cdxliv, on 25 November 2012 - 09:10 AM, said:
So far for the record attempts DH cluster bomb is an absolute useless build
Sorry to say, but you're very wrong here. Im assuming you never played DH so ill try to break it down for you based on my gameplay for ubers and whatnot (While you are true in saying that Barb is the highest DPS overall, since cluster DH requires much more practice, aim and skill to land and do max dps without a CM Wiz than a HoTA barb). Grenadier and 2 Cluster reduction items turn cluster bombs into 30 hatred cost. That's 4 Clusters per full hatred bar. Prep Punishment adds another 4, each cluster critting for no less than 900k (Bear in mind, each cluster cast is 7 bombs, 7x8 = 56).
At 50% crit (This is obviously with SoJ in place of my current Hellfire which is 5.5% crit) and 560% CHD, noncrit clusters do over 100k, so let's just go by the fact that out of 7 bombs, 3 of them crit. That's 24 crits of 900k, 32 noncrits of 100k. 21.6mil dmg of crits alone, 3.2 mil dmg off noncrits. All of this at 1.8 Asp is shot in 4.4 seconds. That's 5.6 mil DPS if you do the math, and this is taking into account the worst case scenario.
After this, Grenades with Grenadier and Tinker with Bat pet refill a full hatred bar in 3.6 seconds, at which point you're already shooting clusters again with Prep (Legacy Nat's). Higher damage and whatnot can be achieved with a higher dps manticore and more AsP.
So that's average 3 mil dps on the worst case scenario, not counting pet or grenade damage. On an average case scenario it can get to over 3.5mil, which is a bit shy of your damage, which is also done i assume with full dps gear and Tyrael's might.
I'd hardly call the build useless when it's not even that far off your damage, and you're running some sick kit. Add the fact that a DH brings 12% extra damage to everyone through marked for death, and an extra 12% cleave from Grim Reaper, and it's already higher gDPS to bring a DH with my kit (Which is pretty good but shit weapon) over a HoTA Barb. Ideally you bring both with CM Wiz and Monk for the highest gDPS.
Not trying to disprove you or anything, as im fully aware a HoTA Barb is the highest solo and group dps in terms of individual player damage, while also being much easier to perfect and play at max potential than Cluster DH, just giving you a more clear view of DH so next time you wont state silly things like Cluster build being useless
Here's my kit for future reference: http://www.diablopro.../Fortuna/149095
As you can see, we both seem to have an adoration with running numbers and whatnot, as i actually spend time testing multiple skills, talents and whatnot (At the time of mine/kongor's/avoid's/Invis's WR build i was still using HA rather than nades, which is pretty...bad, excuse me on this one). Would be nice to be able to have intelligent discussions with someone, just a shame you're US.
Keep up the good streaming and hope to see a post soon coming from your group beating our Ubers Record. I want to try and re-beat it but Avoid keeps saying it's pointless until someone does
Cupcakes and teapots, cya arround.