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[Jaetch]

Sped video up by 300%. Also, sorry about the eye cancer-inducing quality. I ripped this off of my Twitch stream, which is pure poop quality (please set to 720p to reduce eye cancer spread rate).

I was experimenting with the following setup on MP0:

31% EXP bonus from ruby
30% EXP bonus from Cain's set
35% EXP bonus from Hellfire Ring
25% EXP bonus from Leoric's Signet
7% EXP bonus from follower's Hellfire Ring
4% EXP bonus from follower's Leoric's Signet
75% EXP bonus from NV stacks

Starting time 5:03 p.m. EST
Ending time 6:03 p.m. EST

EXP start point: 94,970,857
EXP end point: 175,596,324

Total EXP per hour: 80,625,467

Stats are shown in the video (text crawl), build (standard Scramble-port Archon) and EXP items are shown in the beginning.

Warning: Very, very repetitive and boring. And yes, this isn't ideal for everyone (nor is it truly recommended), but it is possible.

Edited by Jaetch, 02 December 2012 - 11:43 PM.

[Keiser]

Haha you answered the challenge and succeeded.  Nice.

[Psychatog]

Wow tryhard! But they say try hard win hard, and thats what you did, so grats! Very cool, I should have been doing this the whole time instead of my current strat. I see were both 95 but I bet youve put SIGNIFICANTLY less time into leveling than me if this was your strat from the get go. Now I dont think its worth buying a cains set with good stats and O's / 2 leorics signets just for the last 5 levels, but great for anyone under level 80 with the funds available. For the record the highest possible bonus xp is 214. He is missing 2% from follower and 5% from lerorics signet

Edited by Psychatog, 01 December 2012 - 11:50 PM.

[Bagstone]

Psychatog, on 01 December 2012 - 11:46 PM, said:

Wow tryhard! But they say try hard win hard, and thats what you did, so grats! Very cool, I should have been doing this the whole time instead of my current strat. I see were both 95 but I bet youve put SIGNIFICANTLY less time into leveling than me if this was your strat from the get go. Now I dont think its worth buying a cains set with good stats and O's / 2 leorics signets just for the last 5 levels, but great for anyone under level 80 with the funds available. For the record the highest possible bonus xp is 214. He is missing 2% from follower and 5% from lerorics signet

Well, he said "I was experimenting" - I doubt that he did this all the way to 95. I don't think you can do this all the way to 95, if you're mentally sane. If you do, you will probably become insane by doing this 24/7. Like he said - it's very very boring.

I think this is more a proof of concept. Cain's set sacrifices too much DPS; you could go to MP1 or MP2 and get more loot, better chance for keys on your run and also a bit more XP (though not as much as with Cain) in exchange, rather than running around in gimped 30's gear.

Even Leoric's is kind of an open question. Let's say you have Ruby, Hellfire on you plus follower, and NV5 => 148 bonus XP, i.e., 248% XP from a mob. Adding a 25% Leoric's (30% are insanely overpriced) will give you 173% bonus = 273% XP per kill. That is an actual 10% increase. So if you lose more than 10% DPS by switching to Leoric's (and I do), it's probably not worth it.

Anyways, very nice video. I wonder however what you could improve to get to the 110m presented by other builds, e.g., tempest rush monks or WW barbs? Or are they just that much faster?

Edited by Bagstone, 02 December 2012 - 12:17 AM.

[Jaetch]

As soon as I'm done converting this video (trying to shrink it down to 5-10 minutes in length for easier upload), I'll give other builds a try, namely AOE ones (1-click Blizzard, for example).

Bagstone, on 02 December 2012 - 12:16 AM, said:

I wonder however what you could improve to get to the 110m presented by other builds, e.g., tempest rush monks or WW barbs? Or are they just that much faster?

I doubt wizards or WDs can hit 110M EXP per hour. The intel classes simply don't move fast enough. I think it could be possible when paired with a highly-geared barb as a teammate, using Forced March to basically stomp through the entire run. That's the only way I think it could be possible.

[Keiser]

Basically we need -cooldown on teleport.  5 sec CD wormhole would be nice.  Scramble and illusionist both rely on being hit, and ideally you should melt everything instantly, making those counterproductive.

[Bagstone]

Blizzard just doesn't want to go back to D2, where sorceresses could just teleport to infinity. However, for some stupid reason they took not only this ability away from us, but buffed other classes with other insane speed spells.

[Atuad]

Very impressive. Most impressive sir.

[Atuad]

Or mam. Not to be rude!

[Googlemebra]

The warning said it is very very boring, but i must disagree. I originally played monk, then ww barb, now wizard and nothing compares in terms of face melting and stuff dying so quick.

What kind of stats do you see as a minimum to run this? In terms of dps while wearing all that low gear. My wizard is extremely fresh and id like to catch up to my grouping buddies asap. Also followed in case more to come on your stream.

[Jaetch]

Added YouTube video.

[kraal]

@OP: I'm very curious about the stats you can maintain while wearing Cain's set and Leoric.

Keiser, on 02 December 2012 - 12:52 PM, said:

Basically we need -cooldown on teleport.  5 sec CD wormhole would be nice.  Scramble and illusionist both rely on being hit, and ideally you should melt everything instantly, making those counterproductive.

We have oculus (-4) and Evocation (~-2). Both working with wormhole.
Scramble has very good uptime in a blizzard rush build as mobs die in 2-3s depending on DPS so you graze them a lot.

I've tried illusionnist, but it's too risky to graze mobs at the same time to use Scramble.

[Jaetch]

kraal, on 02 December 2012 - 11:22 PM, said:

@OP: I'm very curious about the stats you can maintain while wearing Cain's set and Leoric.

Keiser, on 02 December 2012 - 12:52 PM, said:

Basically we need -cooldown on teleport.  5 sec CD wormhole would be nice.  Scramble and illusionist both rely on being hit, and ideally you should melt everything instantly, making those counterproductive.

We have oculus (-4) and Evocation (~-2). Both working with wormhole.
Scramble has very good uptime in a blizzard rush build as mobs die in 2-3s depending on DPS so you graze them a lot.

I've tried illusionnist, but it's too risky to graze mobs at the same time to use Scramble.

The important stats are in the video (text crawl repeating throughout the video). 250K buffed DPS (Sparkflint, Blood Magic, Enchantress) and 49K HP was what I ran with.

[Dex__]

Thank you Jaetch!

[Reev]

hey! what is the minimun dps (pure dps/cc/cd) to work with this archon's build?

[Loroese]

Reev, on 09 December 2012 - 05:33 PM, said:

hey! what is the minimun dps (pure dps/cc/cd) to work with this archon's build?

The higher dps the better, but you can run MP0 reasonably efficiently with 80-100k dps or so. How you get there doesn't matter since Archon scales directly with char sheet dps so feel free to stack CC and CD since CD is fairly cheap compared to IAS.

[Jaetch]

Averaged 83M over the final paragon run for my wizard.



Ding!

[Loroese]

Grats! I'm not even up to lvl 50 yet.

[ArcaneWeapon]

Huge gratz Jaetch!

[Bagstone]

Gratz Jaetch! And a legendary on the p100... was it at least a nice one or crap?

And btw, this is MP0, why not MP3 or 4? So much faster even for you?