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[RTG_Sibcoe]

Hey D3 Fans:

I wanted to share with you a video on the state of Diablo 3, done in an interview/discussion format.  Check out part 1:



Let us know what you think of the current state of the game, and join in for part 2, when we discuss class specifics.  

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[woodballs]

I agree with a lot of what y'all talked about.

I never played D2, but I browse these forums a lot and I know that the more dedicated Diablo fans were really disappointed with how far off D3 was. It was helpful, from my perspective, to hear the actually differences and reasons discussed in detail.

Thanks!

[Ducha]

woodballs, on 04 December 2012 - 12:28 AM, said:

I know that the more dedicated Diablo fans were really disappointed with how far off D3 was.

The more dedicated fans? I think you mean the fans that cry and whine about not getting the best game in the universe. The more dedicated fans are the ones that may have been disappointed but still stay to this day and will keep playing. If you stopped playing because it's too different from Diablo 2 then good riddance.

[overneathe]

I'm not a dedicated fan? :<

[Ishxan]

Good discussion.

Wanted to shoot myself every time you pronounced rune as ruinword...

[RTG_Sibcoe]

Ishxan, on 04 December 2012 - 05:01 AM, said:

Good discussion.

Wanted to shoot myself every time you pronounced rune as ruinword...

haha lol, I never heard that one before.  I grew up in Ireland, so I have a weird accent.  Thanks for watching   Cheers 0/

[Ducha]

overneathe, on 04 December 2012 - 03:46 AM, said:

I'm not a dedicated fan? :<

Ok maybe I worded that a tad bad!

[overneathe]

Ducha, on 04 December 2012 - 07:59 AM, said:

overneathe, on 04 December 2012 - 03:46 AM, said:

I'm not a dedicated fan? :<

Ok maybe I worded that a tad bad!

It was more of a reply to the OP. :>

[maka]

Ducha, on 04 December 2012 - 12:37 AM, said:

woodballs, on 04 December 2012 - 12:28 AM, said:

I know that the more dedicated Diablo fans were really disappointed with how far off D3 was.

The more dedicated fans? I think you mean the fans that cry and whine about not getting the best game in the universe. The more dedicated fans are the ones that may have been disappointed but still stay to this day and will keep playing. If you stopped playing because it's too different from Diablo 2 then good riddance.

...what?

Gotta love that bit in bold.


On the video: I share most of the views expressed on it. From the poor loot throughout the game, to the ever-present AH, to the degeneration of this game into a glorified spreadsheet.

Edited by maka, 04 December 2012 - 03:41 PM.

[DerpySkulls]

As I am listening to your video, I have to agree with everything you guys say. One of the biggest problems with Diablo 3 is the team working on Diablo it self because they are not experienced in ARPGs, also fuck jay wilson. Another thing that made Diablo 2 a great game was the stats you could add every level and the skill trees.

Also keep this in mind though Diablo 2 had its share of problems; however, they were addressed over time and Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction is when the game shined the most. But you know what? Diablo 2 before the Lord of Destruction was still in a better shape than Diablo 3.

edit:

ALMOST FORGOT ABOUT THIS! The quests holy shit man, the quests in Diablo 1, Diablo 2, Diablo 2: Lord of Destruction, they all gave unique rewards in terms of items, gems/runes (hell forge runs), consumable scroll that increased resistances. In Diablo 3 they give us gold.......

The fucking horadric cube niggas! need I explain more!?

Edited by DerpySkulls, 04 December 2012 - 04:10 PM.

[gallaghd]

hmmm. interesting perspective. I fell away from diablo 2 as i was in high school and didn't have time. Maybe i need to revisit to make my own judgement.

I do have to say that Diablo 3 is not "finished" and a good fan base than continues to challenge the engineers is pretty unique and awesome. My advice: don't give up on the game continue with the constructive feedback and changes will happen. Nice review.

My biggest gripe doesnt compare to what you guys are talking about....I just am pissed that they have fear proc on EF. WTF WTF

[RTG_Sibcoe]

Thanks for all the replies.  I will continue to play and cover D3 - love the franchise, but felt it was important to get these ideas out.  Fair criticism etc to help improve the game.  More coming in part 2, and we fixed the audio   Cheers 0/

[Ducha]

maka, on 04 December 2012 - 02:58 PM, said:

Ducha, on 04 December 2012 - 12:37 AM, said:

woodballs, on 04 December 2012 - 12:28 AM, said:

I know that the more dedicated Diablo fans were really disappointed with how far off D3 was.

The more dedicated fans? I think you mean the fans that cry and whine about not getting the best game in the universe. The more dedicated fans are the ones that may have been disappointed but still stay to this day and will keep playing. If you stopped playing because it's too different from Diablo 2 then good riddance.

...what?

Gotta love that bit in bold.


On the video: I share most of the views expressed on it. From the poor loot throughout the game, to the ever-present AH, to the degeneration of this game into a glorified spreadsheet.

Okay I've read what I posted a couple of times and yes what I said was a bit silly. I'm not even going to tryr and say it again because I'll probably just make it worse haha

[RTG_Sibcoe]

Hey all - Part 2 will be up in a few hours.  We discuss State of Diablo 3 classes.  Looking forward to your thoughts and ideas on it.  Cheers 0/

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[Ryude]

I agree to a point, but I'd like to see Diablo 3 become great for it's own reasons. I will always have great memories of playing D2, but if I wanted to play D2 again that's what I would do. I want to play D3, but I admit that it has it's faults. I think Torchlight 2 offered a lot more unique and fun moments.

[Hans]

Ducha, on 04 December 2012 - 12:37 AM, said:

woodballs, on 04 December 2012 - 12:28 AM, said:

I know that the more dedicated Diablo fans were really disappointed with how far off D3 was.

The more dedicated fans? I think you mean the fans that cry and whine about not getting the best game in the universe. The more dedicated fans are the ones that may have been disappointed but still stay to this day and will keep playing. If you stopped playing because it's too different from Diablo 2 then good riddance.

I stay away from D3 because it is not a good game at the moment. D2 was not perfect but at least it was very fun for me. And if you include the mods for D2 then I have had even more fun.

The item hunt is really boring in D3. The combat part is alright but the rewards are just not worth it. In D2 you got tonnes of garbage but there was a lot more variety in the affixes for gear and sometimes those items will make an interesting build. I found when Playing D3 the items are just stat sticks to boost damage, life, etc. Why bother with the hunt when you can just buy from the AH. I found with D3 after finishing Normal with one character the enjoyment went away. I never got the feeling of losing the track of time when playing. Matter of fact it was almost the opposite it felt like I was playing the game longer than I was.

Part of being a dedicated fan is to express your feelings for the game both good and bad. A dedicated fan does not have to continue to play the game if they do not like the game but loved the other games.

Edited by Hans, 05 December 2012 - 06:53 PM.

[GamersTales]

I really enjoyed part 1 good work! Hope you keep them coming.

From a casual D & D2 player it's interesting to hear how the more hardcore player base took those previous games to the next level and got much more entertainment out of them. In turn it really does show whats lacking in D3 to make it feel so stale after 200 odd hours.

[Taisto]

DerpySkulls, on 04 December 2012 - 04:05 PM, said:

One of the biggest problems with Diablo 3 is the team working on Diablo it self because they are not experienced in ARPGs, also fuck jay wilson.

Well I'd say they are doing one hell of a good job. Diablo 3 is still 3rd most played RPG after WOW, and a little behind GW. I've been playing since launch and I still really enjoy playing the game even with pvp not out yet. But I agree that there are many things that could use improvements and polishing. Luckily they are still working to make improvements so we know they are coming at some point. Imo people should keep giving more constructive feedback. I'm quite tired of every gaming forum of any game most of the posts are just whining and not giving any real feedback. Hopefully that would change at some point so it would be fun to read forums and see different ideas and improvements people come up with.

EDIT: forgot to ask from the OP that you said you wanted end game content. What end game content you would want because I'm not sure what would people want to add? You said that not MMOPRG type of content but then what would you want? For me, I enjoy the farming and killing ubers (and maybe pvp when it comes) which I think is the end game of diablo

Edited by Taisto, 05 December 2012 - 08:59 PM.

[RTG_Sibcoe]

Ryude, on 05 December 2012 - 12:48 PM, said:

I agree to a point, but I'd like to see Diablo 3 become great for it's own reasons. I will always have great memories of playing D2, but if I wanted to play D2 again that's what I would do. I want to play D3, but I admit that it has it's faults. I think Torchlight 2 offered a lot more unique and fun moments.

This is an excellent point that I agree with 100%

[AudioCG]

All Blizzard needs to focus on (after PvP) is Crafting, bring back the Mystic and socketing, possibly tweak the elemental properties of the gear. (maybe buff the lesser affixes for itemization) Also, take all of the lower level Legendary's, and have a Inferno scaled version ilvl61+.

As far as end game goes, once they have PvP, Diablo 3 will have faaaaaaaar more end game then any other Diablo game ever made.

If they want to be super awesome, they could add a "Endless dungeon" in Act 4, but that would require a lot of work.

Edited by AudioCG, 05 December 2012 - 09:13 PM.