Like many players I stopped playing D3 about 3 months ago. I sold everything on my account and got a measly 300 million total, but I figured I could at least sell the gold and make a cpl bucks. I posted my gold and the AH said I had $75-(Blizzard fees/taxes) at the lowest value allowed for sale 0.25 cents per 1 million I wondered a bit at this, but figured no big deal. If this is the lowest price for me them it's the lowest for all right. Sweet! I had been playing the game from the beginning and would be moderately happy to leave with ~$70. Posted for 3 months every day and Surprise, never sold a bit.
Now like everyone else I get mail friend request spammed by the gold sellers and see the occasional advertisements when in general chat(and report them all like a good little gamer), but never had worried much about them since they were against Blizzard policy they were being dealt with, Right? Now I played WOW from the beginning up to early last year, and Blizzard couldn't even get botters out of battlegrounds after 7 years so this was an incredibly idiotic notion.
So what Blizzard's actions have done to the value of my gold/items/experience/gametime by first putting a RMAH in D3, not adequately stopping/banning/deleting botters and dupers, and not letting the user set the value of gold in the "legit" RMAH is destroy it along with a large part of their game.
Whatever the actual value of my gold was 3 months ago I'll never know, but what I do know is that now my gold is worth ~$8-(Blizzard fees/taxes).
Many lessons to be learned here I'm sure, but 2 for certain. First the law of unintended consequences. And if I may get a bit philosophical/political any governing body that has complete control over the economy will destroy it quick, fast, and in a hurry.
You're... you're upset because of the price that players have put on gold? Blizzard dropped the 'floor' because everyone was using 3rd party sites that were selling gold for 4 cents a mill. Blizzard doesn't create gold to put up on the AH, and they also don't control the price (as much as feasibly possible, 2.5 cents a mill is the lowest now that gold per mill will go down to). If you're mad because your gold isn't worth much, you said yourself you stopped playing 3 months ago. Something that has an endless supply and is only gained through time, like gold, will obviously continue to drop and drop in value.
You're... you're upset because of the price that players have put on gold? Blizzard dropped the 'floor' because everyone was using 3rd party sites that were selling gold for 4 cents a mill. Blizzard doesn't create gold to put up on the AH, and they also don't control the price (as much as feasibly possible, 2.5 cents a mill is the lowest now that gold per mill will go down to). If you're mad because your gold isn't worth much, you said yourself you stopped playing 3 months ago. Something that has an endless supply and is only gained through time, like gold, will obviously continue to drop and drop in value.
I think you're missing the fact that people want to pay more for gold, not less. It's clearly Blizzard's fault that gold prices tanked, and they need to just stop interfering!
Or something. Not really sure what the OP was driving at, really.
I think he's whining that his gold, which he thought was worth $75 three months ago, is only worth $8 today. The problem, which he almost certainly doesn't understand, is that his gold actually wasn't worth $75 three months ago, it was probably worth no more than $30.
You know.. a situation where being educated can prevent you from looking like a horse's ass.
I think he's whining that his gold, which he thought was worth $75 three months ago, is only worth $8 today. The problem, which he almost certainly doesn't understand, is that his gold actually wasn't worth $75 three months ago, it was probably worth no more than $30.
You know.. a situation where being educated can prevent you from looking like a horse's ass.
This. I get a kick out of people complaining their gold didn't sell or Its not worth anything anymore. You couldn't list gold for any less than .25cents, and even if you did it never sold unless some idiot bought it as opposed to flipping gems.
Golds real value is at the 3-4cent/mil mark and it will probably bottom out even further as time progresses. Time= money. and there is plenty of time.
Well, gold's around 2 cents per million now, based on third party sellers trying to compete with Blizzard's new 25 cents per 10M system.
You know what happens when gold becomes cheaper and your gear's quality remains unchanged? Its real-money value remains the same and its gold value goes up. Nothing surprising there.
That was my original Triumvirate, all the way back in December 2012. Based on DiabloProgress, it's still the 16th best Triumvirate in the entire American server.
I sold it for $250 back in December when I cashed out. It was about the equivalent of 1-2 billion gold.
Last month or so, I was hunting for a new Triumvirate and thought about digging through my connections and sources to track down the current owner. I found him. And guess what he wanted for it?
A minimum of 10 billion gold. You know what that's equivalent to in the past month in terms of real money? Approximately $250.
The real-money value of your gear does not change as long as players still desire it. But the gold equivalent will continue to climb as long as gold becomes cheaper and cheaper.
Edit: Just to add, this has been pointed out before; three months ago, OPs gold was not worth nearly as much as he thought it was worth. Since the beginning, many players have been converting gold and real money into gems, and trading them as the true currency. It's slightly corrected now based on the new price floor, but the battle wages on between Blizzard and botters.
Blizzard lost the battle with botters. It doesn't even seem like they care. That's why I don't even get why they want an always online feature anymore. They clearly cannot combat against botters, the spam isn't as bad, but I still get tons of random invites all the time. I've never bought 3rd party gold, nor would I purchase it from a Chinese company if I were inclined to do so.
Blizzard lost the battle with botters. It doesn't even seem like they care. That's why I don't even get why they want an always online feature anymore. They clearly cannot combat against botters, the spam isn't as bad, but I still get tons of random invites all the time. I've never bought 3rd party gold, nor would I purchase it from a Chinese company if I were inclined to do so.
Botters =/= Hacking the game. Having the online only rule combats against people actually breaking into the game's architecture and changing source code, which would completely ruin the game. Botting is a different story. There's not a single game on the market that can fully protect against botting, because as technology gets more sophisticated, it gets easier and easier to trick the game into thinking a real person is playing.
I hate botters as much as the next person, but you can't just claim GG BLIZZ, say they don't care and then expect anyone to respect your opinion. From a purely business standpoint it's only logical that Blizzard spends as much resources as they can afford to stop botting, because losing players to rampant botting > having botters around that might use the RMAH.
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Now like everyone else I get mail friend request spammed by the gold sellers and see the occasional advertisements when in general chat(and report them all like a good little gamer), but never had worried much about them since they were against Blizzard policy they were being dealt with, Right? Now I played WOW from the beginning up to early last year, and Blizzard couldn't even get botters out of battlegrounds after 7 years so this was an incredibly idiotic notion.
So what Blizzard's actions have done to the value of my gold/items/experience/gametime by first putting a RMAH in D3, not adequately stopping/banning/deleting botters and dupers, and not letting the user set the value of gold in the "legit" RMAH is destroy it along with a large part of their game.
Whatever the actual value of my gold was 3 months ago I'll never know, but what I do know is that now my gold is worth ~$8-(Blizzard fees/taxes).
Many lessons to be learned here I'm sure, but 2 for certain. First the law of unintended consequences. And if I may get a bit philosophical/political any governing body that has complete control over the economy will destroy it quick, fast, and in a hurry.
I think you're missing the fact that people want to pay more for gold, not less. It's clearly Blizzard's fault that gold prices tanked, and they need to just stop interfering!
Or something. Not really sure what the OP was driving at, really.
You know.. a situation where being educated can prevent you from looking like a horse's ass.
Golds real value is at the 3-4cent/mil mark and it will probably bottom out even further as time progresses. Time= money. and there is plenty of time.
You know what happens when gold becomes cheaper and your gear's quality remains unchanged? Its real-money value remains the same and its gold value goes up. Nothing surprising there.
I'll use this as an example:
http://www.diablopro...m/item/21405191
That was my original Triumvirate, all the way back in December 2012. Based on DiabloProgress, it's still the 16th best Triumvirate in the entire American server.
I sold it for $250 back in December when I cashed out. It was about the equivalent of 1-2 billion gold.
Last month or so, I was hunting for a new Triumvirate and thought about digging through my connections and sources to track down the current owner. I found him. And guess what he wanted for it?
A minimum of 10 billion gold. You know what that's equivalent to in the past month in terms of real money? Approximately $250.
The real-money value of your gear does not change as long as players still desire it. But the gold equivalent will continue to climb as long as gold becomes cheaper and cheaper.
Edit: Just to add, this has been pointed out before; three months ago, OPs gold was not worth nearly as much as he thought it was worth. Since the beginning, many players have been converting gold and real money into gems, and trading them as the true currency. It's slightly corrected now based on the new price floor, but the battle wages on between Blizzard and botters.
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Botters =/= Hacking the game. Having the online only rule combats against people actually breaking into the game's architecture and changing source code, which would completely ruin the game. Botting is a different story. There's not a single game on the market that can fully protect against botting, because as technology gets more sophisticated, it gets easier and easier to trick the game into thinking a real person is playing.
I hate botters as much as the next person, but you can't just claim GG BLIZZ, say they don't care and then expect anyone to respect your opinion. From a purely business standpoint it's only logical that Blizzard spends as much resources as they can afford to stop botting, because losing players to rampant botting > having botters around that might use the RMAH.