[Daemaro]

Yeah it probably looks bad in public but oh well. The more someones is on TV the more bad things that will come out.

[3CXOD]

It's just a matter of time. lol

[Magistrate]

Well, stuff like this is going to be nullified by the fact that he was just recently elected. Stuff like this will probably matter more later when he's been in for some years.

[Legilimens]

3CXOD said:

Although I understand what Legilimens is trying to say I have to agree with this statement right here.

I agree with that statement too. I didn't mean to imply that it was okay to be a dick in private as long as you appear to be a saint, I just thought "Bad choice of words on his part"

[HARDCOREPOORE]

equinox your treating him like a regular person when the president should not be. right now our president is taking advantage of the emotional state of the country right now. listen, as much as it is a good idea, you cant publicy take money away from anyone.... it has to be everyone or noone. there is no way you can just say give me the money back, publicly of course

[VegasRage]

Legilimens said:

I agree with that statement too. I didn't mean to imply that it was okay to be a dick in private as long as you appear to be a saint, I just thought "Bad choice of words on his part"

Honestly after 8 years of hearing a Bush butcher the English language, form incoherent sentences, and embarrass the nation every time he talked or even set foot in a room, I'm OK with Obama's poor choice of words. My son at the age 5 spoke proper English better than our president. That is mortifying; he made us look like a nation of Neanderthals, the product of a failed educational system. I thought we would never see anyone in office dumber than Dan Quayle, I was wrong.

His trail of cringing shame - Bushisms
http://politicalhumo.../blbushisms.htm

His latest 5 entries
"One of the very difficult parts of the decision I made on the financial crisis was to use hardworking people's money to help prevent there to be a crisis." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 12, 2009

"I'm telling you there's an enemy that would like to attack America, Americans, again. There just is. That's the reality of the world. And I wish him all the very best." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 12, 2009

"In terms of the economy, look, I inherited a recession, I am ending on a recession." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 12, 2009

"I guess it's OK to call the secretary of education here 'buddy.' That means friend." --George W. Bush, Philadelphia, Jan. 8, 2009

"So I analyzed that and decided I didn't want to be the president during a depression greater than the Great Depression, or the beginning of a depression greater than the Great Depression." --George W. Bush, Washington D.C., Dec. 18, 2008

This post has been edited by VegasRage: 28 March 2009 - 03:22 PM

[Blackwing]

But boy do the late night talk show hosts love him!

[3CXOD]

There are some very ignorant people in this world.

[Equinox]

HARDCOREPOORE said:

equinox your treating him like a regular person when the president should not be.

Let's throw away the "should" and realize that he is, in fact, a regular person.

HARDCOREPOORE said:

listen, as much as it is a good idea, you cant publicy take money away from anyone.... it has to be everyone or noone. there is no way you can just say give me the money back, publicly of course

I don't see any arguments here. Just "can't" and "has".

Coming from a guy with a bloated superiority complex, what am I supposed to think of your "should" or "can't" or "has"?

[HARDCOREPOORE]

what kind of government takes money from people, oh yeah communists. if the president is a regular person, then the system has failed. the president has to be the best of the best, there is no way the president should have equal intelligence to the common person

[Greg Gluebag]

Come on, he makes fun of the special Olympics, President and comedian in one? Count me in.

[Siaynoq]

HARDCOREPOORE said:

what kind of government takes money from people, oh yeah communists. if the president is a regular person, then the system has failed. the president has to be the best of the best, there is no way the president should have equal intelligence to the common person

I can't even begin to describe the irony of this statement. What are you saying? That all of our presidents should or do have more intelligence than the average president? All of them? For real?

Eh, and why are you claiming that just communists take money from people? All government costs people money, some governments are more expensive than others and some governments payout more to the taxpayers. Stop using your vague generalizations to try to prove your points. None of it makes sense.

This post has been edited by Siaynoq: 29 March 2009 - 10:17 PM

[USAFNBC]

HARDCOREPOORE said:

what kind of government takes money from people, oh yeah communists. if the president is a regular person, then the system has failed. the president has to be the best of the best, there is no way the president should have equal intelligence to the common person

I am utterly and completely against the Obama administration, and I am also completely and utterly against the ridiculousness of this statement. This kind of post is not only viciously wrong, but offensive in its state of confusion.

[Equinox]

HARDCOREPOORE said:

if the president is a regular person, then the system has failed.

The system fails when it is unable to reach its goal. The goal of this system was simple: to elect a president by a majority vote. It does that every time. So far as that happens legally, the system works. If the results of it all are not as you'd want them to be, maybe you need a different system.

HARDCOREPOORE said:

the president has to be the best of the best,

No one is better than anyone else. People are equal in the sum of their existence.

HARDCOREPOORE said:

there is no way the president should have equal intelligence to the common person

So what's your criteria for a good president, IQ? Let's have a national IQ testage and put the person with the highest IQ as president 100% of the time, and see what happens.
Some MENSA people are complete assholes, and should never be anywhere near government.

The president is not about intelligence or whatever. He's about how to rule the nation the correct way. And that's simply a certain branch of ability. He's just like the engineer, the teacher, the athlete. Except his profession is not drafting or teaching or catching balls, but ruling and coordinating the people around him. The person president should be one most able in that field.

[Daemaro]

Agreed. Politics SHOULD be about fairness, justice, equality, and balance. Nothing to do with high IQ's and inflated egos.

[USAFNBC]

Hardcore,

Obama is a hindrance upon the American people because Statism is a failed ideology, and he perpetuates and expands it. The man is not the problem, although he is creating many. The root is deep in centralist and collectivist filth. I will delve into this in larger detail in a later post.

[Nocturne]

HARDCOREPOORE said:

what kind of government takes money from people, oh yeah communists.

Wrong. Every kind of government takes money from people - it's called taxes. Communism seeks to make an equitable distribution of wealth and eliminate any class structure, thus creating equality amongst people. They focus on the role of the proletariat to rebel against the upper classes and take control of the government.

HARDCOREPOORE said:

if the president is a regular person, then the system has failed.

Is this what they've been teaching you kids in school these days? *Shudder*

It is very apparent to me that you have not studied functions of Congress. The system is not just the president. The House of Representatives and the Senate work in tandem. Each must pass the bill before it reaches the president. And even before a bill passes, the legislature is worked on by committees before the finals drafts are even voted on. The president has the ability to sign or veto the bill. If he vetos, the Congress can still override his decisions.

What about this system requires the president to be "more than a regular person?"

HARDCOREPOORE said:

the president has to be the best of the best, there is no way the president should have equal intelligence to the common person

You are sadly misinformed - I don't know where you get these ideas. I know plenty of people who have equal or higher education than Obama and equal or higher IQ. Obama is a person like any of us. His charismatic qualities have people following him but this does not make him infallible. His mistakes are already costing the Unitied States. Furthermore, the president doesn't have to be anything except what the public believes to be the best candidate. (And the party they represent must believe this candidate will achieve the party's best aims - not the people's)

Intelligence in presidency is overshadowed by charisma and the public's view of the candidate. If this is your bottom line for presidential politics, you are gravely mistaken. Obama is a figurehead, nothing more. He may have a good education, he may have a high IQ but no more than any other Harvard Grad. He was born into a good situation into a network of rich people that supported him - if only everybody was that lucky.

[Lydeck]

As far as the whole 'special olympics' things goes ... most people I've asked about it actually like him more after that. Not because of the comment, but because it shows he's an actual person. That, and they did think it's funny actually.

[HARDCOREPOORE]

where did IQ come into play at all?

No one is better than anyone else. People are equal in the sum of their existence.

hahah joke, not everyone is equal.

all you guys are doing is putting words into my (fingers?) mouth whatever.
obama is stealing money from the american people what dont you get about that.
they found a loophole in the system and exploited it (fact)
touche, cut ur looses and thats it.

if obama takes money from these people, whats to stop him from taking avg joes life savings

[Lydeck]

You're looking way too far into this. It's almost like you're one of the conspiracy dudes that always has bad things to think about the government.

The government gave them billions to bail out their company. How did they repay them? By using some of the money to give bonuses to their employees, to go on company huntings trips, to send their executives to exclusive day spas and resorts.

At some point you need to realize that the government is not doing anything to threaten average joe's life savings. I'm not even sure why you'd think that. Public outcry was raging over this issue, and the President acted upon it. Yes, what he's doing is technically illegal; but what AIG was wrong on so many levels. I don't think you're going to find many sane people complaining about the government getting their money back after it's been carelessly wasted by a company that pretty much spat in not only the governments - but the people's face.

And please inform me as to how he's taking money from the American people? He's taxing AIG out the ass - not the people.

This post has been edited by Lydeck: 30 March 2009 - 03:30 AM