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[Kdub69]

Anyone ever banned for loot alert by itself?

[TobiasKr]

Did a little search as I honestly didn't know how it worked and stumbled upon:
eu.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6200870100   and a wizard plvl 100 petition for a ban. It is 3rd party, so yeah, you probably will get banned at some point

[Andarus]

Of course. Its like a model-hack in a shooter.

[Pherce]

It's not that it's just third party, it's that it reads memory and is therefore very illegal. It's just a matter of time.

[Nensec]

It is not allowed no..
That said, unless Warden actively scans for the process of loot alert then it cannot detect the act of reading memory.
Thus so long the process name is different each time it is -undetectable-. And well, what the cops don't know is legal right?

Edited by Nensec, 05 January 2013 - 05:53 PM.

[Imedge666]

I'm with blizzard with this one. Any kind of third party program should be à good reason enough to get you ban. With this game when real money is involve even à little bit of à tiny program that makes à little noise about à loot should get you have the ban hammer.

[Catalept]

Nensec, on 05 January 2013 - 05:52 PM, said:

It is not allowed no..
That said, unless Warden actively scans for the process of loot alert then it cannot detect the act of reading memory.
Thus so long the process name is different each time it is -undetectable-.

Not at all true. For a process to read another process' memory, you have to jump through certain very specific hoops, which are almost certainly one of the exact things Warden will be looking for. Using any 3rd-party app that reads D3's memory directly is asking for trouble.

[Serpenth]

I had thought all 3rd party apps were illegal?

If that's the case, there is no risk using it because they can ban you.  It doesn't matter if one thinks it's ok to use or not wants to justify it, it's against the rules.

It's like getting caught with pot.  All of your friends think it's ok but the law says no.

[Hikari]

I think it is in the grey area.

From a regular user point of view, it plays an alert whenever a piece of useful loot drops.

How the program gets that piece of information is irrelevant: a significant portion of the player base has no understanding all the "magic" that goes on behind the scene.

Such a program is no different from, lets say, a equipment swap macro used by many Sweeping Wind monks (from software or D3 supported hardware), or having a map of all the variations of Keep 2 open in your second monitor via web browser, or how about a simple timer program that you use to keep track of auction bids?

All the above are "third party programs" (even the map) that gives a slight edge in gameplay, but is not as obvious as say, a hack that makes you invincible, or one that clones items (its called calling blizzard for a rollback) - which are quite obvious you are gainning "something out of nothing". Loot Alert does not magically make more loot drop, its simply an alert to the common user.

Of course, using anything along the lines of Loot Alert is always a risk, but most you will get out of it is probably a warning and not a perma-ban.  Thus I believe those that claim they got banned from Loot Alert are simply botters trying to put the blame on something else.

[Xenocow]

Exactly, its Read only.
No Injection, No Detection.

Its no gurantee that you wont get banned though.
Use at your own risc.

[Bananaramaaah]

simple rule:

3rd party programs = ban

it plays for you (looks for items), so you will get banned. dont use it, it's actually build in the game anyways (legendary loot alert..)
dont use any of these programs. never.

[bobby2toes]

ive been using it for months and nothing has happened to my account.

that said, i did open a ticket asking whether its safe to use or not. heres the replies that i got

first
"Thank you for contacting us, I would like to infrom you that we do not support any addons for D3 if in use action maybe be held against the account."

second
"If you are caught using bots or any programme that automates gameplay in any way you will have your account locked. With Dialbo we don't do half measures, we just ban."

third
"Unfortunatly third party addons or programs are not supported in Diablo 3. I'm afraid that the action taken is correct and will not be overturned.

If you wish to give further feedback on this action please contact CSfeedbackEU@blizzard.com"

i was basically asking what actions would be taken if im caught using it. those were the replies, so use at risk

Edited by bobby2toes, 08 January 2013 - 01:03 AM.

[cying247]

its bannable.  seriously..is it worth losing multiple hundreds or maybe even thousands of hours of gameplay for loot alert??

[Hikari]

Bananaramaaah, on 08 January 2013 - 12:34 AM, said:

simple rule:

3rd party programs = ban

it plays for you (looks for items), so you will get banned. dont use it, it's actually build in the game anyways (legendary loot alert..)
dont use any of these programs. never.

To be exact, Section 2D of the ELUA states:

• Use any unauthorized third-party software that intercepts, "mines", or otherwise collects information from or through the Game or the Service, including without limitation any software that reads areas of RAM used by the Game to store information;

You probably use a third party program to add music to the game (ie: itunes/WMP), a third party program to control mouse acceleration (mouse drivers: D3 for some reason does not allow you to adjust mouse sensitivity).  The former allow you to not fall asleep during your 941st Alkaizer run, and the latter allows you to play the game without moving your mouse off the edge of your desk.  Those are fine by the definition of the EULA.


Loot alert is useful for newer players that haven't familiarize themselves with all the various item names in the game, or WW barbs that have mobs die off screen.  Unfortunately, the average joe is probably not aware that LootAlert functions base on a memory read.

Whether or not blizzard perma-bans someone using LootAlert, while botters, scammers. gold sellers are on the loose is another story.

[omnom]

with sound setup correctly i have finally gotten used to the legendary sound blizzard gave us but i do wish i could change it like in loot alert i have not used loot alert in months and am confident i have not missed more than 1 or 2 legendarys which were most likely bad anyway
i encourage you out there who still use loot alert to do the same as i and just weed yourself off it and familiarize yourself  with their sound but also push for customization of their alert system

[Zero(pS)]

The website where you can get this sort of program usually has threads with people saying whether they got banned or not for using it. That's probably the best place to know if people are actually getting banned for using it.

In here you're mostly going to find out what's the general consensus on whether you can get banned for it or not, and how people feel about it.

I personally wouldn't risk it. I like my account and characters.