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#1 SancticuS

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:47 PM

Just wanted to know if any of you have experienced the same as me and if it is an issue
that has been brought to Blizzard's attention:

http://eu.battle.net...767164?page=1#3

#2 Sen5ei

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:05 PM

View PostSancticuS, on 14 November 2012 - 05:47 PM, said:

Just wanted to know if any of you have experienced the same as me and if it is an issue
that has been brought to Blizzard's attention:



Just take a look at your Dex and you'll figure it out. It's your mistake.

#3 maka

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:31 PM

View PostSen5ei, on 14 November 2012 - 06:05 PM, said:

View PostSancticuS, on 14 November 2012 - 05:47 PM, said:

Just wanted to know if any of you have experienced the same as me and if it is an issue
that has been brought to Blizzard's attention:



Just take a look at your Dex and you'll figure it out. It's your mistake.
lol what?
The tooltip clearly says that equipping Inna's Favor would decrease his DPS by 3.5k, which is clearly not the case.

Edited by maka, 14 November 2012 - 06:32 PM.


#4 DerPeri

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:56 PM

the tooltip doesnt take the possible 2set bonus into account - so yeah, its flawed in a way

#5 Loroese

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 08:32 PM

Yep, the tooltip doesn't include set bonuses, which I found out from my zuni 2 pc. That's why I use a spreadsheet for dps comparisons.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:10 AM

The tooltip fails to take into account many things. For example, it misrepresents the relation between crit chance, crit damange and character sheet DPS. I've caught it displaying wrong numbers many times, especially with weapons that have crit damage (either via affix or via gem).

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 12:31 AM

View PostLoroese, on 14 November 2012 - 08:32 PM, said:

Yep, the tooltip doesn't include set bonuses, which I found out from my zuni 2 pc. That's why I use a spreadsheet for dps comparisons.

Always use a spreadsheet/calculator.

I can't believe how many times I clicked on an item link someone PMs me only to show some garbage 1100 dps 2-hander that supposedly will give me +60K DPS. No, that's not happening.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 05:42 AM

Oh, and the tooltip also doesn't account for passives, at least not for barb's weapon master.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 06:23 AM

View Postmaka, on 15 November 2012 - 05:42 AM, said:

Oh, and the tooltip also doesn't account for passives, at least not for barb's weapon master.

I seem to remember it did for Sharpshooter.  Wear gloves with no DPS stats, wait for sharpshooter to stack to 100% crit, then hover over gloves with only critical chance.  It should show no DPS gain.  I had to remove sharpshooter in order to get accurate comparisons of gear.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 06:31 AM

You're right, I remember having to remove SS to compare gear, otherwise it would go to 100% crit and ruin the numbers.
But I'm sure the tooltip doesn't account for Weapon Master - I tested that out today. The tooltip said that a certain 2H Mighty Weapon was a 600 dps increase over a 2H Mace, when in reality it was about a 4k dps decrease, due to Weapon Master.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 07:01 AM

Tooltip. Y u make no sense?!

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#12 maka

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 05:34 PM

^^Holy craziness, Batman!

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 05:48 PM

View PostunReality, on 15 November 2012 - 07:01 AM, said:

Tooltip. Y u make no sense?!
That one doesn't really look wrong to me. :S

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 05:59 PM

View PostTemsen, on 15 November 2012 - 05:48 PM, said:

View PostunReality, on 15 November 2012 - 07:01 AM, said:

Tooltip. Y u make no sense?!
That one doesn't really look wrong to me. :S

If you look closer, the green number looks like it has a - in front of it. So it's a negative dps gain? I figure it's just a graphical glitch.
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Posted 15 November 2012 - 05:59 PM

View PostTemsen, on 15 November 2012 - 05:48 PM, said:

View PostunReality, on 15 November 2012 - 07:01 AM, said:

Tooltip. Y u make no sense?!
That one doesn't really look wrong to me. :S

Look carefully. It says -21816 where it should say +21816, although it's still green.

Edit: Damnit, I was beaten to the point by mere seconds!

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 06:03 PM

View PostunReality, on 15 November 2012 - 07:01 AM, said:

Tooltip. Y u make no sense?!

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Not seeing where the TT is going wrong here. Of course, it's been a long day for me too... Increase in both main stat and speed along with an increase in raw weapon DPS. Now, if I would have shown the difference the TT was giving me when I went from my Skorn to my EF and Source, yeah, that was saying I would lose 44k DPS when infact I gained about 25k.

edit: Got it, see it now. As I said, long day. lol

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#17 Temsen

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 06:21 PM

Oh, right. I just pay attention to the red&green numbers, those are still correct, I guess?
Not a big deal in that case imo, though kinda weird.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 06:58 PM

View PostunReality, on 15 November 2012 - 07:01 AM, said:

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I see this issue on just about everything I compare.  The +/- error seems to happen once the char reaches a certain damage threshold.  Green numbers used to show a '+' but now they always show a '-'.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 05:43 AM

Must be, same thing happens to me, probably started right around the time I hit ~100K damage on the statsheet.

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