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#1 BatuKMan

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 08:31 PM

Is it just me or it seems that the damage reflected from monsters with Reflect Damage and Health Link affix seems must higher than the monsters with the Reflect Damage affix only.

On lower MP's it doesn't affect me at all but from MP5+ I can specially see my health taking a drop when using Overpower - Killing Spree, once I pop it just hitting one monster the health link animation appears and my health globe lowers significantly, this doesn't happen when doing the same with Reflect Damage packs only.

Has anyone experienced the same?

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:19 AM

If you're running with something life steal, you're probably noticing more damage because you won't be healing as much since it recovers the damage you deal to the primary target. When all three are reflecting damage, you're getting hit at full force while only recovering a percentage of it.

I thought they fixed this. It was reported to be a bug I thought. I know Minion Reflect hit a lot harder than intended and they fixed that one for sure.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 05:27 AM

the killer now are still the plagues.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 06:05 AM

View Postglhgod, on 25 February 2013 - 05:27 AM, said:

the killer now are still the plagues.
+1

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 07:51 AM

View PostKiliano, on 25 February 2013 - 06:05 AM, said:

View Postglhgod, on 25 February 2013 - 05:27 AM, said:

the killer now are still the plagues.
+1

And Frozen. Dear God, I hate Frozen more than any other affix in the game right now.

glhgod, BUDDY!

Edited by Jaetch, 25 February 2013 - 07:51 AM.

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#6 BatuKMan

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:16 PM

Yes Cantor I'm running 9% LS for higher MP's, I guess that is what's happening with Health Link and Reflect Damage, I'm getting 3x the reflect damage but only 1x the LS.
The Reflect Damage for Barbs wasn't a problem it were more for ranged classes, which they've nerfed since I can now survive easy with my wizard, still have to kite if I have a Health Link+Reflect Damage until the reflect damage stops.

It's the only elites that can kill me in MP5 are these ones with HL+RD plus plagued, also getting trapped into frost whilst standing in plagued+molten and taking hits will kill me but that's a rare occurrence.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 01:41 PM

A small misunderstanding here, regarding reflect damage and health link.

It is not that you are getting 3 times as much damage reflected, but that you are only getting a third back from life steal. small difference i am sure, but noteworthy nonetheless.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 01:59 PM

View Postdinamar, on 25 February 2013 - 01:41 PM, said:

A small misunderstanding here, regarding reflect damage and health link.

It is not that you are getting 3 times as much damage reflected, but that you are only getting a third back from life steal. small difference i am sure, but noteworthy nonetheless.


Thank you.
It makes a huge difference to me. For a long time now, i was trying to figure out why Health Link was giving me troubles. First i thought it's in combination with RD, then i noticed Electrified + Health Link was troublesome too, but in the end i figured out its Health Link alone (well i mean in combination with any high dmg affix or mob type). I just didn't think of what you said. I am relieved now that i know (if it's correct), it was really bugging me.



About plagued  - suddenly Andariel's makes more sense. Or just a single 50+ poison resist roll on shoulder/pants ;)
Against RD you need physical resist.

Edited by Turtel, 25 February 2013 - 08:15 PM.


#9 BatuKMan

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 07:48 PM

I though that issue of getting only 1/3rd of life back was solved on patch v1.07… well apparently not.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 07:59 PM

View PostTurtel, on 25 February 2013 - 01:59 PM, said:

View Postdinamar, on 25 February 2013 - 01:41 PM, said:

A small misunderstanding here, regarding reflect damage and health link.

It is not that you are getting 3 times as much damage reflected, but that you are only getting a third back from life steal. small difference i am sure, but noteworthy nonetheless.


Thank you.
It makes a huge difference to me. For a long time now, i was trying to figure out why Health Link was giving me troubles. First i thought it's in combination with RD, then i noticed Electrified + Health Link was troublesome too, but in the end i figured out its Health Link alone. I just didn't think of what you said. I am relieved now that i know, it was really bugging me.



About plagued  - suddenly Andariel's makes more sense. Or just a single 50+ poison resist roll on shoulder/pants ;)
Against RD you need physical resist.

Pretty sure plagued is physical resist too.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 08:16 PM

plague is obviously poision resist... are you trolling?

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 09:04 PM

Arcane Enchanted - arcane
Desecrator - physical
Electrified - lightning
Fire Chains - fire
Frozen - cold
Molten - fire
Mortar - fire
Plagued - poison
Reflect Damage - physical

Edited by Jaetch, 25 February 2013 - 09:05 PM.

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