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[Googlemebra]

Okay, looking for what kind of stats would be required to get a monk mp10 ready. The bare minimum. I was never good at monk but shit man, it looks funner than hell and want to get into it. (cyclone spec i mean).

I could be wrong but here's what i was thinking to get the bare minimum stats:

650 AR
5kish armor
5.5 LS
40k hp
40% crit
150k unbuffed dps

Price? I honestly have nfc but i think its definitely doable for under 300m. Like i said though i haven't played my monk in awhile (other than TR), so i could use some suggestions.

[MONK_P100]

It is doable in 300m, and your specifications are quite close, maybe a bit more HP ~50k and a bit of LOH on top.

[Googledit]

Hmmm... I want to see if I can do it. I will have to shop around over the next week and see what I can come up with.

I wont lie, that last 10k health and some LoH is gonna be rough. I was concerned 40k seemed to be a little high to shoot as it was haha.

[Tazeon]

I'm in the same boat and would be intersted which items and stats I need and you recommend for a monk for ubers mp8 solo.

I'm starting to equip my monk from zero.

Furthermore I would like to know which skills and runes to use maybe some useful links to updated informations about an uber monk. i tried the search function and read about, but not very satisfying.

Edited by Tazeon, 08 January 2013 - 12:53 PM.

[JKlimek]

^don't do ubers solo.  At this point in the game it's just a waste of machines/time.  There's almost always someone around in the "looking for group" chat that will play with you so that you only have to use 1 machine per run.  Plus more people allows you to rez/get rez'd if things go bad, and typically the 70% hp bonus the elites get is more than offset by the dps the other people are doing.

To OP, you should be able to get WAY more RA than that with a monk.  the 800-1200 range isn't inconceivable.  Personally I would want as much crit chance as possible because the tornadoes you spawn are doing most of your damage and obviously 10% more crit is a lot more damage AND tornadoes.

[thesikaleon]

Googlemebra, on 07 January 2013 - 04:22 PM, said:

650 AR
5kish armor
5.5 LS
40k hp
40% crit
150k unbuffed dps

come on you try to copy my monk!!!   http://d3up.com/b/240603

BTW worth more than 300m

[Tazeon]

JKlimek, on 08 January 2013 - 02:03 PM, said:

^don't do ubers solo.  At this point in the game it's just a waste of machines/time.  There's almost always someone around in the "looking for group" chat that will play with you so that you only have to use 1 machine per run.  Plus more people allows you to rez/get rez'd if things go bad, and typically the 70% hp bonus the elites get is more than offset by the dps the other people are doing.

I only want to know what I need to do it solo. I will kill them in a group, but most of them will be weaker then me. Still need some more background informations about the monk.

[DreamWalker]

Tazeon, on 08 January 2013 - 12:51 PM, said:

I'm in the same boat and would be intersted which items and stats I need and you recommend for a monk for ubers mp8 solo.

I'm starting to equip my monk from zero.

Furthermore I would like to know which skills and runes to use maybe some useful links to updated informations about an uber monk. i tried the search function and read about, but not very satisfying.

This is where i'm at currently. Monk

I'm able to solo mp5-6, have to move around and avoid some stuff tho, ex. slow field from kulle and when maghda stacks too much arcane beam. Price range i don't really have any clue, since i only build my monk to do ubers and it kinda just shares gear with my DH, (as much of it as possible) and a lot of the gear i just found myself.

But hope this gives a little insight to what you're building towards

[Tazeon]

thanks dreamwalker

so skills to use:
Fists of Thunder (Thunderclap)
Breath of Heaven (Blazing Wrath)
Binding Flash (Faith in the Light)
Serenity (Ascension)
Sweeping Wind (Cyclone)
Mantra of Convinction (Overawe)

Passiv:
One with Everything
Seize the Initiative

For the 3rd passive the guardian path don't seems perfect for me for ubers. Which 3rd passive should I use or is most useful?
Resolve, Fleet Footed, Near Death Experience

All other skills seems for a monk noob like me very good, or is there any special skill which is better for ubers?

My main damage comes from Fists of Thunder or Sweeping Wind (Cyclone) ?
Is therefore the offhand damage important ?

The most important damage stats is crit chance! Right?
What should I aim next on gloves, rings, amu - ias or crit damage?

[Googledit]

Wish mempos would come down in price already. Seen the same ones for wizards (im sure dex is the same) at 1b+ for close to a month now. Same repost every day.

[sechssechssechs]

Tazeon, on 08 January 2013 - 03:01 PM, said:

thanks dreamwalker

so skills to use:
Fists of Thunder (Thunderclap)
Breath of Heaven (Blazing Wrath)
Binding Flash (Faith in the Light)
Serenity (Ascension)
Sweeping Wind (Cyclone)
Mantra of Convinction (Overawe)

Passiv:
One with Everything
Seize the Initiative

For the 3rd passive the guardian path don't seems perfect for me for ubers. Which 3rd passive should I use or is most useful?
Resolve, Fleet Footed, Near Death Experience

All other skills seems for a monk noob like me very good, or is there any special skill which is better for ubers?

My main damage comes from Fists of Thunder or Sweeping Wind (Cyclone) ?
Is therefore the offhand damage important ?

The most important damage stats is crit chance! Right?
What should I aim next on gloves, rings, amu - ias or crit damage?

The third passive should be resolve for a big ehp gain or guiding light in party play for 15% more damage.
The Cyclones do the main damage and the offhand damage is important too (the only exception is the ww-barb)

Get crit chance above 40%.

[SolusCoda]

I use 5800 armor, 620 all res, 1200 LoH, 5.4% LS, 25% block chance, and the defensive passives mentioned above (resolve, StI, OWE) to solo mp10 ubers. Main damage comes from cyclones with a high damage gear snapshot. 1.4m dps with 5.4 LS and the above mentioned LoH means I never die even when taking damage from both bosses.

I recommend using a shield for mp10 ubers. you can get over 50% crit and high defensive with it.

I also recommend tempest rush for all builds so you can easily position yourself correctly. The best defensive ability in the game is good positioning to avoid extra damage. I don't use breath of heaven.

Edited by SolusCoda, 08 January 2013 - 04:16 PM.

[Tazeon]

SolusCoda, on 08 January 2013 - 04:07 PM, said:

Main damage comes from cyclones with a high damage gear snapshot.

Can someone explain "high damage gear snapshot"? how does this work in details?

[JKlimek]

When you activate some abilities (like sweeping wind) the ability takes a look at your CURRENT damage and bases the ability damage on that.  If you have temporary buffs, it will keep the additional damage even after the buff goes away.

[JKlimek]

Stole this from http://www.reddit.co..._on_how_the_sw/

"Think of the sweeping wind as a combined total of all of your damage modifiers. Basically, anything that affects weapons damage. (Dont confuse weapons damage with stat sheet DPS, they are not the same thing) Things like:

• Dexterity
  
• Average Damage
  
• Crit Hit Damage
  
• +% bonus to Sweeping Wind damage
  
• +% bonus to elites
  
• +% Bonus to elemental damage
  
• +% damage to XXX based skills

Now add to this non-weapons damage modifers such a LS and Life after Kill that are seen on Skorns.
Perhaps the "most beneficial" of these modifiers is Critical Hit Damage. The trick is to stack CD as high as you can, say 500%, then gear swap into gear that has huge ammounts of Crit Chance and AS. This is because Crit Chance and AS are not included in the initial SW capture.
That's why you see videos of guys gear swapping to fast, low DPS weapons. Since the wind is already going , the weapons damage value no longer matters. Bascially they are manipulating the mechanic into thinking that they are wearing a single gear set with 500% CD and 61% crit chance. Throw a high level of AS into the mix and you could possibly be doing over 2 - 2.5M tDPS. It's insane."

[Shinna1989]

SW even snapshots lifesteal....So basicly for a high dmg snapshot gearset you will use:

- Rings and Amu with as much dex and crit damage as you can afford.
- A cheap rare helm with highest bonus to sweeping wind damage and high dex
- If you can afford an soj with bonus to sweeping wind
- Either a skorn or just a regular 2h with high ccd, open socket(for more ccd) and as much lifesteal you can get. I recommand a high dps 2h rare weapon since they are funkin cheap.

For regular gearset you want:

- Inna´s 4pc(to keep up your snapshot of sw)
- 1h with high attackspeed and without loh or lifesteal!
- A shield with 10% crit chance, vit and all res+stacking res and if possible dex or things like %life

How does the snapshotting works?

1.) Equip all your "snapshot gear"
2.) Get fuly buffed(BoH, Blindingflash what ever skills you use for your build)
3.) Activate SW and switch to your inna´s helm for getting the 4pc bonus again.
4.) Switch rest of your gear but keep in mind to recast sw while doing this to maintain the snapshot!
5.) GG done. Have fun with it untill it gets fixed.

[Googledit]

Assuming your snap shot doesn't fall off, you wouldn't need to change back to it ever as it auto refreshes with the snapshots modifiers?

[Tazeon]

Shinna1989, on 09 January 2013 - 01:47 AM, said:

SW even snapshots lifesteal....So basicly for a high dmg snapshot gearset you will use:

- Rings and Amu with as much dex and crit damage as you can afford.
- A cheap rare helm with highest bonus to sweeping wind damage and high dex
- If you can afford an soj with bonus to sweeping wind
- Either a skorn or just a regular 2h with high ccd, open socket(for more ccd) and as much lifesteal you can get. I recommand a high dps 2h rare weapon since they are funkin cheap.

For regular gearset you want:

- Inna´s 4pc(to keep up your snapshot of sw)
- 1h with high attackspeed and without loh or lifesteal!
- A shield with 10% crit chance, vit and all res+stacking res and if possible dex or things like %life

How does the snapshotting works?

1.) Equip all your "snapshot gear"
2.) Get fuly buffed(BoH, Blindingflash what ever skills you use for your build)
3.) Activate SW and switch to your inna´s helm for getting the 4pc bonus again.
4.) Switch rest of your gear but keep in mind to recast sw while doing this to maintain the snapshot!
5.) GG done. Have fun with it untill it gets fixed.

great summary!!!
thanks for this help

[JKlimek]

i actually wouldn't recommend a shield unless you REALLY need the crit chance.  use a really fast weapon an echoing fury for the +0.25 attacks.  The extra attacks you get off should make a higher difference in your total crits at some point.

Assuming you have roughly 2.25 A/S before weapons and a 45% crit chance, you're crit'ing 10 times in 10 seconds.
At 2.25 A/S with 55% cc, you crit 12 times in 10 seconds.
with the off hand at +.25 and the AS bonus for dual wielding, you should be above 3 A/S with 45% cc, you crit 13.5 times in 10 seconds.

[Shinna1989]

JKlimek, on 09 January 2013 - 02:16 PM, said:

i actually wouldn't recommend a shield unless you REALLY need the crit chance.  use a really fast weapon an echoing fury for the +0.25 attacks.  The extra attacks you get off should make a higher difference in your total crits at some point.

Assuming you have roughly 2.25 A/S before weapons and a 45% crit chance, you're crit'ing 10 times in 10 seconds.
At 2.25 A/S with 55% cc, you crit 12 times in 10 seconds.
with the off hand at +.25 and the AS bonus for dual wielding, you should be above 3 A/S with 45% cc, you crit 13.5 times in 10 seconds.

You will use a shield for the def. stats and not just bcuz it adds crit chance...On a lower budget its way cheaper to stack all the things you need on a shield to make the whole set balanced for higher mp. For like 40 or maybe 50mil you can build a "snapshot monk" capable doing mp10...