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[HipsterNerd]

So I've hit a wall recently. I'm consistently farming, but I've no clue in hell what to upgrade and how much to spend. I'm usually farming mp2 on archon build and mp5 on permafreeze build(using it for ubers as well). Switching up, coz permafreeze is superboring. So I want to keep being able to use both builds and bulk up my farming capabilities.

eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/HornyHerring-1491/hero/143839

What stands out as the part that I need to change first?

Was thinking about buing a new main. Was considering tyrael(for speed), tal rasha(for ias) and zunimassa(stats and future set bonuses). Was thinking about getting lacuni's but the good ones are really out of my price range and worse ones will drop both my dps and eph, so kinda bad trade for speed.

What do you guys think?

Yea, got 37 mil in the bank - EU SC. HornyHerring#1491

[Jaetch]

http://www.diablofan...ng-wizard-gear/

Updating it when I can, but it's there to provide a general guideline as to where to go.

Your DPS and EHP looks to be in respectable shape, and since you run Archon and CM-stunlock as separate builds, why not combine them both? Take out Explosive Blast and substitute it with Archon-Arcane Destruction. You can take out Slow Time and put in Force Weapon or Blood Magic Weapon instead. Might consider taking out Cold-Blooded and replacing it with Glass Cannon in order to put out more constant damage with Archon or Galvanizing Ward for the passive HP regen. With the build, you can farm MPs as high as your gear can allow. Stun, nuke with Archon, attack until it wears off, spam until Archon is back off cooldown, nuke again, repeat.

If you're looking for more EHP, run the Zuni Trail+Marrow combo and throw in Lacuni's if you can afford to do so. If you're looking for DPS, run Zuni Trail+Pox and then Tal chest+Inna's Temperance. The latter is significantly more expensive.

You can probably do the Zuni Trail+Marrow upgrade with 37M, but you won't be getting top-tier varieties. You can get one of them with decent-good stats with the 37M.

Edited by Jaetch, 09 November 2012 - 06:48 PM.

[HipsterNerd]

Thank yo for your input, Jaetch. I checked the thread and despite it having a lot of info I unfortunately found it not that helpful. I was mostly looking for a way to go on the crossroads. Anyway, that build you described looks like fun and will certainly try it as it seems to be a good alternative for solo farming on mid mp's. Been checking your profile and I've got a question - I've noticed you've got 3x +12% movement speed items, which is way over the 25% cap. Is there a particular reason to it? Like, you just have lacunis for ias and cc and the speed is just complementary or is it the case for the pants? Or are those just BIS items because of the unique stats? I guess on my budget I'd have too choose one of those, since I'm in a crazy need of that movement speed. Can you shed some light on the subject?

[Jaetch]

HipsterNerd, on 10 November 2012 - 03:12 PM, said:

Thank yo for your input, Jaetch. I checked the thread and despite it having a lot of info I unfortunately found it not that helpful. I was mostly looking for a way to go on the crossroads. Anyway, that build you described looks like fun and will certainly try it as it seems to be a good alternative for solo farming on mid mp's. Been checking your profile and I've got a question - I've noticed you've got 3x +12% movement speed items, which is way over the 25% cap. Is there a particular reason to it? Like, you just have lacunis for ias and cc and the speed is just complementary or is it the case for the pants? Or are those just BIS items because of the unique stats? I guess on my budget I'd have too choose one of those, since I'm in a crazy need of that movement speed. Can you shed some light on the subject?

It's just for the DPS. Lacuni's with crit are BiS for wizards, so are Inna's pants with good int+vit, though pants are more customizable with Depth Diggers and Blackthorne's as well. Zuni Trail is for the bonus poison damage as well as the set.

[Bagstone]

Jaetch, on 10 November 2012 - 07:02 PM, said:

It's just for the DPS. Lacuni's with crit are BiS for wizards, so are Inna's pants with good int+vit, though pants are more customizable with Depth Diggers and Blackthorne's as well. Zuni Trail is for the bonus poison damage as well as the set.

I was wondering about the Inna's. Many people are saying that IAS is overrated, and buying pants because of 1% crit is kinda... insane. All the other stats on the Inna's are not really that overwhelming once you are at 24% MS already.

In that case, isn't a simple rare pants better for most wizards? Something like 200 int, 300 vit, 2 sockets, 80 allres, and 397 bonus armor would be almost as good as a BiS Inna's in terms of DPS, and would boost your survivability beyond insanity.

[Loroese]

In my Archon gear, 1 crit and 9 IAS is worth about 36+9*18.8 = 205 Int, roughly. That means I'd need to have 200 more int on pants than what's on Inna's. Otherwise, switching from an 80 Int Inna's to a 200 Int rare I'd lose about 6-7k dps out of 220k. If you need EHP the small dps loss is probably worth it but the whole point of Archon is to have huge dps and farm lower MP levels where you don't need EHP. If you're gearing for CM, then Inna's aren't very good, because of the EHP, but some still use them, it just takes a bit of gear shuffling to maintain sufficient EHP and other stats.

Also, how much to you figure a rare pair of pants with those stats would cost? On the US AH you can get a 9% IAS Inna's with 70-80 int for pretty cheap (not sure exact price, but was under 20 mil a few weeks ago), so the pants are pretty cheap for the dps gain.

[Jaetch]

Bagstone, on 10 November 2012 - 08:01 PM, said:

Jaetch, on 10 November 2012 - 07:02 PM, said:

It's just for the DPS. Lacuni's with crit are BiS for wizards, so are Inna's pants with good int+vit, though pants are more customizable with Depth Diggers and Blackthorne's as well. Zuni Trail is for the bonus poison damage as well as the set.

I was wondering about the Inna's. Many people are saying that IAS is overrated, and buying pants because of 1% crit is kinda... insane. All the other stats on the Inna's are not really that overwhelming once you are at 24% MS already.

In that case, isn't a simple rare pants better for most wizards? Something like 200 int, 300 vit, 2 sockets, 80 allres, and 397 bonus armor would be almost as good as a BiS Inna's in terms of DPS, and would boost your survivability beyond insanity.

Right, pants are most customizable. I used to rock a nice pair of Depth Diggers before the switch. But like you said, the pants will need over 200 base int to accommodate the attack rate loss. Hit harder slower or hit lighter but faster?

[Smoke134]

Hey Jaetch, i need some help upgrading too. I have 170 mil. I want to use CM/WW if its possible. My profile - eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Smoke-2734/hero/798510. If you could login in EU an help me upgrade i will be very happy

Edited by Smoke134, 11 November 2012 - 10:30 PM.