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[teoteodore]

I posted this on theorycrafting, but not sure anyone goes there:

I'm a melee type barbarian (I know that sounds redundant, but as opposed to a WW, I'm a brawler).  I'm having great fun with my build

http://us.battle.net...7/hero/24899239

but would like to switch out some gear, particularly looking for a new main hand with more crit damage and a socket.  I run ACT3/MP7 with few if any deaths, so I wonder if some of my 8.4% LS can be sacrificed so I can get a reasonably priced main hand without LS.  My resistances and damage reduction are both about 70% when buffed and my LoH is 563.

I pretty much see non-stop 250k average crits, and that's without the damage rend is doing, without LoH and without my white damage.  I figure at that rate I'm gaining at least (8.5% x 20% for inferno) x 250,000 (assume a crit per sec) = 4500 Life/sec + rend + minimal LoH.  Is that overheal?

[benane]

I think the best Way would be to just test it. Drop an items with LL and look how it goes. I'm wondering myself if 9% is a bit overkill

[teoteodore]

benane, on 15 November 2012 - 08:29 AM, said:

I think the best Way would be to just test it. Drop an items with LL and look how it goes. I'm wondering myself if 9% is a bit overkill

Thanks, I did just that.  I switched out my belt and thus reduced my LS from 8.4 to 5.5 ... as well as losing 13% frenzy damage (which plays a big role in LS)  I can safely say that the 8.4 was overkill(overheal).  The only time I saw my health go down to about 90% was scampering after range mobs while others were firing at me, which always happens.  And I died once, but that was because I was testing the LS ... standing in the plague pools of a champion mob of 3 desecrator, plague doom troopers --- that's hard to survive at the best of times ... and I'd leap out usually.  But it stood up to a few arcane beams in close range with no problem.  So, I guess I can now try to swap out my main hand.

[benane]

Thanks for sharing this! I may try to swap my 3% LL passive for Brawler and give it a try too

[teoteodore]

benane, on 15 November 2012 - 09:31 AM, said:

Thanks for sharing this! I may try to swap my 3% LL passive for Brawler and give it a try too

hehe ... Brawler is a great skill!  One trick you'll soon discover is to select the toughest mob in a pack to kill first while you're surrounded, you want to take full advantage of that 30% against the hardest kill (think tremors, warlords, extra health elites).

[Stephenk291]

Look at your damage and that should be a good indicator about your LS.  If you've got 100k+unbuffed you're fine at 6%LL.  However you need to account for your Armor/AR/life/and LoH (for reflect mobs) as well.

[gosant]

to answer your initial question:

mp10 -> molten + desecrate -> you can stand in it without dying


how to achieve that? i'd say you need ~15k heal every sec (depending on defensive stats)..you can calculate the dmg dealt / lifeleech required yourself..

Edited by gosant, 15 November 2012 - 08:16 PM.

[Angedefoi]

I agree with Stephenk291. With 3%LL on my belt and 3% from Bloodthirst ~6% @ 100k+ dps feels just right. I'm usually key farming on MP6 or 7 but I'm using a 2H HoTA/Rend spec. The LL % might be higher if you're running a WW spec, not sure though.

[dalkan13]

which is better though bloodthirst or tough as nails?

[Angedefoi]

dalkan13, on 16 November 2012 - 01:14 AM, said:

which is better though bloodthirst or tough as nails?

I'd say either go for more dps & lifesteal with bloodthirst or get more LL% on your gear overall & tough as nails. I don't think there would be a need to double up once you have enough of it from just your gear.