them less of a bad or "cheap" feature. And I love D2 too, so what, I love a game with cheap stuff. What the fuck kind of argument is that? TPs can abused to hell, you can keep coming back to the same boss a thousand times to kill him if you need to, you can go back to town and get healed/fill up those precious potions fast. Potions ruins the concept of actually having a -resource- in combat (mana). I'm not getting into the health potions.
Now I have no idea why the fuck moderators don't take care of the stupid trolls like you, I got banned for less before. Just show some respect or shut the hell up, so we can actually get a decent discussion when there is ever one available around here.
Sigh. Potions and TPs are part of the game but that doesn't make them less of a bad or "cheap" feature. And I love D2 too, so what, I love a game with cheap stuff. What the fuck kind of argument is that? TPs can abused to hell, you can keep coming back to the same boss a thousand times to kill him if you need to, you can go back to town and get healed/fill up those precious potions fast. Potions ruins the concept of actually having a -resource- in combat (mana). I'm not getting into the health potions.
Now I have no idea why the fuck moderators don't take care of the stupid trolls like you, I got banned for less before. Just show some respect or shut the hell up, so we can actually get a decent discussion when there is ever one available around here.
This is soooooo touching darling.
If you love a game with so many cheap stuffs, what does that say about your tastes, huh?
Let's leave that aside, shall we? Let's get some constructive argument going, so you don't have to act like a complete jackass when you never been addressed.
They are part of the game. They are used regularly. And nobody has talked of a patch about fixing that. I don't know if there are mods where TPs and potions do not exist...
So basically what you and some gamers want to say- oh man, we are so good we don't need TPs and potions. Look at all those noobs using TPs and potions.
Get real dumbass.
I thought the biggest reason was actually the "Oh crap I died and forgot to put up a TP near" kinda thing. So you keep spamming TPs just as a backup, or else deal with a very long run. Respawning at checkpoints means you don't have to worry about that.
Sigh. Potions and TPs are part of the game but that doesn't make them less of a bad or "cheap" feature. And I love D2 too, so what, I love a game with cheap stuff. What the fuck kind of argument is that? TPs can abused to hell, you can keep coming back to the same boss a thousand times to kill him if you need to, you can go back to town and get healed/fill up those precious potions fast. Potions ruins the concept of actually having a -resource- in combat (mana). I'm not getting into the health potions.
Now I have no idea why the fuck moderators don't take care of the stupid trolls like you, I got banned for less before. Just show some respect or shut the hell up, so we can actually get a decent discussion when there is ever one available around here.
This is soooooo touching darling.
If you love a game with so many cheap stuffs, what does that say about your tastes, huh?
Let's leave that aside, shall we? Let's get some constructive argument going, so you don't have to act like a complete jackass when you never been addressed.
They are part of the game. They are used regularly. And nobody has talked of a patch about fixing that. I don't know if there are mods where TPs and potions do not exist...
So basically what you and some gamers want to say- oh man, we are so good we don't need TPs and potions. Look at all those noobs using TPs and potions.
Get real dumbass.
You got this totally wrong. The way D2 is made it's impossible to be played w/o potions and really boring to be played w/o tps. It doesn't change the fact that the way blizz build those systems in D2 are bad.
To remove that from the game, every little thing would have to be rebalanced. From monsters, to skills, everything would need a change. They can't even balance some dozen of skills in a patch, imagine recreat the whole game mech.
It doesn't change the fact that return to town in the middle of a boss fight is cheap. It breaks the mod and eliminates the need to evade the bosses's attack (since the most efificent way to killa a boss is just jump him, don't loose time avoiding his attacks and use pots when needed).
It doesn't change the fact that the way blizz build those systems in D2 are bad.
To remove that from the game, every little thing would have to be rebalanced. From monsters, to skills, everything would need a change. They can't even balance some dozen of skills in a patch, imagine recreat the whole game mech.
This is the thing really. You think it's bad. I don't think it is. It IS the game. The very fact that you can limit their use or stop spamming them is what takes you apart as a gamer. TPs can represent strategy retreat or save a really long way to trek back to where you died if it's in a spot far from a waypoint. It is an integral part of the game. And the hilarious thing is that Diablo is basically a game of spamming your best skills with some strategy. Why can't you take potions and TPs in the same stride?
It doesn't change the fact that return to town in the middle of a boss fight is cheap. It breaks the mod and eliminates the need to evade the bosses's attack (since the most efificent way to killa a boss is just jump him, don't loose time avoiding his attacks and use pots when needed).
This is how the game is. Does it mean you view the whole game as cheap then? You could voluntarily not carry TPs and potions...but like you said it's not practical. And like I said it's part of the game. And if you are a fan, it means you enjoyed the game and I am sure you used these features- which makes the TPs and potions issue just plain and simple whining from you and not the facts that you are pretending them to be.
Edit- And also have you tried to jump a boss on hell with players 8 on? Trust me- even full rejuvs won't cut it out!!!
Sigh. Potions and TPs are part of the game but that doesn't make them less of a bad or "cheap" feature. And I love D2 too, so what, I love a game with cheap stuff. What the fuck kind of argument is that? TPs can abused to hell, you can keep coming back to the same boss a thousand times to kill him if you need to, you can go back to town and get healed/fill up those precious potions fast. Potions ruins the concept of actually having a -resource- in combat (mana). I'm not getting into the health potions.
Now I have no idea why the fuck moderators don't take care of the stupid trolls like you, I got banned for less before. Just show some respect or shut the hell up, so we can actually get a decent discussion when there is ever one available around here.
This is soooooo touching darling.
If you love a game with so many cheap stuffs, what does that say about your tastes, huh?
Let's leave that aside, shall we? Let's get some constructive argument going, so you don't have to act like a complete jackass when you never been addressed.
They are part of the game. They are used regularly. And nobody has talked of a patch about fixing that. I don't know if there are mods where TPs and potions do not exist...
So basically what you and some gamers want to say- oh man, we are so good we don't need TPs and potions. Look at all those noobs using TPs and potions.
Get real dumbass.
Huh. Alright. Sorry, I had no idea how low you could go with your words. You also put quite a few words into my mouth. Also, your shit is addressed to whomever read this. This is a public forum, not some private 1on1 place where you can throw any words at someone and no one will know.
Whats hard about respect you don't understand? And yes, I'm speaking about respect, -and- I'm not showing any to you, because of you're acting, because you don't deserve any from that. If I deserve respect or not from you at this point either... I probably don't and I don't care, but seriously, what the hell is your problem? The moment ital answered you, you acted like a dick. Thats all I saw. Why? I don't think you're unaware of what respect is, but you're not showing any.
So politely or not, lets get on with what you said... "They are part of the game. They are used regularly. And nobody has talked of a patch about fixing that." You're right. That has nothing to do with how cheap they are. I live with the cheap elements because there's so much more to this game than that, and its not so bad, but I do wish these things were different. Thats the kind of reasons why this game is not PERFECT, but I can still love the whole thing.
So my "tastes" are fine, thank you. Lastly, "Look at all those noobs using TPs and potions"... Did I ever say anything like that? Did anyone here did? Thats the "putting words into my mouth" part. You're exaggerating. Its cheap, etc, etc, no one said its not part of the game, and no one said I consider people using it "lame" or "stupid" or "noobs".
I do try sometimes to play without them, because thats a thing I do (mostly without potions).. I do it for myself, for my own fun, because I like it... and yes, completing the game like that is pretty much impossible... so where your other arguments came from, I have no idea.
And by the way, you're obviously in front of someone with an attitude problem (me), and you're obviously showing one, too. I'm standing on my point that you shouldn't be already on the "offensive crap and semi-insulting" attitude or whatever, when there's no need for it.
Sigh. Potions and TPs are part of the game but that doesn't make them less of a bad or "cheap" feature. And I love D2 too, so what, I love a game with cheap stuff. What the fuck kind of argument is that? TPs can abused to hell, you can keep coming back to the same boss a thousand times to kill him if you need to, you can go back to town and get healed/fill up those precious potions fast. Potions ruins the concept of actually having a -resource- in combat (mana). I'm not getting into the health potions.
Now I have no idea why the fuck moderators don't take care of the stupid trolls like you, I got banned for less before. Just show some respect or shut the hell up, so we can actually get a decent discussion when there is ever one available around here.
This is soooooo touching darling.
If you love a game with so many cheap stuffs, what does that say about your tastes, huh?
Let's leave that aside, shall we? Let's get some constructive argument going, so you don't have to act like a complete jackass when you never been addressed.
They are part of the game. They are used regularly. And nobody has talked of a patch about fixing that. I don't know if there are mods where TPs and potions do not exist...
So basically what you and some gamers want to say- oh man, we are so good we don't need TPs and potions. Look at all those noobs using TPs and potions.
Get real dumbass.
Huh. Alright. Sorry, I had no idea how low you could go with your words. You also put quite a few words into my mouth. Also, your shit is addressed to whomever read this. This is a public forum, not some private 1on1 place where you can throw any words at someone and no one will know.
Whats hard about respect you don't understand? And yes, I'm speaking about respect, -and- I'm not showing any to you, because of you're acting, because you don't deserve any from that. If I deserve respect or not from you at this point either... I probably don't and I don't care, but seriously, what the hell is your problem? The moment ital answered you, you acted like a dick. Thats all I saw. Why? I don't think you're unaware of what respect is, but you're not showing any.
So politely or not, lets get on with what you said... "They are part of the game. They are used regularly. And nobody has talked of a patch about fixing that." You're right. That has nothing to do with how cheap they are. I live with the cheap elements because there's so much more to this game than that, and its not so bad, but I do wish these things were different. Thats the kind of reasons why this game is not PERFECT, but I can still love the whole thing.
So my "tastes" are fine, thank you. Lastly, "Look at all those noobs using TPs and potions"... Did I ever say anything like that? Did anyone here did? Thats the "putting words into my mouth" part. You're exaggerating. Its cheap, etc, etc, no one said its not part of the game, and no one said I consider people using it "lame" or "stupid" or "noobs".
I do try sometimes to play without them, because thats a thing I do (mostly without potions).. I do it for myself, for my own fun, because I like it... and yes, completing the game like that is pretty much impossible... so where your other arguments came from, I have no idea.
And by the way, you're obviously in front of someone with an attitude problem (me), and you're obviously showing one, too. I'm standing on my point that you shouldn't be already on the "offensive crap and semi-insulting" attitude or whatever, when there's no need for it.
You actually deleted the profile comment I left for you. Lol!
Can't handle truth and honesty no more?
Grow up kid and when you get some time, try to see if you can manage to understand what the word is respect is about.
You got an attitude problem and you want to put me in the same boat as you because I can actually reply to you? I guess you are not used to it. Ya other people can be pretty honest and straightforward too, you know.
You are too used to whining. Please don't cry.
not only that he was ridiculing a game that he him self played and liked and i believe at the time it was released it was a BIG GAME and its still a BIG GAME today. ya it dosent have millions of plp playing it like wow. and yes not as many plp played it as they still do with SC but it was a very good game over all. and look at it this way... i may of hade a full belt of full rejuvs and a whole tome of tps but there was times that both dident matter i still died or got pwned ect ect. also think of it this way would you played d2 as much as we all did and still do to this day if you had to spend a hour looking for a boss finally find it then die? and then have to run ALL THE WAY BACK and even then maybe die before u get ur body? then spend even more time trying to keep going? NOOO yuo wouldent i love diablo but i know for a fact if i would have to spend half the time as i would like in wow... im sry it wouldent be AS GOOD as I THINK IT STILL IS. to this day still any game i play i compare to D2( replayablilty, pull of intrest,ect ect) and i know alot of people that do the same. Im not saying OO WELL COUNTER STRIKE IS NOTHING LIKE D2 SO IM NOT GONNA PLAY IT. (I play cs btw love it) No i go o god wow is so much more layed back then d2 you have to wait to be 80 to play the game fore REAL(atleast thats wut everyone tells me after i get to like 60... OOO YOU DIDENT GET TO 80 thats where the real game starts) NO. In d2 you could play ALMOST every aspect of the game from lvl 1 to lvl 99(obvisually lvl 99 is funner then 1). but still it has pull of intrest on top of that they dident design the game all around spending all ur time AND money just to have a little fun at end game....I mean wow was fun the BGS (battlegrounds) and the raids where fun but.... agin u had to be a lvl of importance not only to have fun but to matter to other plp.
sry for long post and missed spelled i just came back from work dont feel like editing LOL
You actually deleted the profile comment I left for you. Lol!
Can't handle truth and honesty no more?
Grow up kid and when you get some time, try to see if you can manage to understand what the word is respect is about.
You got an attitude problem and you want to put me in the same boat as you because I can actually reply to you? I guess you are not used to it. Ya other people can be pretty honest and straightforward too, you know.
You are too used to whining. Please don't cry.
Oh geeze, yes I deleted an insulting profile comment because thats suited for a PM, I don't exactly want to see your ass there with a post as such in there. Its like putting a poster up on the wall to tell a guy what you think of him.
Anyway, whatever man. Calling me kids, still keeping up the attitude. I'm all fine with everyone else being honest and straightforward, thats what I want. All I see is one guy somehow trying to stand up for god knows what, pretending he knows more than others, pretending you know respect and I don't. I don't remember saying you didn't know what respect was either. All I can see is pretension.
And it already stated that you can automatically teleport to the party members when you join a game and they are in the middle of a dungeon.
Wow guys, didnt mean to start such a ruckus, I googled Diablo 3 town portals to find out about this before I posted, and all I find was an old forum with no conclusions, so sorry for not knowing about the porting to players thing,
Wow you guys, doesnt it say we are supposed to talk to each other with respect and all that when we join this forum? or was that a different forum?
and im just assuming there are way points, but im not touching that ^.^
Oh geeze, yes I deleted an insulting profile comment because thats suited for a PM, I don't exactly want to see your ass there with a post as such in there. Its like putting a poster up on the wall to tell a guy what you think of him.
Anyway, whatever man. Calling me kids, still keeping up the attitude. I'm all fine with everyone else being honest and straightforward, thats what I want. All I see is one guy somehow trying to stand up for god knows what, pretending he knows more than others, pretending you know respect and I don't. I don't remember saying you didn't know what respect was either. All I can see is pretension.
And sorry for all that off topicness to the TC.
Let me get a few things straight with you Jake boy. Pretension? Really? Am I the troll hiding behind the words truth and honesty? I don't think so- you are.
And oh yes, we are both pretty much forum trolls. Imagine my surprise when you wanted to play the knight in shining armor for your mate. And even bigger surprise when you went all martyr-like with comments like me getting low with my words and talking about respect...
Seriously, you got banned before? I wonder why? Oh I'll probably get banned for this but I thought you need to wake up from your dream, in which you think- I got an attitude and I am honest. You are simply rude and obscene...just like me.
Welcome to the Troll Community, brother and next time do not bring shame on us by whining so much. Makes us look bad.
Yes it's getting off-topic. But I was all for keeping it on-topic until you jumped in and refused one of my attempt to keep the matter private. The comment suited you. Insulting? Lol. You are one conceited little bastard who thinks only his words are true or honest.
Now for some old tradition trolling so as to set you on the right path and you can aspire to become a better troll-
I'll stop posting here. Let's come to an agreement brother. Let peace and love triumph. Give me your address and post code. Oh wait....no no am no pedophile. Am a good guy.
As soon as you hit your 12th birthday, I'll send you an English dictionary. There you'll learn the meaning of all complicated words like respect and such. This way you'll grow up to become a decent guy and I'll take pride in making you a decent man.
*Sheds tear of joy at his own benevolence*
Well, I'd just be glad if thats over because I'm quite tired of this. Maybe I'm just stupid, but I really don't get you anymore. Doesn't really matter. I might just hold my breath next time I see you throw something rude at someone, just so I don't get in a discussion like that again. Its too much for my young brain, you see.
Sorry I just found out about this, and there is an OLD OLD threat talking about it so I decided to update.
There is talk of no town portals because there shouldn't be a cheap way to escape combat ,and go freshen up or whatever, granted, thats fine, but thats not an excuse to completely remove porting from the game.
If they do remove it from the game they should at least have it so you can port to players, with consent, kind of like a town portal, only a one way ticket.
another solution would be to keep town portals, and either 1: make it have a slow cast time or do this little bit.
*player attempts to cast town portal to escape combat ,and go heal*
Computer: " You can not cast town portal when there are enemies near by"
Both solutions make it so you cant be cheap, and go back to town to heal every time things start to get a little rough,
without completely ruining multi player.
Update- Using townportals in D2 was NOT a cheap way of getting out. It was just one of the many aspects of normal gameplay.
Otherwise you could say- Using mana potions is a cheap way of keeping you casting these nasty spells...or using rejuvenation potions is a cheap way of filling up your life globe.
Or you could always say using this heavy-damage 2 handed giant axe is a cheap way of killing monsters- you should use a dagger instead.
D3 is a new game. I'll miss townportals but this will offer a new take on gameplay. As to whether it is an improvement or not remains to be seen.
Yes it was. Use health potion is also a cheap way to became a semi-imortal hero.
Obviously the axe exemple don't fit since the axe alone does not allows your character to do ridicolous stuff like scape from a boss fight to fully recover HP/MP.
And it already stated that you can automatically teleport to the party members when you join a game and they are in the middle of a dungeon.
I totally agree with you dude. D2 was such a failure of a game- why, barely anybody played the game- full of cheap shit I tell you.
God knows why they are bothering to make a sequel at all...
Oh well, I guess there are less cheap shit in this one. So maybe people will like it.
Yo Air, give out all the candy you want, but don't touch the fucking cookies. These are mine.
Anyway putting things in perspective-
Assuming health, mana or rejuv were a cheap way out. And then adding TPs to that.
I mean what the fuck? I was beginning to wonder whether Italofoca played D2 at all or if he was actually talking about a different game...
I mean dang, if you want to be so hardcore, diablo isn't a game for you. Go play chess or I don't know- monopoly maybe.
Just because i'm a fan it doesn't make me a blind fanboy who worship the damn game. Yes, D2 are FULL of cheap stuff, and the D3 tema know that, thats why they are removing those crap out of the game.
Like any game, D2 have it's good and bad features. Potions and TPs are among the bad ones.
Dude, now that makes you look so freaking stupid.
So you are a FAN of a game SO FULL of cheap stuffs?
Please spare me.
Not using TPs and potions can significantly up the challenge, I'll give you that. But they are a part of the game. People have found other ways to increase the challenge- like using shitty gear to beat hell and such stuff. Unconventional builds...etc..etc.
Doesn't so much mean that a person using decent gear is taking the cheap way out. They are enjoying the game how they wish.
D3 is a new game. Yes I had to say that again in case you are thinking it is an improved D2 that is going to come out.
Now I have no idea why the fuck moderators don't take care of the stupid trolls like you, I got banned for less before. Just show some respect or shut the hell up, so we can actually get a decent discussion when there is ever one available around here.
This is soooooo touching darling.
If you love a game with so many cheap stuffs, what does that say about your tastes, huh?
Let's leave that aside, shall we? Let's get some constructive argument going, so you don't have to act like a complete jackass when you never been addressed.
They are part of the game. They are used regularly. And nobody has talked of a patch about fixing that. I don't know if there are mods where TPs and potions do not exist...
So basically what you and some gamers want to say- oh man, we are so good we don't need TPs and potions. Look at all those noobs using TPs and potions.
Get real dumbass.
You got this totally wrong. The way D2 is made it's impossible to be played w/o potions and really boring to be played w/o tps. It doesn't change the fact that the way blizz build those systems in D2 are bad.
To remove that from the game, every little thing would have to be rebalanced. From monsters, to skills, everything would need a change. They can't even balance some dozen of skills in a patch, imagine recreat the whole game mech.
It doesn't change the fact that return to town in the middle of a boss fight is cheap. It breaks the mod and eliminates the need to evade the bosses's attack (since the most efificent way to killa a boss is just jump him, don't loose time avoiding his attacks and use pots when needed).
This is the thing really. You think it's bad. I don't think it is. It IS the game. The very fact that you can limit their use or stop spamming them is what takes you apart as a gamer. TPs can represent strategy retreat or save a really long way to trek back to where you died if it's in a spot far from a waypoint. It is an integral part of the game. And the hilarious thing is that Diablo is basically a game of spamming your best skills with some strategy. Why can't you take potions and TPs in the same stride?
This is how the game is. Does it mean you view the whole game as cheap then? You could voluntarily not carry TPs and potions...but like you said it's not practical. And like I said it's part of the game. And if you are a fan, it means you enjoyed the game and I am sure you used these features- which makes the TPs and potions issue just plain and simple whining from you and not the facts that you are pretending them to be.
Edit- And also have you tried to jump a boss on hell with players 8 on? Trust me- even full rejuvs won't cut it out!!!
Huh. Alright. Sorry, I had no idea how low you could go with your words. You also put quite a few words into my mouth. Also, your shit is addressed to whomever read this. This is a public forum, not some private 1on1 place where you can throw any words at someone and no one will know.
Whats hard about respect you don't understand? And yes, I'm speaking about respect, -and- I'm not showing any to you, because of you're acting, because you don't deserve any from that. If I deserve respect or not from you at this point either... I probably don't and I don't care, but seriously, what the hell is your problem? The moment ital answered you, you acted like a dick. Thats all I saw. Why? I don't think you're unaware of what respect is, but you're not showing any.
So politely or not, lets get on with what you said... "They are part of the game. They are used regularly. And nobody has talked of a patch about fixing that." You're right. That has nothing to do with how cheap they are. I live with the cheap elements because there's so much more to this game than that, and its not so bad, but I do wish these things were different. Thats the kind of reasons why this game is not PERFECT, but I can still love the whole thing.
So my "tastes" are fine, thank you. Lastly, "Look at all those noobs using TPs and potions"... Did I ever say anything like that? Did anyone here did? Thats the "putting words into my mouth" part. You're exaggerating. Its cheap, etc, etc, no one said its not part of the game, and no one said I consider people using it "lame" or "stupid" or "noobs".
I do try sometimes to play without them, because thats a thing I do (mostly without potions).. I do it for myself, for my own fun, because I like it... and yes, completing the game like that is pretty much impossible... so where your other arguments came from, I have no idea.
And by the way, you're obviously in front of someone with an attitude problem (me), and you're obviously showing one, too. I'm standing on my point that you shouldn't be already on the "offensive crap and semi-insulting" attitude or whatever, when there's no need for it.
You actually deleted the profile comment I left for you. Lol!
Can't handle truth and honesty no more?
Grow up kid and when you get some time, try to see if you can manage to understand what the word is respect is about.
You got an attitude problem and you want to put me in the same boat as you because I can actually reply to you? I guess you are not used to it. Ya other people can be pretty honest and straightforward too, you know.
You are too used to whining. Please don't cry.
sry for long post and missed spelled i just came back from work dont feel like editing LOL
~Mike~
Oh geeze, yes I deleted an insulting profile comment because thats suited for a PM, I don't exactly want to see your ass there with a post as such in there. Its like putting a poster up on the wall to tell a guy what you think of him.
Anyway, whatever man. Calling me kids, still keeping up the attitude. I'm all fine with everyone else being honest and straightforward, thats what I want. All I see is one guy somehow trying to stand up for god knows what, pretending he knows more than others, pretending you know respect and I don't. I don't remember saying you didn't know what respect was either. All I can see is pretension.
And sorry for all that off topicness to the TC.
Wow guys, didnt mean to start such a ruckus, I googled Diablo 3 town portals to find out about this before I posted, and all I find was an old forum with no conclusions, so sorry for not knowing about the porting to players thing,
Wow you guys, doesnt it say we are supposed to talk to each other with respect and all that when we join this forum? or was that a different forum?
and im just assuming there are way points, but im not touching that ^.^
Let me get a few things straight with you Jake boy. Pretension? Really? Am I the troll hiding behind the words truth and honesty? I don't think so- you are.
And oh yes, we are both pretty much forum trolls. Imagine my surprise when you wanted to play the knight in shining armor for your mate. And even bigger surprise when you went all martyr-like with comments like me getting low with my words and talking about respect...
Seriously, you got banned before? I wonder why? Oh I'll probably get banned for this but I thought you need to wake up from your dream, in which you think- I got an attitude and I am honest. You are simply rude and obscene...just like me.
Welcome to the Troll Community, brother and next time do not bring shame on us by whining so much. Makes us look bad.
Yes it's getting off-topic. But I was all for keeping it on-topic until you jumped in and refused one of my attempt to keep the matter private. The comment suited you. Insulting? Lol. You are one conceited little bastard who thinks only his words are true or honest.
Now for some old tradition trolling so as to set you on the right path and you can aspire to become a better troll-
I'll stop posting here. Let's come to an agreement brother. Let peace and love triumph. Give me your address and post code. Oh wait....no no am no pedophile. Am a good guy.
As soon as you hit your 12th birthday, I'll send you an English dictionary. There you'll learn the meaning of all complicated words like respect and such. This way you'll grow up to become a decent guy and I'll take pride in making you a decent man.
*Sheds tear of joy at his own benevolence*