Zergie, on 19 August 2012 - 08:02 AM, said:
I mean the poll alone in this thread, its troll-tastic.
You either agree with the poll, or you are wrong, the wording alone, its troll 101.
And, yet, less than a week ago there was a hate-Blizzard thread with a very similar poll. I surely don't remember you speaking up about that. Oddly enough that thread got locked because after a few pages some guy who just wanted to rag on Blizzard, after getting clarification from Daemaro on what "civil discussion" entailed, went right back to being belligerent.
At the end of the day, it's still a fansite, and therefore we shouldn't expect to be swimming through post after post about how Jay Wilson is a total fuckbag or Blizzard is a money-hungry corporation trying to rape us all to get grandma's social security checks, or how everything Blizzard North makes is the second coming of Christ and the only way to make a good game is to hire them and beg them to rename Torchlight 2 to Diablo 3.
I'm not saying that negative opinions shouldn't be voiced; as I said I'm a strong proponent of freedom of speech. But there is simply something off about people who claim to hate the game, refuse to play it, quit two months ago.... but still come to a fansite to tell us how shitty our game is.
I quit Guild Wars several years ago. I didn't understand the game, I couldn't get into it. I have never gone to a Guild Wars site, let alone a Guild Wars fansite, to tell them just how stupid I think the game is. Why? Because unless I'm going to propose some changes that would keep me interested in the game, what point is there? I can have a small degree of respect for the people who like the game, can't I? Isn't it more productive, as a whole, for me to give feedback for a game I plan on playing? To involve myself in something I do in fact care about?
If D3 is broken and cannot be fixed, if D3 is a humongous failure... if that is how you feel, isn't it appropos to just move on? Isn't the whole problem centered directly around people who claim they quit the game but are still here trolling the shit out of people who play the game?
Just as an example. I've disagreed with Maka probably 85 bajillion times about the AH. I do not agree with his position on that topic at all, and I think that's pretty well-known. But I don't think Maka is a troll, and I don't think that Maka is bringing down the "quality" of these forums. Why? Because he doesn't preface every post with "my friends and i all quit 6 weeks ago" or "this game sucks because everyone is quitting" or "d3 is dead." So while I very much disagree with his opinion on one facet of the game, I do not feel that he's expressing said opinion in a manner that's outright detrimental to the community at all.
And therein lies the difference. I could name 10, 20, 30 people whose militant and antagonistic hatred are detrimental to the community. The whole "Blizzard is too Obvious" thread takes the cake for that right now. If you want to quit D3 to play GW2, fuckin great shit for you! But why are you still on this forum talking shit about Blizzard? Why is it too much to ask that people just move on in a semi-dignified manner and not this "I'm leaving but I'm breaking everything on the way out the door" approach? Is that really too much to ask?
To a certain extent it's similar to me going to shop for a chainsaw, and I go to Sears and talk with a person there about what products they have for sale. For some reason I decide their prices are far too high and I tell the salesperson that I'm never shopping there again. But on my way out I decide to take a baseball bat and break a dozen pieces of merchandise and go to everyone I see shopping telling them that Sears sucks balls and that they're retards for shopping there. That's not rational behavior and we really shouldn't be forced to accept it.
Edited by shaggy, 19 August 2012 - 01:20 PM.