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[TheMorph]

Can someone tell me exactly why Echoing Fury is so good for a WW bard? Furthermore it seems barbs go for the obvious +crit chance +crit damage – but when you’re a rick dude, you also go for ISA, why? I haven’t yet figured out why everyone want a dagger in offhand, why everyone want attackspeed for WW?

Can some cut this out in papir for me so even I get it? To me it seems the damage on the weapon is only diminishing as you get it fast ..

[WNxManiacMan]

TheMorph, on 06 December 2012 - 09:23 AM, said:

... but when you’re a rick dude, you also go for ISA, why? ...

Do you mean "rich" and "IAS"? If not, then I have no fucking idea what you're saying

[agadabagada]

attackspeed directly relates to more ticks per second, thus more fury generation. Also, the higher your attackspeed, the faster u expend fury, allowing u to keep perma bezerk up easier

fury management becomes more volatile but it superior

Edited by agadabagada, 06 December 2012 - 10:15 AM.

[pappamask]

agadabagada, on 06 December 2012 - 10:15 AM, said:

attackspeed directly relates to more ticks per second

More ticks per second also gives higher dps, afaik..

Edited by pappamask, 06 December 2012 - 10:47 AM.

[TheMorph]

ticks per second from tonados or ww?

yes i ment Rich dude hehe

So basicly the best weapon on earth for a WW bard is echoing fury? due to its a mace and it is rather fast?

how much difference is there in having a dagger offhand 1.5 over a 1.3? what does the offhand affect? How important is the dmg of the offhand?

I mean as your weapon gets faster the damage go down. Seems to me you get more ticks but they do less damage .. more or less the same when it comes to dmg?

Edited by TheMorph, 06 December 2012 - 11:56 AM.

[Ashes]

Check http://eu.battle.net...opic/4902400739 for a bit more detailed explanation of IAS for WW/Tornado builds.

[sarge26]

You might want to check this as well, that's some interesting test for real. http://diablo.incgam...se-a-toothbrush

[TheMorph]

sarge26, on 06 December 2012 - 12:47 PM, said:

You might want to check this as well, that's some interesting test for real. http://diablo.incgam...se-a-toothbrush

Ashes, on 06 December 2012 - 11:42 AM, said:

Check http://eu.battle.net...opic/4902400739 for a bit more detailed explanation of IAS for WW/Tornado builds.

Oki Thanks - Wonderful how these two have a different aspect of the WW bard. One says IAS/APS has everything to do with damage. Other one says it has nothing to do with IAS/APS at all .. so now, i guess, we have to pick one we think is right. if IAS has nothing to do with it. then IAS is actually gimping us since IAS on a mainhand decrease it damage... hmmm

[waszi]

Optimal setup for a WW barb is slow mace in main hand (for max dmg range) and Echoing Fury offhand to make that main faster. You then have both weapons with 1.45 aps which is important, cause your nados always tick the same amount of times (remember ww alternates hands).
Then you go for at least +33 attack speed on gear (for example 9+9+9+6) for 2.5 aps breakpoint (buffed with berserk) - 26 ticks.