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I thanked you for the Helltooth builds (at least I think I did?) and now I thank you again for this Jade build!

It feels great that we got Jade back and it's gonna be so fun to try it again. Helltooth was powerful but tbh it made me feel more like a fire mage than a witch doctor. Jade is much closer to how I imagine WD must be in lore.

No pierce the veil? There's a mojo that increases locust damage (hence harvest damage) and your elements are all over the place. I feel like swampland attune lent would serve better than spirit vessel but that's just me. Physical setup will work well, you gain defence from locust and mana regen from haunt for PTV. Also you may want to try using OrotZ, it will just give you massive cool down reductions

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No pierce the veil? There's a mojo that increases locust damage (hence harvest damage) and your elements are all over the place. I feel like swampland attune lent would serve better than spirit vessel but that's just me. Physical setup will work well, you gain defence from locust and mana regen from haunt for PTV. Also you may want to try using OrotZ, it will just give you massive cool down reductions

PtV is additive damage, it's really not that much of a damage boost.
I talk about the choice of Henri's over Vile Hive in detail in the video, both are fine options. Locust Swarm isn't near as much of your damage as Haunt, so losing a 60% multiplier for Locust Swarm isn't THAT much of a damage loss, now obviously you also pick up some defense from the physical rune. Both Mojo's have pro's and cons. There were alot of people running both on the PTR, one in the cube and one on the character.

The elements aren't all over the place, it's just cold and poison. If you run the Vile hive you'd be running physical and either cold or poison, so it would be the same argument you just made. You can always run Poison Spirit to make the elements more uniform, which again, I talk about in the video.

OrotZ was tested quite a bit by ALOT of good Witch Doctor players on the PTR, and the 3 rings in this guide all outperformed it. Unless something changes, I don't plan to run it.

How does Haunting Girdle work with Resentful Spirits (haunt rune)?

Can all 3 spirits hit the same target

Can all 3 spirits get all the deadly bonuses from the Jade Harvester sets against a single target?

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No pierce the veil? There's a mojo that increases locust damage (hence harvest damage) and your elements are all over the place. I feel like swampland attune lent would serve better than spirit vessel but that's just me. Physical setup will work well, you gain defence from locust and mana regen from haunt for PTV. Also you may want to try using OrotZ, it will just give you massive cool down reductions

PtV is additive damage, it's really not that much of a damage boost.
I talk about the choice of Henri's over Vile Hive in detail in the video, both are fine options. Locust Swarm isn't near as much of your damage as Haunt, so losing a 60% multiplier for Locust Swarm isn't THAT much of a damage loss, now obviously you also pick up some defense from the physical rune. Both Mojo's have pro's and cons. There were alot of people running both on the PTR, one in the cube and one on the character.

The elements aren't all over the place, it's just cold and poison. If you run the Vile hive you'd be running physical and either cold or poison, so it would be the same argument you just made. You can always run Poison Spirit to make the elements more uniform, which again, I talk about in the video.

OrotZ was tested quite a bit by ALOT of good Witch Doctor players on the PTR, and the 3 rings in this guide all outperformed it. Unless something changes, I don't plan to run it.

Well you seem to know what you're talking about. I've only just started playing this patch (console) so I still have alot of testing to do. Additives and Multipliers <-- This stuff i can never wrap my head around so i tend to just strive for big numbers. I personally dont like Henri mojo for the simple fact of diminishing returns, id rather use something that stays just as strong in short and long battles. Im curious as to why you use Grave Injustice, is it just for Spirit Walk and Piranha cooldowns? I love the passive but in my experience it gets worse the higher the grift as you kill enemies too slowly for it to be useful when you need it. Im working on my own harvester which is a physical setup, my passives are creeping death/pierce the veil/swampland attunement/confidence ritual.
I should add that i didnt purposefully ignore any of your advice on your video i simply just tend to skip them and at the moment my hours have been used so im on dial-up speed.
Regardless I do like the build and ill be sure to keep it in mind for reference when im trying to figure out my own

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I thanked you for the Helltooth builds (at least I think I did?) and now I thank you again for this Jade build!

It feels great that we got Jade back and it's gonna be so fun to try it again. Helltooth was powerful but tbh it made me feel more like a fire mage than a witch doctor. Jade is much closer to how I imagine WD must be in lore.

Your'e welcome man.

Ive done some more testing with this build using vile hive (fire rune) and haunting gurdle (poison rune) and without PtV instead using Grave Injustice and yeah, it works, i just dont understand why :'( lol. Do you priorotize any element at all or replace bonus elemental damage? I wanted to try for a physical build because PtV is actually usable with Physical haunt rune but it seems to just be underpar. Found an epic Ancient bracer too but it has cold bonus and armor (no vit) so i am quietly contemplating just what it is i am supposed to do from here.

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Ive done some more testing with this build using vile hive (fire rune) and haunting gurdle (poison rune) and without PtV instead using Grave Injustice and yeah, it works, i just dont understand why :'( lol. Do you priorotize any element at all or replace bonus elemental damage? I wanted to try for a physical build because PtV is actually usable with Physical haunt rune but it seems to just be underpar. Found an epic Ancient bracer too but it has cold bonus and armor (no vit) so i am quietly contemplating just what it is i am supposed to do from here.

You always prioritize whatever your Haunt damage is.

Am I correct in assuming vile hive will add a decent amount of damage for a harvest? Fire rune performs amazing for damage, physical rune is amazing defensively. And I can't figure this out myself but do you need to reapply dots when using creeping death? If so how often?

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any clue about why this build aint played at all compared to 4p helltooth gargantua or LoN atm in WD ladder ?

damage and survivability (like -50% from helltooth 4p). You are naked until you cast SH, and you don't want to waste damage, so you need to put DoTs before harvest. And while putting dots you might be dead. In compare to helltooth, WoD - bam! -50% damage, nailed it.

Also, i think you are quite optimistic about 80+. It will require a lot more effort than helltoth (according to what i read on forums)

Thanks a bunch for this build.

This is actually my first time ever 'netdecking' in D3 and apparently it's super effective

Not pushing any high GRs for now, but I was barely surviving T7 before, now I just roflstomp it.

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any clue about why this build aint played at all compared to 4p helltooth gargantua or LoN atm in WD ladder ?

damage and survivability (like -50% from helltooth 4p). You are naked until you cast SH, and you don't want to waste damage, so you need to put DoTs before harvest. And while putting dots you might be dead. In compare to helltooth, WoD - bam! -50% damage, nailed it.

Also, i think you are quite optimistic about 80+. It will require a lot more effort than helltoth (according to what i read on forums)

Whether it requires more effort or not, it can do 80+

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Also, i think you are quite optimistic about 80+. It will require a lot more effort than helltoth (according to what i read on forums)

We choose to fight using the JD build, not because it is easy...but because it is hard!!

I'm digging all the Jade Harvester love in this patch.

I recently started running mine with ~35% CDR and Gogok gem for the extra 15%. Ran this in conjuntion with ORoZ and had a blast farming T10 spamming soul harvest and piranhados all over the place. Unfortunately that setup is useless for Grifts so I have to go back to this setup which works well for grifting, except I can't seem to push past 66. I can pretty much make it to the rift guardian with lots of time to spare, but get one shotted easily by certain specials, and end up running over the time limit. I have BoS, EA, and BoT as my gems, but I still struggle with single target DPS. Should I just stack +Haunt damage and hope for the best?

BTW thanks for your videos, they are informative and you're not a bore.

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I'm digging all the Jade Harvester love in this patch.

I recently started running mine with ~35% CDR and Gogok gem for the extra 15%. Ran this in conjuntion with ORoZ and had a blast farming T10 spamming soul harvest and piranhados all over the place. Unfortunately that setup is useless for Grifts so I have to go back to this setup which works well for grifting, except I can't seem to push past 66. I can pretty much make it to the rift guardian with lots of time to spare, but get one shotted easily by certain specials, and end up running over the time limit. I have BoS, EA, and BoT as my gems, but I still struggle with single target DPS. Should I just stack +Haunt damage and hope for the best?

BTW thanks for your videos, they are informative and you're not a bore.

You do want to stack Haunt damage where you can. Unfortunately, this build does not have great single target damage, the strength comes with clearing the rift quickly with good AoE.

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he cant do 80+ after nerf ...

It absolutely can.

I am enjoying this build so much! This is the most time I have ever spent playing a WD. I got very bored, very quickly with my last one. Thankyou!

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I am enjoying this build so much! This is the most time I have ever spent playing a WD. I got very bored, very quickly with my last one. Thankyou!

Your'e welcome!

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Can I ask how do you kill gr bosses if you die?

If I die before boss, I lose all my soul harvest stacks.

Then I just get one-shotted by some bosses every time. GR 59+

Some bosses you just can't get hit, which is easier said then done.

Is this build only for solo gameplay? And if it is, is there any way to make it work for groups?