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#21 Gourdin

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 05:45 PM

Hmm, sorry for my english.

I don't really understand the difference between a "Black damage" weapon and an "Elemental damage" weapon.

For example, two spears with the same damage weapon, same speed and same min/max damage, what will exactly change with the theorycraft of bears ? Are you saying the +300/500 fire dmg don't apply in the dmg calculation and bears will hit at 500k with black dmg and 300k with elemental dmg ?

Thanks for your help, don't find anything on the web...

#22 Gourdin

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:38 AM

Ok, found myself an answer, it appears to only affect the damage boost of item like Zunimasa Boots which have a 8% poison dmg on them. The modifier will only apply on the weapon physical damage, so with with a +300 fire dmg, this 8% will apply not apply to them.

However if you not intend to get Zuni boots or item with a %dmg modifier (Jordan or Tal Rasha's neck), black damage don't seems to have any interest. I am wrong ?

#23 lodftw

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 05:03 PM

why is 4 piece zunimas a must have?

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 05:29 PM

The mana regen is ridiculous.
I wouldn't say it's a "must have", but it's certainly an excellent bonus.

Edited by maka, 13 January 2013 - 05:30 PM.


#25 lodftw

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 05:34 PM

ok thank you

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 11:28 PM

Running this at MP6 now. Ty.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:44 AM

Hi.

This is my WD: http://eu.battle.net...63/hero/6891443

Can you tell me what I need to upgrade next? Only 100k dps after I did your build and I need to improve. Thinking about picking an extra defense skill before farming MP6. My goal is MP7 or 8.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 12:17 PM

I'm really glad that I could help people go for higher MP's.

@SoAmazin,if we consider Dps Gain per gold spent  best upgrade for you would be a better amulet. I see real cheap rare amulets these days. (by saying cheap i mean 10-15m). Which can up you dmg a lot. Also you may look for a better Vile Ward they are also kinda cheap.

Btw will be sharing a new build for 1.07 (when I have the time for it). Will be using the same gear, but you guys gonna deal way a lot more dmg :)

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 02:20 PM

I absolutely love this build. Whats up with your "chicken" variant? ;) And how do you feel about another def skill?

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 03:45 PM

View PostSoAmazin, on 14 January 2013 - 02:20 PM, said:

I absolutely love this build. Whats up with your "chicken" variant? ;) And how do you feel about another def skill?

Ah hehe it is on the "to be recorded and to be published" list. I've been running with my chicken build on MP8. Runing & Killing everything extermly fast. It is not suitable for most since it requires top gear (also problematic vs reflects on MP8) but I beleive it's gonna be fun to watch.

Build is http://eu.battle.net...UXdi!TYZ!ccZZcb but it is still experimental so do not try this at home :P

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 04:42 AM

Wow bro, you are a little late with this build.  I was posting on US blizz forum months ago showcasing endless bears.  Now we know where you got it from.

You don't even kill the reflects in your video, not even the ez skeletons.  You just kill the white mobs and skip to the next. LOL

http://www.twitch.tv...stsc2/c/1791205

Here is a good reflect dmg video.   Extra health reflect dmg phase beast.

Here is a quote someone showed me about you trying to bash me on bnet forum
"Since when soloing ubers is a achievement? It's been months since i last did ubers.
http://www.twitch.tv...sc2/b/354108556
Watched this recent one. Your farming is painfully slow (not that anyone can call that farming) . 2XX k bear crits? Shows how bad your gearing & talents are. In my first free time I will be recording some MP10 runs. So hopefully I can avoid newcomers to be affected by ignorant guys like you"

Pathetic.  The funny part is that your crits aren't much higher than mine even when you have slam dance on.  When you watch my video, my crits go up to 900k without slam dance.  Also I am attacking faster sustained by more max mana/mana regen.   You have 20k more unbuffed dps, WOW.  That is so good!!... O wait your ehp is under 500k :(((


Make a video of soloing mp10 uber PLZ

#32 WakaDoDo

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 08:21 AM

I fucking love the internet.

EDIT: Nooooooooo! I wanted drama but Hasansabbat had to be all reasonable and stuff. Props to you Hasan, the internet needs more people like you.

Edited by WakaDoDo, 15 January 2013 - 03:59 PM.


#33 Hasansabbat

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 03:39 PM

View PostImPKing, on 15 January 2013 - 04:42 AM, said:

Wow bro, you are a little late with this build.  I was posting on US blizz forum months ago showcasing endless bears.  Now we know where you got it from.

Well m8 your build & gearing choices arenowhere similar to mine. My build requires precise gearing and slow weapon.

And please, endless bear spamming means you only spam bears, you don’t use support attacks as spiders etc. It is a simple fact.

View PostImPKing, on 15 January 2013 - 04:42 AM, said:

You don't even kill the reflects in your video, not even the ez skeletons.  You just kill the white mobs and skip to the next. LOL


I’m pretty amazed on your comments for my vid. Either you were stoned or you were watching a different one.

View PostImPKing, on 15 January 2013 - 04:42 AM, said:

http://www.twitch.tv...stsc2/c/1791205

Here is a good reflect dmg video.   Extra health reflect dmg phase beast.


Gz on the kill it's not easy but gonna tell again that I don't find it amusing when a WD resorts for spiders etc. and no slam dance? pls share videos with your regular farm spec not useless builds which are inefficient.

View PostImPKing, on 15 January 2013 - 04:42 AM, said:

Here is a quote someone showed me about you trying to bash me on bnet forum
"Since when soloing ubers is a achievement? It's been months since i last did ubers.
http://www.twitch.tv...sc2/b/354108556
Watched this recent one. Your farming is painfully slow (not that anyone can call that farming) . 2XX k bear crits? Shows how bad your gearing & talents are. In my first free time I will be recording some MP10 runs. So hopefully I can avoid newcomers to be affected by ignorant guys like you"

I had no intention to bash you there I asked the guy to share his videos if his gearing/build is any good, he linked your video. I commented on that assuming the vid was his. Sorry about that. Also I'm wondering why have you taken that thread here instead of replying it on the original forum?

View PostImPKing, on 15 January 2013 - 04:42 AM, said:

Pathetic.  The funny part is that your crits aren't much higher than mine even when you have slam dance on.  When you watch my video, my crits go up to 900k without slam dance.  Also I am attacking faster sustained by more max mana/mana regen.   You have 20k more unbuffed dps, WOW.  That is so good!!... O wait your ehp is under 500k :(((

Well m8 that's where most of you guys are wrong, please read my guide and you will understand better. My lower crits are going to be 1.5-2 times more, while we are going to deal similar top damage (still my weapon with similar gear will do more). Thus Making my avarage dmg superior. It is really not so hard to understand.

I see you try to compare our toons. Please don't, we have hell of a difference. Don't compare DPS since it means nothing. But still, If you are wondering I have 225k Ub with 1.4 as. and it is in top50 in PVP dummy (which i think the most worthless comparison)

The one you inspect is my experimental gear although it's dps output is superior compared to my regular gear.


View PostImPKing, on 15 January 2013 - 04:42 AM, said:

Make a video of soloing mp10 uber PLZ


I was able to solo ubers months ago, no need to do that again. But now you say I wonder how fast I can do that so maybe I can make a vid for that too.

#34 lodftw

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 02:36 AM

is soj -charger costs worth it
EDIT: and should i go for manareg or cc zunimas helm?

Edited by lodftw, 17 January 2013 - 10:45 AM.


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Posted 18 January 2013 - 01:21 AM

@lodftw you may use it if you have enough defenses, but I also like the crit on my litany (got 55% cc ) so i use litany.

Btw gz to the guys who followed the guide and bought reduced from elites items, not only it gives perfect defense in PVE, but as me and few others have predicted it's gonna be working in pvp. It is bugged atm but they say they'll fix it you may read the blue in this forum.

http://us.battle.net...ic/7593741962#7

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 02:05 AM

View PostHasansabbat, on 18 January 2013 - 01:21 AM, said:

@lodftw you may use it if you have enough defenses, but I also like the crit on my litany (got 55% cc ) so i use litany.

Btw gz to the guys who followed the guide and bought reduced from elites items, not only it gives perfect defense in PVE, but as me and few others have predicted it's gonna be working in pvp. It is bugged atm but they say they'll fix it you may read the blue in this forum.

http://us.battle.net...ic/7593741962#7

I just meet you in PTR, I got killed instant. Anyway. You are on a stream later on: http://sv.twitch.tv/...den/b/357981982
See around 1h 18min 10 sec. The language is in Swedish, sorry bout that :)

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 08:41 AM

View PostEnkeria, on 18 January 2013 - 02:05 AM, said:

View PostHasansabbat, on 18 January 2013 - 01:21 AM, said:

@lodftw you may use it if you have enough defenses, but I also like the crit on my litany (got 55% cc ) so i use litany.

Btw gz to the guys who followed the guide and bought reduced from elites items, not only it gives perfect defense in PVE, but as me and few others have predicted it's gonna be working in pvp. It is bugged atm but they say they'll fix it you may read the blue in this forum.

http://us.battle.net...ic/7593741962#7

I just meet you in PTR, I got killed instant. Anyway. You are on a stream later on: http://sv.twitch.tv/...den/b/357981982
See around 1h 18min 10 sec. The language is in Swedish, sorry bout that :)

:) that's really fun to watch yourself from others perspective. I was testing a regular shield  in your game (no int/all ress on it etc), Btw  it seems like WD with shield is even more OP ^^

Can't wait them to fix reduced from elites affix so I get 14% extra reduction :P

Edited by Hasansabbat, 18 January 2013 - 08:42 AM.


#38 Enkeria

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 11:38 AM

View PostHasansabbat, on 18 January 2013 - 08:41 AM, said:

View PostEnkeria, on 18 January 2013 - 02:05 AM, said:

View PostHasansabbat, on 18 January 2013 - 01:21 AM, said:

@lodftw you may use it if you have enough defenses, but I also like the crit on my litany (got 55% cc ) so i use litany.

Btw gz to the guys who followed the guide and bought reduced from elites items, not only it gives perfect defense in PVE, but as me and few others have predicted it's gonna be working in pvp. It is bugged atm but they say they'll fix it you may read the blue in this forum.

http://us.battle.net...ic/7593741962#7

I just meet you in PTR, I got killed instant. Anyway. You are on a stream later on: http://sv.twitch.tv/...den/b/357981982
See around 1h 18min 10 sec. The language is in Swedish, sorry bout that :)

:) that's really fun to watch yourself from others perspective. I was testing a regular shield  in your game (no int/all ress on it etc), Btw  it seems like WD with shield is even more OP ^^

Can't wait them to fix reduced from elites affix so I get 14% extra reduction :P

Yeah, well the barb you meet and the dh was both pretty good in my opinion, I have weak gear on all my classes, which I leveled and are more into writing news on our swedish diablo 3 pvp site <<<. I wonder, do you have a build + small info on what to look for on AH (gear) for WD? I am currently searching for someone who knows WD very well for a PVP guide interview. Credit will be made to your account -or- website -or- other.

It would be appreciated!

Edited by Enkeria, 18 January 2013 - 11:38 AM.

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