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[rozmata]

I've got a headache of you apologizing for half the time in the last video. I've already forgave you after 3 times

Edited by rozmata, 08 April 2012 - 11:22 PM.

[KageKaze]

rozmata, on 08 April 2012 - 11:21 PM, said:

I've got a headache of you apologizing for half the time in the last video. I've already forgave you after 3 times

hehe, point taken.  I really thought it was worse than what it was.  Then I listened back and I thought "oh, that's not so bad"... theeeeen the apologizing.  Yeah, even I wanted to slap myself.  

I'll just have to make the next one even BETTER!

[sacridoc]

Nice job posting the formula for how to get the Armor DR and the Resistances DR... I was really wondering about that.

I would expect that we'll see a lot of gear with +Resistances (in addition to Armor of course) and not much gear with +Dodge. They could cap it at 50 or something and it would be relatively linear, but I guess we'll learn more eventually... along with the Block cap if there is anything like that.

You can see when going from 200 dex > 400 dex VS 200 str > 400 str how much better dodge is. You get a 25.00% damage reduction increase VS 5.88% increase. That's 60% and 88.24% monster damage respectively. Of course that's where gear comes in obviously and you get a lot of armor from the gear you're wearing (and I'm sure we'll get a lot of resistances as well).

By the way KageKaze... if you haven't looked into that thread in the theorycrafting section it might be somehow useful, although it's really long. It goes into all the multipliers used in finding your DPS.

[rozmata]

Hi Kagekaze. I've just checked new unofficial changes to DH and I can tell you one thing for sure. There is no point in analyzing characters. Zip, nada It's probably better if you change your movies to show us some cool things in D3. For example as DH you could run around and gather lots of mobs with high level character and very very bad hand crossbow (lvl 1 would be the best). Show us how to survive that. Same goes to other type of characters. We need something worth showing as analysis is obviously pointless. Sorry, it's my frustration caused by all those ridiculous changes. It's not a point here or there. They change values a lot.
On the other hand it may show that they are struggling to balance the game and we may end-up playing game which is either too difficult at the end or too easy, but in any case I think we will be able to find a way to crate some obviously cutting edge builds which they can't predict, buhhahahaha.

Edited by rozmata, 09 April 2012 - 08:32 PM.

[KageKaze]

Here's the next in my testing segments.  I call this one Shadow Tactics where I talk about boss encounters and how to overcome them.


Shadow Tactics - Leoric, The Skeleton King
A full breakdown of the fight against Leoric, The Skeleton King.

Leoric has 3 major abilites:

• Flurry of blows
  
• Teleport
  
• Summon Minions

Health Globe method:
Killing the summoned minions

If you like this content, please thumb it up.  Leave comments, questions, or suggestions at TheShadowPost@Gmail.com or here in the comments





It hasn't been as easy to set this up as I had hoped, takes a lot of footage and I didn't quite do what I had in my head.  I wanted each ability to be shown as I talk about it, but I was already pushing my time.  Also I forgot to mention that Leoric can kill his skeleton minions.  I think I can edit that part in at least, I have a minute of extra footage to work with.

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sacridoc, on 09 April 2012 - 03:18 AM, said:

By the way KageKaze... if you haven't looked into that thread in the theorycrafting section it might be somehow useful, although it's really long. It goes into all the multipliers used in finding your DPS.

Think I'm going to have to at some point, but it's kind of daunting   Even in World of Warcraft I studied just enough to know how to deal with my base stats.  I would read the math segments a bit to see their proof, but to this day I still couldn't tell you why mathematically my spec and gear worked so well for me

rozmata, on 09 April 2012 - 08:27 PM, said:

Hi Kagekaze. I've just checked new unofficial changes to DH and I can tell you one thing for sure. There is no point in analyzing characters. Zip, nada It's probably better if you change your movies to show us some cool things in D3. For example as DH you could run around and gather lots of mobs with high level character and very very bad hand crossbow (lvl 1 would be the best). Show us how to survive that. Same goes to other type of characters. We need something worth showing as analysis is obviously pointless. Sorry, it's my frustration caused by all those ridiculous changes. It's not a point here or there. They change values a lot.
On the other hand it may show that they are struggling to balance the game and we may end-up playing game which is either too difficult at the end or too easy, but in any case I think we will be able to find a way to crate some obviously cutting edge builds which they can't predict, buhhahahaha.

Looking at the changes, most of them aren't too bad.  A few damage tweaks here and there, but mostly I'm noticing that CC abilities have an increased chance to proc, but have a reduced duration.  This is probably better since there's CC reduction in further difficulty, you'll most likely want the CC to happen more often and not care just how long it lasts.

Most of the damage changes aren't even for abilities we get in Beta it seems.  Unless, of course, they changed the order we get spells again.  Since Blizzard finally released an official skill progression chart, like d3db.com had, I find that doubtful.

All that being said..

CURSE YOU BLIZZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD!  I have to start all over again!
They love doing this to me when I have only 2 classes left to go, don't they?

Wonder why they needed a character wipe, everything seems straight forward.

[sacridoc]

That video was pretty well done. Honestly... since I don't have the Beta, I learned some stuff from it. You just have to refine how you do these videos that showcase a particular part of the game as you do more of them over time. Like you said, it works best when you're talking about something as it happens in the video.

Also, people are probably interested in how snares work on bosses I would bet. So if you're going to edit the video further, you should put that in.

[Plandor]

Best D3 video series on YouTube.  Kudos!

You seem to have a bit of Rush Limbaugh's vocal cadence.  I like it, but your content is much more interesting.  

[rozmata]

Just saying in general that whatever analysis you do it is outdated in a week
This the last video type is cool. Thanks

[rozmata]

Great video. Thanks. Btw, please use FDH as male with all those scarfs and in general looks gay. Male monk is ok even wizard but not dh.

[KageKaze]

And Lo!  Blizzard did bless us mere mortals with a Patch of number that was 16.  And it was good.  In His name the prophet Bashiok did state that former heroes were slain in order to be risen a new, absolved of their earthy wants, desires, and gold.

I'm continuing my series in a side by side release of videos when blizzard announces a new character.  I'm obviously behind a week, but I plan to catch up quickly as I have time off this week.  I want to make these videos a kind of all-in-one guide, covering the basics as well as advanced techniques so that Newbies and Veterans can prepare for launch.  I can't cover everything, so I'm trying to also link any resources that will help people along the way.

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Diablo 3 PATCH 16 - Final Countdown:  Demon Hunter part 1

Levels 1-5
Skills:  Hungering Arrow, Impale, Entangling shot, Caltrop, Rapid Fire

Topics-

• Patch 16 release - character wipe
  
• Plans to follow Blizzard's character reveals (reveal.diablo3.com)
  
• How to get a unique class sigil for your banner in retail
  
• Looking at default DPS (unarmed lvl 1)
  
• Achievement wipe (this didn't actually happen, achievements were retained)
  
• New icon for healers on the mini-map
  
• Some general patch notes (1h xbow buff, class specific items)
  
• Hatred/Discipline resource system
  
• Reduction of Discipline costs
  
• Effective resource use and 'overflow' of having full resourse
  
• Callback to the 'beer' resource used by Trebis (@SC2NoobSchool)
  
• 5 second cooldown on skill swapping in normal difficulty
  
• Maximizing resource usage
  
• Comparing skills using damage/resource
  
• Captain Daltyn's new abilites (possible change to all frozen mobs)
  
• Epic item hunting through breaking barrels
  
• How multiple snares work when used together
  
• Resource generation compared to RTS resource gathering
  
• Rare packs, Minions, and Champions

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Plandor, on 10 April 2012 - 04:06 AM, said:

Best D3 video series on YouTube.  Kudos!

You seem to have a bit of Rush Limbaugh's vocal cadence.  I like it, but your content is much more interesting.  

Had to think on that one a bit.  I may not be a Rush fan, but I fully admit the man has a knack for speaking publicly.  Thank you.

rozmata, on 10 April 2012 - 08:09 AM, said:

Great video. Thanks. Btw, please use FDH as male with all those scarfs and in general looks gay. Male monk is ok even wizard but not dh.

Ah, sorry to disappoint I already started recording him.  Becides, scarves are cool.  The guy from Shinobi (Joe Musashi?) and Viewtiful Joe wear scarves!

[KageKaze]

Part 2 had to be broken apart into 2 segments.  Here's the first part

Levels 6 - 7
Runes:  Puncturing Arrow (Hungering Arrow), Impact (Impale)

Topics-

• Items open at http://reveal.diablo3.com
  
• Barbarian open for banner customization
  
• Developer Diary I unlocked
  
• FPS feature added to the game using CTRL + R
  
• How movement and attack work in a click only game like Diablo 3
  
• How to force attack while standing still (Shift key)
  
• How to force your character to move without attacking (unbound)
  
• Elemental damage inheritance for skills with or without damage types
  
• Elemental damages lacking special properties
  
• How skills with elemental types benefit from elemental damage on weapons
  
• Combining effective damage and effective resource management
  
• Nephalem Valor:  LINK
  
• Shrine buff sharing across your party
  
• Recall stones added at the end of dungeons
  
• Picking skills based not only on what they do, but how they feel or look
  
• The impression of low build diversity especially at low levels
  
• Why low level skills will be useful even at end game
  
• Higher level skills or skills with runes not always 'better' than previous skills
  
• The dynamic monster spawns of Diablo 3 compared to Diablo 2
  
• Why you want to look at white/gray items early, but quickly start to ignore them
  
• Demon Hunters and Melee weapons
  
• Future builds without ranged weapons may work, but not enough skills in beta
  
• The 'silver' questgiver icon (!) and what it means

Edited by KageKaze, 12 April 2012 - 03:11 AM.

[KageKaze]

UPDATE:  To the mods, sorry if this got posted before 24 hours passed, saw the last post as "yesterday" and may have jumped the gun.

Here's the 2nd part of part 2, now affectionately called part 3.

Diablo 3 PATCH 16 - Final Countdown:  Demon Hunter part 3
Level 8
Skills:  Smoke Screen

Topics-

• Random events and why it's a good thing to go the 'wrong way'
  
• High risk high reward weapons compared to stable weapon damage
  
• Enemy Dodge bug (7:00) - Enemy becomes unhittable
  
• Rubberbanding with Knockback (7:30) that will be fixed at release
  
• Changes to Smoke Screen that do not appear in the tooltip
  
• Maximum movement increase value (25%)
  
• Crafting and how Artisans work (20:00 - 28:30)
  
• Chance to acquire rare crafting materials from blue items
  
• Legendary crafting materials removed for all difficulties except Inferno
  
• Blacksmith is at Apprentice level, misspoke that he's at artisan
  
• Monster Agro and using smoke screen to your advantage
  
• Using high damage weapons for hard hitting, high cost abilities
  
• using high DPS weapons for efficent abilities (Rapid Fire)
  
• Matriarch's Bones (31:20)
  
• Compensating for low damage weapons with higher resource generation
  
• Plans for future classes:  Barbarian, Monk, Witch Doctor, Wizard

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For those interested, I created a Blacksmith Artisan primer from a segment of the above video.  It's pretty much the 9 minutes near the end where I go over crafting, but it seemed useful for a primer and I wanted to make it easy to find without combing through a playthrough.

Spoiler

Edited by KageKaze, 12 April 2012 - 09:45 AM.

[KageKaze]

Another batch of videos!  I'll be holding off on Demon Hunter levels 11-13 due to the time crunch, I'm really trying to catch up to Blizzard's reveal site.

Diablo 3 PATCH 16 - Final Countdown: Demon Hunter part 4

Level 9
Skills:  Vault
Runes:  Chain Gang (entangling shot)

Topics-

• Book of Cain unlock available at http://reveal.diablo3.com
  
• Discussion on Primary Attributes (1:50 - 15:30)
  
• Secondary effects of primary attributes
  
• Str-armor, dex-dodge, int-resistance
  
• In depth look at the Details screen
  
• Details screen has a real-time update, easy to see changes when they happen
  
• Attacks per Second only shows current swing hand
  
• Details numbers rounded, but detailed tooltip values should be accurate
  
• How ratings work (armor/resist)
  
• Thorns damage
  
• Various life regeneration stats
  
• Resource values and class specific items
  
• Maximum movement speed increase (25%)
  
• The asterisk (*) over an NPC's head
  
• Quivers giving 10% attack speed bonuses for all ranged weapon types
  
• Molten monster type (20:50)
  
• Elective mode tutorial (25:25 - 28:00)
  
• Follow up on Armor ratings (29:45 - 31:15)
  
• Higher ratings needed for higher monster levels
  
• Monster melee swings unavoidable
  
• Co-Op vs Single player play
  
• Correction:  XP increases and 8 player parties were D2, said D3 by mistake
  
• Followers (39:45 - 47:50)

Spoiler

Diablo 3 PATCH 16 - Final Countdown: Demon Hunter part 5
Level 10
Passives:  Thrill of the Hunt, Tactical Advantage

Topics-

• Overview of some unavailable demon hunter skills
  
• Demon Hunters excelling at Combat and Monster control
  
• Weeding out useless skills and how customization is still high
  
• Set items and how they might play out in retail
  
• Gear choices based on difficulty setting or act
  
• Using crafting as a supplement to gear drops
  
• Choosing the right class for your playstyle
  
• Protection % on tooltips is actual damage reduction, not rating change
  
• choosing different types of skills for the same goal
  
• Dealing with monsters with shields
  
• General strategies you can use for dealing with monsters
  
• Ability to skip the Leoric death scene and 4 pillars event
  
• Enemies rendering on the Line of Sight rule
  
• Considering your strategy and build before encountering a boss
  
• Inability to use Town Portals in Boss fights
  
• High loot drop chances for first time kills per difficulty
  
• Identifying rare items
  
• Given rares compared to random "in the world" rare drops
  
• A brief look at passives and what kind of opportunities they present

Spoiler

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I also made 2 more primers based off of part 4 above.  If you're looking for something abit more bite sized, they might be what you're looking for.

Diablo 3 Systems Primer - Primary Attributes

Spoiler

Diablo 3 Systems Primer - Followers & NPCs

Spoiler

Edited by KageKaze, 15 April 2012 - 10:59 AM.

[shiva911]

Kage, love the videos, just curious if you plan on doing barb for patch 16.
ty.

[KageKaze]

Aye, Barbarian is next in line.  My guess is that the next class revealed on http://reveal.diablo3.com is going to be the monk, so he'll be next for me too.

[sacridoc]

I'll repost this here from the YouTube comments... I didn't want to keep bumping this thread if there's some restriction on it.

In relation to the 4th DH video...

1) Armor does in fact reduce all damage taken, not just physical. It's just a different way of getting to the same result you get with Intelligence (and truthfully dodge as well).

2) It's been said that there are intervals where you get less dodge per point of dexterity. This system seems pretty awkward and they could perhaps change it at some point. In general, Dodge is somewhat awkward because it doesn't get better in a linear fashion but rather becomes exponentially better the more you have of it.

3) Important to keep in mind that life on hit (as well as procs most likely) should have an interal cooldown and probably some sort of penalty associated with it that is unknown (at least to me) at this point.

4) Rubies are one example of things that increase experience gained by a % (in addition to shrines).

5) I'm pretty sure you can dodge missle attacks, it wouldn't make sense if you couldn't.

Edited by sacridoc, 15 April 2012 - 08:23 PM.

[KageKaze]

sacridoc, on 15 April 2012 - 08:22 PM, said:

I'll repost this here from the YouTube comments... I didn't want to keep bumping this thread if there's some restriction on it.

In relation to the 4th DH video...

1) Armor does in fact reduce all damage taken, not just physical. It's just a different way of getting to the same result you get with Intelligence (and truthfully dodge as well).

2) It's been said that there are intervals where you get less dodge per point of dexterity. This system seems pretty awkward and they could perhaps change it at some point. In general, Dodge is somewhat awkward because it doesn't get better in a linear fashion but rather becomes exponentially better the more you have of it.

3) Important to keep in mind that life on hit (as well as procs most likely) should have an interal cooldown and probably some sort of penalty associated with it that is unknown (at least to me) at this point.

4) Rubies are one example of things that increase experience gained by a % (in addition to shrines).

5) I'm pretty sure you can dodge missle attacks, it wouldn't make sense if you couldn't.

I think I responded to some of those, though I think I misunderstood the last point.  I thought you meant dodge as in move out of the way, not dodge as in the mechanic.

I posted an annotation on the primer version of the primary attributes as it's something I'm not sure of, but wanted to make sure I put the information out there.  I think Blizzard making this guide site they are talking about would be great to clear up the question on how these things work in detail.  It doesn't seem right to me that armor should also reduce magical damage.  That means they end up stacking.  I like the idea of having to balance out magical defense (resistance), physical defense (armor), and vitality but I suppose that could get too unwieldy in a fast game like Diablo.  Especially since dodge also factors in there. Hrmmm...

I want to keep an eye out on that life on hit issue.  I'm not sure if it has an ICD, but it would make sense with faster abilities.  I'd have to do testing on that one.

[sacridoc]

Yeah, it fits with their whole one size fits all kind of style.

Also, the way it works is that the more you stack of one attribute, the better it is for your defense. As in... having 40% reduction from Armor, is better than 20% from Armor and 20% from Intellect. But what should happen is that after a while there will be diminishing returns on stats so a Barbarian will still want to get Resistances for that reason, perhaps making 20% + 20% better to avoid diminishing returns.

Dodge is still weird though. Perhaps there will come a point where Dodge will be good to get because you have diminishing returns on the other 2 defensive areas. Of course I have no idea if these diminishing returns actually exist for Resistances and Armor... we'll have to find out.

[KageKaze]

Starting the Barbarian series up after 2 patches.  No major changes to the class, but the world has changed, so it's quite fun.


Diablo 3 PATCH 16 - Final Countdown:  Barbarian part 1
Levels 1 - 5
Skills:  Bash, Hammer of the Ancients, Cleave, Ground Stomp, Rend

Topics-

• Developer Diary II unlocked at http://reveal.diablo3.com
  
• Monk video released on IGN (Monk unlocking on reveal site)
  
• Unarmed DPS and assumptions on how the damage is calculated
  
• Unarmed + offhand does not invoke Dual Wield mechanics
  
• Overview of the Fury system (throughout start of the video)
  
• Brief look at blocking stats
  
• Completing bonus objectives when questing
  
• Front loaded damage Vs. Back loaded damage
  
• Clarifying how armor works according to tooltips and feedback
  
• Closer look at comparing shields
  
• Brief look at Dual Wielding and resource generation
  
• Bonus damage included in tooltips
  
• Monsters killed by the environment will give XP
  
• Skills that alternate weapons or are mainhand damage based
  
• Lack of beta optimization, reason for choppy video

[sacridoc]

Notice how 1.15*1.31 doesn't equal 1.62 and 1.15*1.30 doesn't equal 1.51... doesn't seem to make sense really.