How to get into the real high damage echelons
#1
Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:51 PM
The last time I asked, the basic advice was I needed to increase my intelligence. I have done so.
How do I get into the 100-200k damage range? I've seen builds with higher damage than I do, but with a weapon that does less damage and less intelligence.
Granted, my Crit change is pathetic. That's probably a good place to start. But how to know if a deal in the AH will increase damage?
#2
Posted 20 November 2012 - 10:02 PM
easy dps upgrades >
offhand > crit%
rings > crit% + CHD or ASI
amu > crit% + CHD
gloves > crit%+chd+asi (they're quite cheap by now, trifactors)
bracers > crit%
ofcourse, dont niglitiate INT
#3
Posted 20 November 2012 - 10:02 PM
You need crit damage and crit chance on your rings, on your neck, on your gloves. You can get 200 cd from a weap with crit damage and a socket. you can get 10% crit chance from your source. You can get up to 6 crit chance on a wizard head I think.. so yeah get that on everything. The more crit damage you have the more damage crit chance gives you and vice versa.
#4
Posted 20 November 2012 - 10:25 PM
hvgotcodes, on 20 November 2012 - 09:51 PM, said:
a) Use a spreadsheet, for example Loroese's EHP/DPS spreadsheet: http://www.diablofan...hp-spreadsheet/
b ) Use a damage calc, for example D3rawr: http://www.diablofan...omparison-tool/
c) This is what I do: go to d3up.com, create an account, import your character. Download tool from d3bit.com, connect with d3up account, switch game to windowed fullscreen mode, press F12 as soon as you see a nice item on the AH and figure out immediately how much ehp/dps exactly you win or lose.
Edit: how do you get to 100k dps? Get rid of magic find, life regeneration. Get crit chance, crit damage, but also don't forget to get a bit more EHP (namely allres in your case). Get a weapon with a socket and put an emerald in it. Get a helm with a socket to put a ruby in it and gain higher paragon levels more quickly. I agree with the previous posters that APS doesn't help you right now, especially given your spec.
Edited by Bagstone, 20 November 2012 - 10:34 PM.
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#5
Posted 20 November 2012 - 10:26 PM
Like others said, to increase dps really high you have to look to other dps stats besides Int. DPS increases exponentially with secondary dps stats because they are all multiplicative, so higher crit makes crit damage give more dps, makes Int give more dps, and makes IAS give more dps. Higher IAS makes all the other stats give more dps, etc. Crit and Crit damage are probably the best way to increase raw dps for your gold, since IAS is a bit pricey because CM wizards gobble them up.
EDIT: some pieces you can grab for some decent dps increase: Tal neck, Triumvirate OH. Tal chest will also raise char sheet dps but if you have AP problems with disintegrate it might not be as worthwhile. That's why I like Archon, you don't have to worry about resource management so anything that increases char sheet dps makes Archon tic for more.
Edited by Loroese, 20 November 2012 - 10:29 PM.
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#6
Posted 21 November 2012 - 12:08 AM
Yes, I was actually filling out your simple spread sheet. Oddly, when i put values in rows 8-9, columns E,F,G, the value doesn't change. Is it broken? (I downloaded it, not filling it out in the browser)
#7
Posted 21 November 2012 - 03:58 AM
hvgotcodes, on 21 November 2012 - 12:08 AM, said:
Yes, I was actually filling out your simple spread sheet. Oddly, when i put values in rows 8-9, columns E,F,G, the value doesn't change. Is it broken? (I downloaded it, not filling it out in the browser)
I'm assuming you're talking about the Equipped Items tab of my spreadsheet. In that case, no, it's not broken, there's just no stats that should be put in there, therefore there is no functionality for those boxes. Basically you should only need to enter info in the purple boxes. I think the socket for gloves works though, it's just not purple because I keep overlooking the 1 legendary glove that has sockets.
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#8
Posted 21 November 2012 - 05:20 AM
Helm - can roll attack speed and critical hit chance (Andariel's Visage or Mempo of Twilight)
Shoulder - just stack high int here (Vile Ward rolls the highest int)
Amulet - min/max damage, attack speed, critical hit chance, critical hit damage, high int can all roll here (Tal Rasha's Allegiance also rolls bonus elemental damage, so don't ignore that)
Rings - same as amulet, stack the same stats here
Glove - same as jewelry except for min/max damage, stack the rest of the stats here
Bracers - roll attack speed and critical hit chance (Lacuni Prowlers)
Belt - roll attack speed and critical hit damage (The Witching Hour)
Chest - can roll attack speed (Tal Rasha's Relentless Pursuit)
Pants - can roll attack speed and critical hit chance (Inna's Temperance)
Boots - usually stack high int here (Zunimassa's Trail rolls bonus elemental damage, so that's a fine choice)
Weapon - use 1-hand physical damage weapon (no bonus elemental) with critical hit damage and as high weapon damage as possible
Off-hand - min/max damage as high as possible, can run attack speed with Chantodo's Force or elemental bonus damage with Triumvirate, also grab as high critical hit chance as possible
For all the pieces, stack as much int as possible, if possible. Run a spreadsheet to check each and every upgrade (as mentioned above). And as mentioned, abandon your MF gear and run pure DPS/EHP.
For reference, http://www.diablopro...d/class.wizard/ note how everyone (including me) has almost exactly the same type of gear.
Edited by Jaetch, 21 November 2012 - 05:25 AM.

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#9
Posted 21 November 2012 - 11:29 AM
#10
Posted 21 November 2012 - 02:52 PM
NorikoNeko, on 21 November 2012 - 11:29 AM, said:
EU: http://www.diablopro...ed/class.wizard

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#12
Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:00 PM
But still,your items barely have 2 essential affixes on them,let alone high rolls of those. SO yea,i think you got work to do ;-)
#14
Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:50 PM
SolusCoda, on 21 November 2012 - 06:39 PM, said:
It represents ": for eyes," "3 for curled mouth."
:3 represents a supposedly cute animal pet thingie smile, such as that of a cat, puppy, hamster, and the like.
Not sure if you were being serious, but there you go.

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#15
Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:57 PM
Jaetch, on 21 November 2012 - 06:50 PM, said:
Well, I was having fun, but was also halfway serious. I actually didn't know that was supposed to be a squirrel creature. Learn something new everyday!
:3) <--big squirrel nose.
#16
Posted 21 November 2012 - 10:04 PM
Edited by hvgotcodes, 21 November 2012 - 10:26 PM.
#17
Posted 21 November 2012 - 10:51 PM
hvgotcodes, on 21 November 2012 - 10:04 PM, said:
Yeah, it assumes all sockets for a given item use the same gem, otherwise you can just put the average gem value if needed.
Yes, the comparison tab compares the stats of the item you put in the boxes to your equipped item of the same slot. There are two boxes so you can compare up to 2 items to your equipped item.
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#18
Posted 21 November 2012 - 11:28 PM
Loroese, on 21 November 2012 - 10:51 PM, said:
hvgotcodes, on 21 November 2012 - 10:04 PM, said:
Yeah, it assumes all sockets for a given item use the same gem, otherwise you can just put the average gem value if needed.
Yes, the comparison tab compares the stats of the item you put in the boxes to your equipped item of the same slot. There are two boxes so you can compare up to 2 items to your equipped item.
[EDIT] -- never mind i got it.
Edited by hvgotcodes, 22 November 2012 - 12:07 AM.
#19
Posted 22 November 2012 - 12:19 AM
Sheevah, on 21 November 2012 - 06:00 PM, said:
But still,your items barely have 2 essential affixes on them,let alone high rolls of those. SO yea,i think you got work to do ;-)
Yep, I found a TRI for 1 million that increased my dps by 11k.
Edited by hvgotcodes, 22 November 2012 - 12:44 AM.
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