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#1 Rodan

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 08:12 AM

I want to share a theory I have.

I will start with a short example.
Since patch 1.0.5 I've been collecting all the crap legendaries I've found.
When it got to about 80 items I've salvaged them all and sold the entire brimstone pack.
Low and behold, a few minutes after the pack was sold, I got a (crap) legendary craft plan drop for the first time.
This indicated to me that the drops are somehow affected by your play style and/or AH usage.

If I enhance this indication, I can assume that RMAH users get better drops.
Better drops for RMAH users = more money for Blizzard.

Personally, my best drop in nearly 500hours playtime was a Skorn that sold for 150mil in GAH about 2 months ago, which let me build my barb.
I don't use the RMAH.

Would love to read your thoughts and personal experience about it.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 08:36 AM

you played 500 hours, the rng in this is so wide that you can never get any serious conclusions based on your personal experience with loot, you would need thousend and thousend of ppl uploading data and then still its RNG!

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#3 Astrand

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 09:22 AM

View PostRodan, on 09 February 2013 - 08:12 AM, said:

Better drops for RMAH users = more money for Blizzard.

How? Shouldn't it be the opposite? Worse drops for players that are willing to pay real money = more buys from RMAH.

From my observations, drop is unaffected by anything else than MP, MF and RNG.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 09:36 AM

Reading the absurdity in the OP has dropped my IQ by a factor of ten. Pairing said absurdity with the word "theory" put me in a state of idiocy.

I have to go read something intelligent to salvage what's left of my brain.

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#5 Rodan

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 09:49 AM

View PostAstrand, on 09 February 2013 - 09:22 AM, said:

View PostRodan, on 09 February 2013 - 08:12 AM, said:

Better drops for RMAH users = more money for Blizzard.

How? Shouldn't it be the opposite? Worse drops for players that are willing to pay real money = more buys from RMAH.

From my observations, drop is unaffected by anything else than MP, MF and RNG.

let me rephrase

Better drops for RMAH sellers = more money for Blizzard

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 09:53 AM

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#7 Hadley88

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 10:31 AM

Not sure if serious...
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Posted 09 February 2013 - 11:24 AM

View PostJaetch, on 09 February 2013 - 09:36 AM, said:

Reading the absurdity in the OP has dropped my IQ by a factor of ten. Pairing said absurdity with the word "theory" put me in a state of idiocy.

I have to go read something intelligent to salvage what's left of my brain.

This, and also our naivety to have bothered coming in here with a title like that.
I spose we really just are our own worst enemies.

@OP: You keep stroking that tinfoil hat boy! Don't forget though, aliens built the pyramids and George Bush has the facts about it in his secret alien-proof bunker under Area52, right next door to the Jewish Banker's vault where they keep all the world's money!

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 11:48 AM

sometimes i wish for OP's state of mind. but not when talking to others :/
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#10 Drachar

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 12:09 PM

View PostRodan, on 09 February 2013 - 08:12 AM, said:

I will start with a short example.
Since patch 1.0.5 I've been collecting all the crap legendaries I've found.
When it got to about 80 items I've salvaged them all and sold the entire brimstone pack.
Low and behold, a few minutes after the pack was sold, I got a (crap) legendary craft plan drop for the first time.
This indicated to me that the drops are somehow affected by your play style and/or AH usage.

The tinfoil hat is strong in this one.

#11 U47

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 02:25 PM

Apophenia is the experience of seeing meaningful patterns or connections in random or meaningless data.

How many people actually suffer from this I wonder? I know I sometimes see things but I always wrote it off to a good imagination or flash backs due to my drug using days. :)
random
1. Having no specific pattern, purpose, or objective: random movements. See Synonym- chance.
chance
1. a. The unknown and unpredictable element in happenings that seems to have no assignable cause.
b. A force assumed to cause events that cannot be foreseen or controlled; luck: Chance will determine the outcome.

#12 houserhythm

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 02:46 PM

Actually the human mind can't really comprehend the concept of random. Our minds, subconsciously, try to see some kind of pattern when processing data.

This is an interesting article on the subject dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1334712/Humans-concept-randomness-hard-understand.html#axzz2KPgZLxub

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 02:47 PM

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 03:36 PM

View PostRodan, on 09 February 2013 - 08:12 AM, said:

Would love to read your thoughts and personal experience about it.

My thoughts are that you should be put in a padded cell for your own protection.  The only effective way I've found to get more drops is to kill more monsters.  I'm sorry that you wasted even 15 minutes of your life dreaming this up because even if you spent those 15 minutes flipping a coin it would have been a better use of that time.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 03:43 PM

Troll or idiot, or both?

#16 Serpenth

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 04:20 PM

Well OP your theory is a little flawed because you haven't tested the other part of your theory.  You should probably start trying to use the RMAH and then see if your drop rates increase.  Good luck ;)

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 04:38 PM

This is a great find, OP. I'm actually gonna help you get better drops. If you add me ingame, I can put up some nice items on the RMAH (except for I only have crap items, so by "nice" I mean useless). You can buy my items, thus you're flagged as frequent RMAH user and you get better loot. WINWIN!

At least there's hope for humanity, as all the (sane) answers here show... it seems like everyone (except for the OP) has understood RNG. Good job!

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 05:20 PM

Can't fix stupid.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 05:34 PM

View PostSerpenth, on 09 February 2013 - 04:20 PM, said:

Well OP your theory is a little flawed because you haven't tested the other part of your theory.  You should probably start trying to use the RMAH and then see if your drop rates increase.  Good luck ;)

I think spending about $1000 would be a good starting point.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 05:36 PM

View PostRMrulz, on 09 February 2013 - 03:43 PM, said:

Troll or idiot, or both?

I'm thinking trolliot.....

Serious though.....it has come to my attention in recent months that there really are that many people whom contrive fantastic, secret reasons for why they haven't gotten X amount of drops. RNG is a difficult concept for some minds. It is such a simple formula for generating item drops, that it, in it's mere simplicity, causes disbelief and distrust by certain "types" of people.




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