ruksak, on 28 November 2012 - 07:45 AM, said:
GroentjeBE, on 28 November 2012 - 07:04 AM, said:
First of all, it's your money, you worked for it. Sounds to me Trail might be young kid hating on the more 'adult' players for beeing able to put money in the game. Anyways... @ the end of the line you choose what to do with your money...
I wouldn't make that assumption. Many old school RPG'ers like myself frown on short-cuts, no matter what your excuse is
. I work too, only part time but I own several rental properties that consume much of my time, not to mention being a single father.
No matter what your excuse is... well, there here's my excuse:
I waited for Diablo 3 for years. Then Diablo 3 release date was just exactly at a time where I couldn't play for 3 months. When I started playing mid-September, all my friends with whom I played Diablo 1+2 for 15 years and waited eagerly for D3, were already geared up and started progress on paragon levels. They had piled up some gear for me, but it wasn't really enough to even survive in Inferno. Since they have more time than I do, I would have never been able to catch up with them. So, I ended up spending some real money (D'OH!) to close the gear gap - but only a bit to get some gold and not a big amount of money.
If I hadn't done this, I just wouldn't be playing today, because the only time I played D2 was with them, and it's the same for D3. Given that I just don't have the time to farm all that stuff, there was no other way (remember, they play more hours/week than I do). However, I only did this shortly after I hit 60 and ever since then, I haven't put any real money into the game and don't intend to do so - I even thought about cashing out to get my money back, but to be honest, I don't care.
ruksak, on 28 November 2012 - 07:45 AM, said:
True pride in your character can only be achieved by doing it 'the old fashioned way'. By purchasing gold/items, you have chosen a shortcut, you have chosen to bypass effort and cut straight to the quick with your wallet.
In seconds, you achieve what takes me weeks, even months to reach.
It is your own business how you game, as well, how you achieve prominence in-game. But do not pretend that there is any sense of pride to be gleamed from a bought character.
Actually, I agree with all that progress thing and that it's nice to spend weeks in order to achieve something. However, in my personal opinion, "pride" is the wrong word. In the end, whether you spend a lot of time or money, it's either of that which lets you achieve something in D3. I don't feel any pride about that. In the end, I know that if I play a certain amount of time, I'm gonna find some items that I can sell or wear myself as an upgrade. I don't know how to describe the feeling, but "pride" sounds wrong to me. It does feel good to find a nice item, but I think for me it's more like playing the lottery and winning it; and of course I wouldn't be proud about that. When in our group one of us is on a bad streak and doesn't get any legendary drops, we even cross our fingers that this person gets a nice item drop soon, because we all know how it feels if you play for several hours/days and don't get a legendary. Therefore, I would treat the RMAH and the pride discussion separately here.
On the topic, what's my personal opinion about this (as someone who once used the RMAH but quit the RMAH business weeks ago):
1) I was a student once and would have loved the opportunity to get money out of the time that I invested in the game. Therefore, if someone has the money and buys stuff, it only helps those "poor students", I like that.
2) Some people buy stupid games for 60 bucks every month, play it for 5-10 hours (complete campaign once) and throw them away. If you play a game for years, why not spend the same money on that game and just treat it like "instead of buying Call of Duty #58374, let's put that money in the game that actually has some new content every now and then". In D2, I never used any trading (I only played and traded with my friends, so within our group we always played "self-found") - but I spent actual money because we run out of storage space and bought some more D2 keys... it was also nice as host for games, using a shared stash among our friends, or a separate account if someone who didn't own D2 wanted to play with us on a night when they came over.
3) Like Küken and Cryomatic said, D3 is not competitive (it will never be an e-sports game, even when PvP arrives, just like Blizzard recently announced). In a non-competitive game, and especially in a game which involves so much luck like D3, I don't see why real money would be considered cheating. IMHO, there's not much difference between using the AH and the RMAH, but it's just my personal view.
Edited by Bagstone, 28 November 2012 - 02:10 PM.