[2.4] GR87+ Invoker Punish
Skills
Items
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Head
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Crown of the Invoker
- Stat Priority: Str Vit AR Socket
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Shoulders
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Burden of the Invoker
- Stat Priority: Str Vit AR CDR
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Amulet
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The Traveler's Pledge
- Stat Priority: Physical % Str Vit Socket
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Torso
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Aquila Cuirass
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Heart of Iron
- Stat Priority: Str Vit AR Socket
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Wrists
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Shackles of the Invoker
- Stat Priority: Physical % Str Vit LOH
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Hands
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Pride of the Invoker
- Stat Priority: Str Vit AS
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Waist
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Belt of the Trove
- Stat Priority: Str Vit AR Thorns
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Legs
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Renewal of the Invoker
- Stat Priority: Str Vit AR Socket
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Feet
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Zeal of the Invoker
- Stat Priority: Str Vit AR LPS
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Rings
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Justice Lantern
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The Compass Rose
- Stat Priority: Str Vit AS CDR
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Weapon
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Pig Sticker
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Doombringer
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Hack
- Stat Priority: Str AS CDR AD
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Offhand
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Akarat's Awakening
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Vo'Toyias Spiker
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Lidless Wall
- Stat Priority: Str AD
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Legendary Gems
Kanai's Cube
*This build is BASED on Thorns, so you want as much THORNS DAMAGE as possible!,
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Good Information about HOW THORNS WORKS:
- Link: https://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo3Crusaders/comments/41psfg/invoker_interactions/
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There is multiple good setups for Weapon/Shield, I'd recommend:
a) T10: DB + LW or AA
Solo Push: PS + AA
c) Grift Speeds: DB + AA
d) Grift Push: PS + VS or AA
* Having correct stats is the most important thing! So if your LW is perfectly rolled and ur AA is junk, then use ur LW.
** LW = Lidless Wall (shield) --- BTW a tip for all, if you need a better Lidless Wall, then craft it on a barbarian. Your 8 times more likely to get a Lidless Wall on a barbarian from blood shards and upgrading rares to legendaries with Death Breaths than on a crusader.
** DB = DoomBringer (weapon)
** PS = Pig Sticker (weapon)
** AA = Akarats Awakening (shield)
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SKILL ROTATION: Law/Prophet > Iron Skin (Phys CoE) > Consecration > Punish
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Great Tips / Suggestions for the build:
1. Use Iron Skin and Consecration / Bombardment when you have +200 % Physical dmg from CoE.
2. In order for Belt of Trove to use "Barrels of Spikes" rune you must have Bombardment equipped.
3. Most important part of Belt of Trove, is to keep up the 50 % DMG Reduction from (4) set bonus.
4. ... (make comment if u got suggestions)
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Needs to be Tested (feel free to help test):
A) Sanguinary vambracers if they work with (2) piece invokers
B') Hack, if it works multipliactive with strg and how much % dmg increase it is
C) Omnislash belt, see if it makes Punish deal AOE dmg. Maybe even procs Hack.
D) Slash, use rune Zeal. Reaching 3 attack per second, might work with Hack!
E) Voy'Toyias Spiker, See if it works multipli- or additive. Works with skills or not? Better than arats awakening?
F) Iron Skin, if you use it before Consecration, does it work for 4 seconds or all 10 seconds?
G) Snapshot, is Iron Skin / Thorns dynamic or static?
H) Blood Brother vs. The Mortal Drama, which one is the best?
I) Block cap? Do we go way above block cap with Blood Brother?
H) ... (make comment if u got suggestions)
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To See MORE DETAILED Item-Stats: http://www.d3planner.com/641665986
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Paragon Priorities
Movement Speed |
Primary Stat |
Vitality |
Maximum Resource |
Cooldown Reduction |
Attack Speed |
Critical Hit Chance |
Critical Hit Damage |
Resist All |
Armor |
Life Regeneration |
Life |
Life on Hit |
Area Damage |
Gold Find |
Resource Cost Reduction |
Here is how the game-play of an Invoker Punish Crusader looks like:
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Equipped Hack+VS+Provoke/Block rune in the build with Slash as generator and cubed Omnislash/Equipped Aquila Cuirass.
What are the ups and downs of this?
EDIT: Cubed AA instead of Blood Brother.
EDIT2: isn't also better to cube HoI instead of Aquila to get guaranteed max affix? Afaik all chests can roll thorns, or HoI gets an higher amount?
Torn damage doesn't crit, so no needed for chc/chd, Pig sticker has a faster swing than anything else in game if I remember correctly.
I did a grift 60 no problem with this build, so far - gonna try and push higher tomorrow...I still use bombardment > akarats champ (not sure if that's right) AND I still don't have a blood brother, so I have mortal drama cubed. Once I get BB, i'll try it and switch bombardment back to akarats champ and see if I notice a difference. I don't even have a great rolled Travelers Pledge - no phys dmg %.
here's a link to my toon right now: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/justjoddat-1946/hero/71065486
edit: the only thing I'm not sure about, is should we have rubies or diamonds in our gear?
That's true, better to jump to Punish after AA drop, but big + of Slash has a nice aoe dmg which is nice to T10 rifts farming
My Season Crusader - do you have any tips what should I change, should I change to Pig Sticker anyway if I don't have ancient version?
Hey guys
(sorry for my English :((( )
Just quick question
IAS is capped at 32% right? so if i have 32% with PS@1.5 should i roll ias on it anyway or just keep like that and roll whatever i need?
So With heart of iron, should I be putting my paragon points into vit or should I stick with strength?
So... AD on this build is a waste?
It's not. Thorns scale on strength.
In my opnion (maybe im wrong), with AA you can drop some cdr to increase something else, life atk spd or ad (if it work)
i have the hellfire neck that gives me the fanaticism passive would it be better to trade out the hellfire neck for the rose set neck and ring or stick with the hellfire? also is it worth to trade off aoe dmg for a socket on a weapon for the thorns gem
C'mon... no one knows for sure if area dmg works with thorns? i dont wanna to waste my consumable on a wrong item...
Physical damage %:
Increases the damage dealt by thorns reflection based on an incoming melee attack, consecrate, bombardment,
steed charge and the base damage of punish or slash.
It does not increase the damage dealt by the Invoker 6pc bonus regardless of the elemental rune of the base attack.
But, with phys CoE the dmg from 6p punish gain a huge dmg gain, so, i dont know if it's right..
two questions here:
1- what happens if you cube Fate of the Fell (+2 heavens fury) and go for Ivory Tower, now we have a holy shotgun thornsader?
2- Is Ivory Tower's heavens fury shotgun affected by the Hack's 100% thorn damage applied on attacks?
I tried many things yesterday and blood brother is really depended on the build you can without it but your survivability will go down what i have experienced also going above the 75% block i am currently at 85% i am bad a calculating but so far i know i can survive higher greater rifts with ease though. Important to have much CDR on your gear for more survival overall.
What about Coven's Criterion? Seeing it offers a cubed 60% dmg reduction from blocking would be a better alternative than Blood Brother from a defensive perspective.
Switched my neck and bracers out of physical damage and actually saw a DPS increase with Vit on neck because of HoI.
So apparently phys dmg% does not apply to the 6pc bonus of the set hence it doesn't actually provide much to our overall dps. CoE is a different standalone multiplier so it's completely possible that it works differently form other ones (thus works with thorns). Actually i believe CoE and Iron Skin are on the same multiplier category while phys dmg% is not due to how i see stuff working right now.
Blood Brother seems to be less effective than predicted - survivability wise it's still good, but the damage buff doesn't actually work with the 6pc (and apparently also 2pc) set bonus.
So, we still need to check about Hack vs BB in cube (though i think BB will win for high GR) and see if rerolling that phys dmg% into VIT for more thorns and having an additional free slot for stats like AS/AD is better.