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[HEET1330]

Does anyone know if Blizz plans to let players play mulit player in Mp levels ? Or is there something that we need to adjust in options for this ?

Edited by HEET1330, 27 November 2012 - 09:49 PM.

[KageKaze]

You can use Monster Power in multiplayer... Heck I've even got a YouTube series going on right now with 4 of us goofing around in MP10.  You just can't use Monster Power in PUBLIC games.   You have to make your party first then you can make a game with whatever MP you want.

Just make sure you turn on Monster Power in your Options -> Gameplay menu.

Edited by KageKaze, 27 November 2012 - 10:00 PM.

[Jaetch]

KageKaze, on 27 November 2012 - 09:59 PM, said:

You can use Monster Power in multiplayer... Heck I've even got a YouTube series going on right now with 4 of us goofing around in MP10.  You just can't use Monster Power in PUBLIC games.   You have to make your party first then you can make a game with whatever MP you want.

Just make sure you turn on Monster Power in your Options -> Gameplay menu.

[HEET1330]

Ah yeah that is what i meant public games to MP levels. Are they going to open this or not ?

[Jaetch]

HEET1330, on 27 November 2012 - 10:27 PM, said:

Ah yeah that is what i meant public games to MP levels. Are they going to open this or not ?

I wish, but then they'll have to create a lobby where people can see which games are for which MP (but then I guess they could also just implement the option of selecting MP on the public listing and join that way). Still, it'll be much better than what we have for pubs now.

Currently, I just join pub games to donate items I don't need/can't sell. Would be nice to make pub games legit again.

[maka]

Jaetch, on 27 November 2012 - 10:47 PM, said:

HEET1330, on 27 November 2012 - 10:27 PM, said:

Ah yeah that is what i meant public games to MP levels. Are they going to open this or not ?

I wish, but then they'll have to create a lobby where people can see which games are for which MP (but then I guess they could also just implement the option of selecting MP on the public listing and join that way). Still, it'll be much better than what we have for pubs now.

Currently, I just join pub games to donate items I don't need/can't sell. Would be nice to make pub games legit again.

When you click 'Join Public Game', a window pops up asking "Which MP do you want to use?".

/problem

[Stormz]

when they do they are going to have limit some how, something like have to complete the previous mp level before you can do a public game in the next. similar as  nm, hell, inferno are unlocked.

[HEET1330]

Will I hope they do. Because I want to play with other mates. Not just solo around all the time. Cause MP0 sucks really. Have to take off good gear put on crap MF gear. I prefer to use my good stuff and have same MF.

[maka]

HEET1330, on 27 November 2012 - 11:38 PM, said:

Will I hope they do. Because I want to play with other mates. Not just solo around all the time. Cause MP0 sucks really. Have to take off good gear put on crap MF gear. I prefer to use my good stuff and have same MF.

What are you talking about? You can play MP1+ with whomever you want (your mates). You just can't join public games.

[Jaetch]

maka, on 27 November 2012 - 11:00 PM, said:

Jaetch, on 27 November 2012 - 10:47 PM, said:

HEET1330, on 27 November 2012 - 10:27 PM, said:

Ah yeah that is what i meant public games to MP levels. Are they going to open this or not ?

I wish, but then they'll have to create a lobby where people can see which games are for which MP (but then I guess they could also just implement the option of selecting MP on the public listing and join that way). Still, it'll be much better than what we have for pubs now.

Currently, I just join pub games to donate items I don't need/can't sell. Would be nice to make pub games legit again.

When you click 'Join Public Game', a window pops up asking "Which MP do you want to use?".

/problem

Oh, I despise pop-ups.

[maka]

Jaetch, on 28 November 2012 - 12:38 AM, said:

maka, on 27 November 2012 - 11:00 PM, said:

Jaetch, on 27 November 2012 - 10:47 PM, said:

HEET1330, on 27 November 2012 - 10:27 PM, said:

Ah yeah that is what i meant public games to MP levels. Are they going to open this or not ?

I wish, but then they'll have to create a lobby where people can see which games are for which MP (but then I guess they could also just implement the option of selecting MP on the public listing and join that way). Still, it'll be much better than what we have for pubs now.

Currently, I just join pub games to donate items I don't need/can't sell. Would be nice to make pub games legit again.

When you click 'Join Public Game', a window pops up asking "Which MP do you want to use?".

/problem

Oh, I despise pop-ups.

Fine; then, right next to the 'Join Public Game' button, there's a drop-down list (like the one in 'Change Quest') that allows you to change MP level.

/unnecessary problem

[tychoblu]

I think the problem here is that, with all public games being level 0 = you never meet new people.  Why would you join a public game if you're geared.

LFG chat is dead.

It would be bad if people creating random groups games could make up what ever mp level they wanted.  PLZ HLP MEZ, WUG WUG WUG WUG WUG WUG WUG WUG WUG WUG...just like back in D2.

[Hazy]

To quote Lylirra,

Quote

It doesn't work for Public Games. If Monster Power is on, you cannot make your game public. Similarly, when making a public game, Monster Power is disabled.

As you've noted, there are a few issues with allowing MP in Public Games:

• In general, harder content tends to be less enjoyable with random strangers.*
  
• It would make matchmaking more difficult by increasing the number of matchmaking pools (one new pool for each MP level). In turn, that could increase wait times.
  
• Issues associated with "leeching" or similar behavior could be exacerbated, especially if under-geared players chose extremely high Monster Power levels for the games they wanted to be matched into.

Although we love and support co-op, since Monster Power is a new system, we didn't want to open it up to Public Games just yet. We're definitely open to revisiting that idea down the road, though.

*Your mileage may vary.

Source: http://us.battle.net...12205?page=2#30

Don't hold your breath if your expecting them to implement this for public games, it wont happen.**


** My opinion

Edited by Hazy, 28 November 2012 - 02:05 AM.

[maka]

That Lylirra quote is ridiculous. The people that play MP1+ are out of that 'pool', anyway, since the only time they join MP0 public games is to give away gear, and the people that DO play MP0 public games will still do it because they're not geared to play above that (otherwise they'd be doing it).
Nonsense.

[Hazy]

I don't really understand what you are trying to say Maka, the bit about 'pool' you are talking about is nothing to do with difficulty but for the match making. And as the quote states, adding this will increase wait times.

[AsHeavenIsWide]

Public MP games will just annoy me with all the undergeared n00bs joining. Just like when Act 3 use to be annoying until you had decent gear.

[Bagstone]

Hazy, on 28 November 2012 - 02:02 AM, said:

Source: http://us.battle.net...12205?page=2#30

Don't hold your breath if your expecting them to implement this for public games, it wont happen.**


** My opinion

Oh, I wouldn't go there. Okay, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, so my guess is public games with MP will happen. Not in the near future though, for sure; but once the majority of players plays on higher MPs, Blizzard will do something about it.

Also, remember WoW and LFG. I would have never thought that could work out in the first place, and now you even can do the big raid instances with random people (don't play WoW anymore, never liked random groups in WoW, but just saying that Blizzard will find a way).

The 1st and 3rd problems are also just a matter of scale and applied to random games in Inferno 3-4 months ago, too. By now, every casual gamer can start a new barbarian, get it leveled to 60 by a friend in 2 hours, borrow 1-2 million gold, and steamroll (at least the lower) MP levels. If you have a decent amount of money, it takes you just a few hours from creating a new character to killing ubers in MP 5 - and exactly for ubers (on different MP levels) the public games feature would be awesome.