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#21 Zero(pS)

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 03:17 AM

It's all about the balance. It doesn't matter that you're recovering 15k HP/sec if you're losing 20k hp/sec. You're still going to die in 11 seconds (with 45k HP). Of course some skills tip that balance in your favour (Serenity, Revenge, basically healing skills) - but you got the idea.

Add 1-1.5k armor and 150-200 resistances there and you should do a lot better. Maybe instead of that you could get something like 800 LoH. Who knows, maybe even both :P

Yeah, I know, that's not easy (or nice), you might even have to give up some dps, but that's how the game works ;)
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#22 demonknight667

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 01:07 PM

View PostTehAdi, on 02 November 2012 - 02:11 AM, said:

View PostSyronicus, on 01 November 2012 - 06:40 PM, said:

Too little information. If you don't mind me asking, what is your armor? What is your unbuffed resistance? What is your EHP? What DPS are you running? Any more infor for those posting might help out a bit.

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6k armor is your weak link. With your DPS, 6k armor is more than enough i am sure for regular mobs but get it up to 7k-8k at least [unbuffed] and you should be able to breeze through RD mobs.

#23 Zulian

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 01:59 PM

more armor and loh should do the trick.

#24 carlucio

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 02:30 PM

With my perma bears+ BBV+ Mass confusion  build there is no way to not take huge damage from reflect, i just got used to dying a few times to this kind of elites.

#25 GalZohar

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 03:25 PM

You guys say "more armor" as if more resists wouldn't achieve the exact same thing...

#26 Philss

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 05:02 PM

8% life leech + overpower crushing advance im invincible .

#27 DenkaSaeba25

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 06:40 PM

Just wait for the hotfix, at this point...

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 06:50 PM

View PostDenkaSaeba25, on 03 November 2012 - 06:40 PM, said:

Just wait for the hotfix, at this point...
there wont be an hotfix for reflect damage
just need to play on lower mp or get more dmg reduction for physical or all resist or armor for it or more lifesteal or life on hit
or simply kite it into trash or another pack to help on leeching back some life
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Posted 03 November 2012 - 08:01 PM

View PostCryomatic, on 03 November 2012 - 06:50 PM, said:

View PostDenkaSaeba25, on 03 November 2012 - 06:40 PM, said:

Just wait for the hotfix, at this point...
there wont be an hotfix for reflect damage
just need to play on lower mp or get more dmg reduction for physical or all resist or armor for it or more lifesteal or life on hit
or simply kite it into trash or another pack to help on leeching back some life

Have you read the news section?

"That said, we do agree that we can make some improvements. For example, we'll be making it so that damage dealt by pets will no longer reflect back to the player. We're also toying with the idea of changing Reflects Damage so that it has a duration and can only be activated by monsters periodically (rather than it always being active), but that's definitely not yet set in stone."

http://us.battle.net...93362?page=2#31

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 09:02 PM

while I'm not a big fan of nerfing mob abilities, I think that if they changed reflect to work similar to how shielding works now, it would be more fun. If they don't change it, at least adding some kind of aura would help.
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#31 cw30000

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 11:40 PM

I think they should change reflect damage to how crushing advantage works. I don't know it come up occasionally, but not a permanent ability.

Now I have dropped my skorn and use dw and seem to be find with RD now. I can just bash until they die.

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 11:55 PM

I have a 1hander with high LOH and shield with high armor + AR wich I equip when I run into this evul affix. I nerf my dmg by 40% ish but its required for me to get them down.

My Skorn without LS/LOH eqquipped I cant handle it.
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#33 GalZohar

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 03:38 AM

Obviously you need enough life gain. LOH weapon with shield is the extreme solution, and isn't exactly a quick way to deal with those, but it obviously "works" too.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 07:32 PM

View Postcarlucio, on 03 November 2012 - 02:30 PM, said:

With my perma bears+ BBV+ Mass confusion  build there is no way to not take huge damage from reflect, i just got used to dying a few times to this kind of elites.

Try horrify with the frightening aspect rune.  3 seconds of bears during SW, 8 seconds during your double armor buff then you just chill for 5 seconds while SW comes off cooldown.  With some leech I'm killing reflect no problem.




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