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#1 User is offline   Medievaldragon Icon

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Posted 24 August 2008 - 03:00 PM

Kotaku cornered Jay Wilson for a short interview where finally the cat is out of the bag. The Barbarian is the only class that is returning in Diablo 3. The Necromancer is completely out of the equation according to Wilson because it was a flawless class. It has no room for improvement beyond what it already is.

Regardless, that doesn't mean we won't see Necromancers as NPCs. This is not official through the interview, but the city of Ureh is within Necromancer territory, thus inevitable not to see Necromancer NPCs. Richard A. Knaak told me a few days ago "Ureh is an integral part of the game." Two years ago, Knaak also told us during the public Q&A that Blizzard had very special plans for Zayl the Necromancer.

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The Necromancer, he said, was simply a victim of his own success. He was just too well crafted as a character, something that Wilson's Blizzard design cohorts, current and former, likely don't mind hearing. Necro fans on the other hand, probably won't be too thrilled to learn of his disappearance, despite the Witch Doctor class's similarities.

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Posted 24 August 2008 - 03:12 PM

OMFG NO PALADIN? wow this ruins my day.
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Posted 24 August 2008 - 03:18 PM

Your day is ruined because you won't get to play as the paladin... even though you will still get to finally play DIII and be able to experience four entirely new classes?

Well, I am very excited. I love finding out about new classes, I am so glad that I won't be "rediscovering" any old classes (cause thats not quite as fun).

But this now really makes me wonder what the fifth class will be (other than ranger or mage).
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Posted 24 August 2008 - 03:20 PM

ya, i really was hoping there would be a paladin. i found that that was my strongest class in D2, and played it all the time. However, i am looking forward to see all of the new classes Blizzard is adding to D3
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Posted 24 August 2008 - 03:20 PM

Atrumentis said:

Your day is ruined because you won't get to play as the paladin... even though you will still get to finally play DIII and be able to experience four entirely new classes?

Well, I am very excited. I love finding out about new classes, I am so glad that I won't be "rediscovering" any old classes (cause thats not quite as fun).

But this now really makes me wonder what the fifth class will be (other than ranger or mage).


well we have our barb which is like mdps

we have our WD which is like a necro/druid (IE summoner-caster)

as you said we will probably have a mage and ranged class

so our 5th should be another melee class that uses auras (IE templar/zealot/maybe a shapeshifting monkey)
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Posted 24 August 2008 - 03:21 PM

G.I.R said:

OMFG NO PALADIN? wow this ruins my day.


maybe he won't be called a paladin. maybe something else... I'm also hoping for it :)

and also would not be disappointed when they announce ANY class whatever it might be. Because it's Blizzard people :)
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Posted 24 August 2008 - 03:22 PM

d2 had all char at their perfection..its really hard to improve them.. well, lets hope d3 will give us new interesting chars to play...
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Posted 24 August 2008 - 03:23 PM

I always thought that the chosen classes for Diablo 2 were perfect and that there was no room for improvement from the concept side. The only thing left for Blizzard to do is to come up with different classes that have similarities with the ones from Diablo 2.

The witch doctor, for example, is replacing the necromancer. Barbarian was left the same so we got 3 new classes to go...

1. We need at least 1 character that uses range martial weapons like bow, javalins or throwing knives/axes. I bet on a Hunter.

2. There must be another caster in D3 something like an elemental controlling wizard (the sorceresss from D2) and if not elements, maybe nature or such.

3. Since there won't be a paladin, there has to be some new character that uses the power of the gods and cast holy magic. We already know there is going to be a new type of damage: "Arcane". I'd say we gonna have a related class. Maybe a priest, cultist or something like that.
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Posted 24 August 2008 - 03:44 PM

I'm glad we wont be seeing the old classes returning, we need something new other than the classic fighter, mage, rogue, cleric classes. IMO the only reason the Barbarian returned was because of Age of Conan. I don't think it was any coincidence that as AoC was released Blizzard said "we have Barbarians too". Given that we have the brute force option and the curse/pet option I would expect to see some kind of stealth option and a ranged option(hopefully some form of new mage) the last option might be a shape shifter or posibly even bestial. Some of the most popular classes and races in Warcraft have strong animal themes so we could end up playing a goat headed Moonclan warrior.
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Posted 24 August 2008 - 04:13 PM

Romak said:

3. Since there won't be a paladin, there has to be some new character that uses the power of the gods and cast holy magic. We already know there is going to be a new type of damage: "Arcane". I'd say we gonna have a related class. Maybe a priest, cultist or something like that.


i never heard of an arcane damage?

and about the whole new classes im worried and excited. yes im excited to have 4 new classes and one that looks like fun to play and learn how to play them. but i am scared about one thing.
1.are they talking about just diablo 2? or the whole franchise. warrior rouge sorrcerer. cause id say to replace pally they say warrior. and amazon for rouge.
2. the reason this scares me. is cause the paladin base was he was a warrior for the high heavens in a way. and he did have healing powers. and i hope to fucking the angris council, and the lord of terror that they dont make a healer class. cause that would be terible.
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Posted 24 August 2008 - 04:57 PM

Well I'm exited and dissapointed at the same time with this news, I am a long running pala-addict for D2 and mostly any other RPG around (even though they are nowere as good as how Blizzard portrayed them), and I will definately miss playing with such class, although I'm happy to see that there may be a new and exiting class on its way, maybe something more similar to the powers shown in the Sin War trilogy? Anyway, it's definately exiting to wonder what kinds of new powers are they bringing to this world (supposing they're not reusing most powers from D2). My only concern would be something silly, because I'm sure the staff is aware os this, which is keeping all classes solo-combat capable, that means that more focus on self serving powers instead of buffs, please! What made D2's paladin great was that all he had to give to the party was his aura, so I just hope they keep more or less the same scheme for all classes in D3, give each a single and distinct way to help group gameplay. Anyway looking forward to Blizzcon next month!
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Posted 24 August 2008 - 05:14 PM

this thread excites me, i now cannot wait to see what blizz shows us at blizzcon! Shapeshifting monkey? if it works, i'll play as that.
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Posted 24 August 2008 - 05:25 PM

Too well crafted? So they decided to steal his skills and put them on a new character instead of tweaking the new skills to fit the Necromancer? What's the point in fucking up one great character to make another one who is very similar to him?
Does not compute.
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Posted 24 August 2008 - 05:36 PM

liquid said:

Too well crafted? So they decided to steal his skills and put them on a new character instead of tweaking the new skills to fit the Necromancer? What's the point in fucking up one great character to make another one who is very similar to him?
Does not compute.



OMG 2 MONGRELS AND A WALL ARE EXACTLY LIKE THE NECROMANCER LOASLDMAODMNFAINFU AIOFGIASEBFGUJSBNG

oh shit, no it isn't

blizzard brought the barb back because they knew kids like you existed and would QQ about no returning classes

I hope they are done trying to please you retards and start focusing on the game so I can play it before 2010
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Posted 24 August 2008 - 05:50 PM

Terror, Attract, Confuse, Zombie Wall (modified bone wall), summoning of pets (skeletons/golem/revive, sound familiar?) and there will be more.
You fail at witty responses, you know that? Stop being a pathetic troll and piss off.
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Posted 24 August 2008 - 05:53 PM

wooooo i'm really anxious to see what the ranged and mage classes are, i'm sad i wont be seeing the necromancer with his 80's metalhead look and an army of 20's skeletons and 30 revives in full 3d madness, but on the good side, there will be loads of new skills to try out.

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Posted 24 August 2008 - 06:00 PM

liquid said:

Too well crafted? So they decided to steal his skills and put them on a new character instead of tweaking the new skills to fit the Necromancer? What's the point in fucking up one great character to make another one who is very similar to him?
Does not compute.


Whine all day, why don't you?

There aren't JUST five types of classes that there can be. Just because diablo 2 had 5 specific types of classes doesn't mean diablo III cannot have other kinds...

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Posted 24 August 2008 - 06:06 PM

All this is old news, I remember reading an article about Wilson posted in these forums saying the exact same line weeks ago.

This is Diablo 3 not another D2 expansion, one class returning is more than enough.

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Posted 24 August 2008 - 06:08 PM

Sure, make all the classes you want. But when you make *new* classes why take the skills of the old class? If you're going to use the same skills, you might as well put the old class back.

Fanboys.
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Posted 24 August 2008 - 06:48 PM

liquid said:

Sure, make all the classes you want. But when you make *new* classes why take the skills of the old class? If you're going to use the same skills, you might as well put the old class back.

Fanboys.


because it is revamping them

are you saying blizzard should never use the blizzard spell again?

if so, it would have never been in any diablo as it was in wc2

so

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