36 replies to this topic

[Farfoes]

I tried your runs out they are good enough but indeed i tried both 2H and Dual Wield but i think Dual Wield is way better.

[manaja]

i get around 65-70mil/h with a DS rubild at 104k DPS
also DW for a TR build is actually very slow compared to DS

[dzurel]

thundersteele, on 19 November 2012 - 06:34 AM, said:

I use DS instead of TR. Is comparable in terms of farming speed for DW monks, and you don't have to invest in spirit regen gear or similar items. I can farm MP1 with 60m/hour or so and use the same gear to do MP10 ubers (modulo the hellfire ring).

I liked this vid because it finally convinced me to go from MP3 to MP1, despite having close to 150k dps. I probably could do MP2, but on MP3 elites really start to slow you down, which is in no way compensated by the 10% exp bonus from the extra MP level.

There is no point in farming mp3 if you are targeting "leveling".

[dzurel]

manaja, on 19 November 2012 - 12:07 PM, said:

i get around 65-70mil/h with a DS rubild at 104k DPS
also DW for a TR build is actually very slow compared to DS

Can you make ai video and let us see how faster it is than this?

Farfoes, on 19 November 2012 - 11:53 AM, said:

I tried your runs out they are good enough but indeed i tried both 2H and Dual Wield but i think Dual Wield is way better.

As i said this build is for DW. 2h has different efficent builds. DO NOT forget to put FoT to right mouse click and keep the button hold while moving or fighting. (just hold the right click pressed)

Edited by dzurel, 23 November 2012 - 10:27 AM.

[Cryomatic]

dzurel, on 19 November 2012 - 09:32 PM, said:

thundersteele, on 19 November 2012 - 06:34 AM, said:

I use DS instead of TR. Is comparable in terms of farming speed for DW monks, and you don't have to invest in spirit regen gear or similar items. I can farm MP1 with 60m/hour or so and use the same gear to do MP10 ubers (modulo the hellfire ring).

I liked this vid because it finally convinced me to go from MP3 to MP1, despite having close to 150k dps. I probably could do MP2, but on MP3 elites really start to slow you down, which is in no way compensated by the 10% exp bonus from the extra MP level.

There is no point in farming mp3 if you are targeting "leveling".

not always true, if you really have the gear and clear mp3 as quick as mp0 you get another 30% xp so even slightly slower could give the same xp or more

[dzurel]

Cryomatic, on 19 November 2012 - 09:43 PM, said:

dzurel, on 19 November 2012 - 09:32 PM, said:

thundersteele, on 19 November 2012 - 06:34 AM, said:

I use DS instead of TR. Is comparable in terms of farming speed for DW monks, and you don't have to invest in spirit regen gear or similar items. I can farm MP1 with 60m/hour or so and use the same gear to do MP10 ubers (modulo the hellfire ring).

I liked this vid because it finally convinced me to go from MP3 to MP1, despite having close to 150k dps. I probably could do MP2, but on MP3 elites really start to slow you down, which is in no way compensated by the 10% exp bonus from the extra MP level.

There is no point in farming mp3 if you are targeting "leveling".

not always true, if you really have the gear and clear mp3 as quick as mp0 you get another 30% xp so even slightly slower could give the same xp or more

thers no such a gear that covers user intent reading this forum.

[Shatterbox]

dzurel, on 18 November 2012 - 03:40 PM, said:

This is just dual wield build, so use brain (its free) and dont compare with  2H builds.

Not comparing it to 2h builds. Comparing it to all EXP builds, of which, this is slower. You say "speed run" yet this isn't really.

You might as well do this on mp4 to just get from pack to pack fast.

[dzurel]

Shatterbox, on 21 November 2012 - 07:30 PM, said:

dzurel, on 18 November 2012 - 03:40 PM, said:

This is just dual wield build, so use brain (its free) and dont compare with  2H builds.

Not comparing it to 2h builds. Comparing it to all EXP builds, of which, this is slower. You say "speed run" yet this isn't really.

You might as well do this on mp4 to just get from pack to pack fast.

If you know a build that gives more than 1m exp/min please share it with us. Nothingelse i can say about it wtihout proofs.

[Huminator]

If you play correct the Tempest Rush farm build, is alot more xp/hour comparted to DS.

Edited by Huminator, 22 November 2012 - 06:12 PM.

[SolusCoda]

dzurel, you seem to be missing the point of this forum. You are getting angry and defensive if someone even suggests something different from your build. These threads are discussions. An alternative build or comment isn't a personal attack on you.

I am a big fan of seeing what builds others are doing, including yours, so it is very disappointing to see you attacking and insulting anyone who mentions a 2her or another build.

Edited by SolusCoda, 22 November 2012 - 11:33 PM.

[Qwaygon]

SolusCoda, on 22 November 2012 - 09:19 PM, said:

dzurel, you seem to be missing the point of this forum. You are getting angry and defensive if someone even suggests something different from your build.

i dont see Druzel attacking anyone, but its a bit anoying to see peoples trying to prove you wrong (about fast farm build) but didn't realy provide any actual proof, i mean "pretty sure i can do it faster than you.. anyone with a skorn and 250k+" ofc you can, but mainly because 250k >>> 100k, also i would like to see DS build in action (or at least link to a build/char profile), i agree that  Druzel is too slow in his movie and should use TR more  often, this however require build/gear support that apparently missing.
Personally im using similar build/farm method except i use mantra of healing for 3 spirit per second and TRing 80% space between packs, i do however has twice lower DPS that Druz, but usually manage to get 1mil/min

don't want to start holywars but just want to point that if you saying someone wrong, you need to provide some evidence, not only to prove you right, but also cos other peoples are interested to see different farming build for different gear level with some measurable results, and even if Druz does not show BEST way, its productivity like 90% but posts saying "nah, i can do better" realy do like 0% good, if they are not supported with ANY useful info (aside from - c'mon gear up to 250k!)

Edited by Qwaygon, 23 November 2012 - 08:24 AM.

[dzurel]

Qwaygon, on 23 November 2012 - 08:22 AM, said:

SolusCoda, on 22 November 2012 - 09:19 PM, said:

dzurel, you seem to be missing the point of this forum. You are getting angry and defensive if someone even suggests something different from your build.

i dont see Druzel attacking anyone, but its a bit anoying to see peoples trying to prove you wrong (about fast farm build) but didn't realy provide any actual proof, i mean "pretty sure i can do it faster than you.. anyone with a skorn and 250k+" ofc you can, but mainly because 250k >>> 100k, also i would like to see DS build in action (or at least link to a build/char profile), i agree that  Druzel is too slow in his movie and should use TR more  often, this however require build/gear support that apparently missing.
Personally im using similar build/farm method except i use mantra of healing for 3 spirit per second and TRing 80% space between packs, i do however has twice lower DPS that Druz, but usually manage to get 1mil/min

don't want to start holywars but just want to point that if you saying someone wrong, you need to provide some evidence, not only to prove you right, but also cos other peoples are interested to see different farming build for different gear level with some measurable results, and even if Druz does not show BEST way, its productivity like 90% but posts saying "nah, i can do better" realy do like 0% good, if they are not supported with ANY useful info (aside from - c'mon gear up to 250k!)

Man you totally said what i want to say there. I am not atacking people but defending the topic from "i can do it better" or "this is slow" posts without proofs. By the way, i didn't focus on fast farming at the video. It is just a random record. I am not competing with anyone who is farming mighty fast. My point is not to prove i farm very fast, just with this build people can farm faster. The other thing i suggest is "using FoT on right click, so u wont have to click like crazy, you just hold the right click button to move and attack, it helps u relax a lot and saves you from taking garbage by missclicks.)

[Reev]

nice video dude

btw I have a level 50 monk that want to be 60 can I use this build to do the 10 levels left? I have lot of 'level required reduced by xx" or this build is only for a 50k+ dps level 60 chars?

tnx for advice

Edited by Reev, 25 November 2012 - 02:50 PM.

[dzurel]

Reev, on 25 November 2012 - 02:49 PM, said:

nice video dude

btw I have a level 50 monk that want to be 60 can I use this build to do the 10 levels left? I have lot of 'level required reduced by xx" or this build is only for a 50k+ dps level 60 chars?

tnx for advice

Mate actually this is the best method for leveling for me. I'm sure you can level faster with using this method even if you are not 60 if you have a high dps weapon with that lvl req. reduced. (Use fist of thunder at right click)

Edited by dzurel, 25 November 2012 - 06:21 PM.

[Shatterbox]

dzurel, on 22 November 2012 - 11:23 AM, said:

Shatterbox, on 21 November 2012 - 07:30 PM, said:

dzurel, on 18 November 2012 - 03:40 PM, said:

This is just dual wield build, so use brain (its free) and dont compare with  2H builds.

Not comparing it to 2h builds. Comparing it to all EXP builds, of which, this is slower. You say "speed run" yet this isn't really.

You might as well do this on mp4 to just get from pack to pack fast.

If you know a build that gives more than 1m exp/min please share it with us. Nothingelse i can say about it wtihout proofs.

Its what I said before, "Tempest rush with skorn blah blah" as you so nicely put it. Do this for an hour on a fresh level. I guarantee you don't get 60m xp in an hour. I've actually timed myself doing a TR for a full hour and got 72mill. Thats inclusive of picking up drops, leaving games, restarting them etc. If you truly want to watch a video of me doing it for an hour, I'd be glad to provide.

It's not that your build isn't alright, in fact, dashing strike is alot of fun. Its just not a "speed run" as the title misleadingly states.

Edited by Shatterbox, 29 November 2012 - 07:38 PM.

[Totalwar]

i dont like tempest rush builts but this one seems nice and cheap =P

[dzurel]

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It's not that your build isn't alright, in fact, dashing strike is alot of fun. Its just not a "speed run" as the title misleadingly states.

Whatever you say bro you are the boss.