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[07Ghost]

the square gem you can pick up in hell and inferno...it worth 5-6k gold a pop, yet other types only go for 200 gold...

i can't imagine ppl buy these and craft them to higher tiers...

and weren't sq emerald used to be like 1500 gold? wats the deal?

[Tjabapa]

All classes need crit damage and lately there was loads of accounts banned, so the supply is not there anymore. Meaning higher prices.

Edited by Tjabapa, 27 December 2012 - 12:01 PM.

[Bagstone]

Look at the price for radiant star (or lower but still high-tier) emeralds. You need 700-ish flawless square emeralds to craft one radiant star emerald, and ever since the price drop in October (when RS emeralds were worth ~5m) their cost is increasing. The tipping point was 15-16m (that's the pure crafting cost for a RS gem, without any cost for tomes/lower tier gems), and since emerald prices are still going up people decide it's worth the hundred clicks and 30 minutes of crafting, therefore prices for lower tier emeralds are going up as well.

[07Ghost]

Tjabapa, on 27 December 2012 - 11:58 AM, said:

All classes need crit damage and lately there was loads of accounts banned, so the supply is not there anymore. Meaning higher prices.

no, wat im saying is why would anyone buy the lower tier gems at this point and crafting them to higher tiers? does it even add up? i know before it was worth it cuz back then radiant emerald was like 30m and flawless square was only 1500 gold.

you can buy a radiant emerald for 22m on the ah, you don't even save anything crafting it urself.

[Temsen]

Are you US or EU?
EU right now: Flawless Square: 10k | Radiant Star: 28.5m | Tome of Secrets: 700g
So base cost for one: 23,831,700 gold and AH break even price: 28,037,996 gold
looks fine to me.
During the period of 30m-1.5k eihter the tomes costed a ton or it was highly profitably to craft them yourself, you decide.

[BornBadd]

I've wanted to know the exact price to craft myself (just haven't had the time to sit and do the math). Does anyone have/know of a chart showing this?

[Valaran]

I use http://www.d3gemcalc...lawless Square/

[JKlimek]

I just did this the other day and had to buy 300 gems in addition to the stuff I've farmed myself.  Why the F does it take 30 mins to do this?  ridiculous...

The combining cost of making these upper level gems should *always* be cheaper than buying them on the AH.  Anyone who sells them for less on the AH is either cheating (lower cost to make) or selling at a loss (and can't remain in business for long)

[Tjabapa]

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07Ghost, on 27 December 2012 - 12:10 PM, said:

Tjabapa, on 27 December 2012 - 11:58 AM, said:

All classes need crit damage and lately there was loads of accounts banned, so the supply is not there anymore. Meaning higher prices.

no, wat im saying is why would anyone buy the lower tier gems at this point and crafting them to higher tiers? does it even add up? i know before it was worth it cuz back then radiant emerald was like 30m and flawless square was only 1500 gold.

you can buy a radiant emerald for 22m on the ah, you don't even save anything crafting it urself.

I try to craft my own grand gems and sometimes I miss a few lower gems, so then I need to buy them.
But I would not buy them in hundreds. I will probably buy the big ones when I got the gem achievements and the gold.

[egervari]

JKlimek, on 27 December 2012 - 01:48 PM, said:

I just did this the other day and had to buy 300 gems in addition to the stuff I've farmed myself.  Why the F does it take 30 mins to do this?  ridiculous...

The combining cost of making these upper level gems should *always* be cheaper than buying them on the AH.  Anyone who sells them for less on the AH is either cheating (lower cost to make) or selling at a loss (and can't remain in business for long)

That's not necessary true. If the demand for something goes down, it doesn't matter how much it takes to craft it. If most of the player base already has all of the perfect emeralds they need, it makes perfect sense that excess perfect emeralds will cost less than the craft cost. The more emeralds in existence, the less they are going to be worth due to demand - damn "production costs".

[07Ghost]

Temsen, on 27 December 2012 - 12:23 PM, said:

Are you US or EU?
EU right now: Flawless Square: 10k | Radiant Star: 28.5m | Tome of Secrets: 700g
So base cost for one: 23,831,700 gold and AH break even price: 28,037,996 gold
looks fine to me.
During the period of 30m-1.5k eihter the tomes costed a ton or it was highly profitably to craft them yourself, you decide.

i'm on the us server. right now radiant emerald is 21m on the AH. flawless square emerald is 5800, and tome is 720 gold. if you buy every materials going from flawless square to radiant stars, using the calculators, you would save only around 350k gold. *this is also without counting the jeweler's plan.

http://www.d3gemcalc...lawless Square/

i'm certain at this point there's no profit to be made for crafting the gems yourself and trying to sell them on ah. after 15% cut, u lose money. so why go through all those clicking and process getting all the materials just to save 350k gold?

EU gems and items prices are more expensive cuz gold worth less there. 1m = .25 euro. while on the us right now, 1m = .38 dollar.

Edited by 07Ghost, 27 December 2012 - 09:46 PM.

[JKlimek]

That's not a sustainable resource though.  The number of flawless squares is unlimited since they spawn indefinitely.  The number of perfect emeralds that people are willing to sell at a loss is a much smaller number if they were obtained through the only legal method (crafting them).  The supply curve for this item should have an absolute minimum cost = the crafting cost and in a perfect market, the supply for selling perfect gems under that cost = 0.

How many people do you know that have dozens of perfect emeralds that just quit and are looking to offload them for gold anyway? (give them my battletag )