Posted 17 January 2013 - 07:08 PM
Okay, let's not derail this thread by getting in a personal fight I'm not even interested in. I think the core of our posts are about the same - it's possible to survive on MP10 thanks to CMWW mechanics (that's what I said) and it might be possible to kill things on MP10 with these low budget builds (that's what has been shown) but it takes so long, like literally ages, such that it can't really be called a "working solution", let alone being used to farm MP10 (that's what you say and I totally agree).
The one and only thing that I would've liked to be seen is a nerf of one of the 4 things you need for CMWW (DS for survivability, FN for stunlock, CM for resetting the timers, IAS with a working spell for proccing CM so often). Sure, there would be a shitstorm on Blizzard, but right now the low budget players and people with an equipment worth around a few dozens million gold (yes, these people exist) will force any wizard in their group to go CMWW for high MP and/or ubers because it's such an easy mode button and their only realistic chance on getting stuff on these levels done. Therefore, in my opinion, CMWW as of now is nothing but a huge help for bypassing the gear hunt that Diablo has ever been about in the first place.
Which brings us back to the thread's title - yeah, CMWW is the only way to do high MPs unless you have godly gear. If you have godly gear and want to kill things in less than a few hours, CM (not necessarily CMWW, but CM) is mandatory - like Jaetch and maka said. However, "is CMWW the only way to high MP" (topic)? Maybe, but maybe you can also get your EHP to levels where you don't mind to be hit by enemies and you're able to kill them with Blizzard (especially once it's buffed after the patch), Disintegrate, or some similar spell that does not rely on CM procs. It will probably never be as efficient as CM(WW), but it might work once you have MP10 endgame gear.