Bagstone, on 11 December 2012 - 12:09 PM, said:
orangedrop, on 11 December 2012 - 11:30 AM, said:
Huminator, on 09 December 2012 - 08:40 AM, said:
CherubDown, on 09 December 2012 - 07:42 AM, said:
Also, MP0 is much worse on loot, so I go minimum MP1.
Don't spread false information please.
its not false information. act 1 and 2 aside on mp0, I had ran a dozen of test mp0 and mp1 act 3. the rare count is higher on mp1. in mp0 u get 1-2 rare per elite minimum where on mp1 u get 2-3, very rarely u will only get 1 like in mp0.
strangely enough on my test run. mp0 keeps dropping plans for some reason. I had 6-7 totals in 10 mp0 runs and only 2-3 on mp1. legendaries are pretty even, I actually got more in mp0 but the difference is so minimal that it people shouldn't read so much into it.
MP1 has 1% chance of dropping an additional rare, so your estimate of 1-2 rares (MP0) vs 2-3 rares (MP1) is simply not true, it's - like Huminator says - spreading false information, based on luck/subjective perception/whatever.
One more time: read the magic find thread. If you think there's something wrong, do a proper test yourself (collecting lots of data and not just a dozen of runs, and keep track of all numbers accordingly and not "1-2 vs 2-3 drops"). But don't spread false information.
Your second paragraph makes it look even more ridiculous - the numbers you properly counted are contradicting your theory, but that's supposed to be luck, so "don't read so much into it". Hilarious.
i did collect the data yes it is only a dozen of runs. but where is your proof that all these are false information? I had to at least made an extra run to town to ID and clear out the bags on mp1 consistently, i pick up all items. All my runs are consistent, keep 1-3, the two towers, core of arreat, and the cave in field of slaughter. unless I keep getting goblins on mp1 my data suggest mp1 drops more rare quality loot, no i didnt count the goblins, each run should have 1 chest on ice cavern/cavern of frost, maybe another one in keep depth 1 or 2. Perhaps I should record how many elites as well in each run. But from just item count and observation I still concludes mp1 is better than mp0.
I am curious where you get the 1% additional rare comes from too, have you run the test yourself? is that posted on official guide? mf has been proven again and again that it doesn't yield additional items, before paragon was introduced a extensive goblin run was tested. 200 over runs and the total drop number is relatively the same, regardless of 0% 100% 200% mf, just u get more rares and blues as your mf move up. blizzard has listed this on official game guide too, mf merely bumping up the quality of items, so more blues/whites can be yellow but the number of items drop would be relatively the same. again i farm keys on mp 6-7. without full stack, elites consistently chuck 2-4 rares please do not tell me that merely coincidence and I should stop spreading false rumor? go try it yourself~ you will be lucky to see 2-3 rares on mp0 without full stack, same with chest and goblins. go open or kill them before full stack on mp0 and all you see are mostly blue. do it on higher mp u can see at least 1.
contradicting the number of my count? on what? the legendary or the plan? regarding the plan. the test were done back to back. all mp0 10 times, plan just keep dropping, yes I counted this as rares. I bet some of you has the same experience, rings keep dropping when usually u havent seen one in awhile, back to back runs with exact same legendary drop. how can that be RNG? when there is sooo many legendary to drop and u get multiple ones on the same day.
as for the legendary in 10 runs mp0 yield me 5 legendary, mp1 yield 3. the difference is only 2 in 10 runs thats why i said you should not read into it. but mp1 consistently yield me 1/2-1 bag of rares. I ran mp3 farm the previous weeks, again i observe mp3 consistently more yellow drop compared to mp0 from each elite, goblin and chest. And runnings those 20 runs actually yield me more legendaries than farming mp3 all week the week before if you want to use that against me. But speaking purely yellows mp0 yield less on my runs.