maka, on 29 September 2013 - 05:06 PM, said:
riptide, on 29 September 2013 - 04:51 PM, said:
maka, on 29 September 2013 - 04:39 AM, said:
Why are you not considering that they might just fiddle with the % of damage reflected? I think that's a possible solution.
Because it's worse than a flat dmg as a solution.
We already know they don't want any 1 shot mechanics, at the very least on normal elites, and that they are focusing on more constant dmg(than we even have now) and less burst. They aren't going to make it so reflect dmg can turn on and you kill yourself a % dmg will certainly do that.
That would make it so early on when you're gearing up, it's a free mod that may as well not be there. Meanwhile when you're at the gear ceiling, you 1 shot yourself. So what they would have to do is impose more rules to make that solution work. That seems like more work for little gain.
Besides a flat dmg increase makes your character feel more powerful as it gets gear. Instead of the % which makes you feel weaker and goes against the whole idea of the game. The only way you can outgear a scaling percentage of incoming dmg is to have a scaling percentage of incoming healing. Which they don't want anymore.
So, it's a problem that the % reflected is a free mod when you're gearing up, but it's not a problem that the flat damage becomes a free mod when you're geared?
Yeah, no contradiction there.
Also, I don't 1-shot myself anymore on RD, so, if you do, maybe you should rethink your character.
In the situation behind "% vs. flat damage" what needs to be ultimately accomplished is having it be difficult when you're starting off and not well geared, but then when you become better geared it is less difficult but still somewhat difficult. When comparing these two scenarios, we have to ignore life steal, because in RoS that won't be able to be counted on so readily to counterbalance the incoming reflected damage.
To me, flat damage is a lot easier for Blizzard to manipulate because it takes one variable out of the equation: DPS. All they have to do is look at EHP when determining a flat value returned to your character as damage. All they have to do is consider these extremes: (1) what damage a character with low EHP would take and (2) what damage a character with high EHP would take and pick an appropriate flat damage rate to return. Because there's only the variable of EHP they can easily pick a flat value that is punishing no matter what your EHP, but different degrees of punishing based off that EHP. They can easily pick a flat value that is neither overwhelming or negligible.
When calculating a percent of damage you throw in that extra variable which concerns the character's DPS. What would a character (1) with low DPS and low EHP (2) with low DPS and high EHP (3) with high DPS and low EHP (4) with high DPS and high EHP. Factoring in DPS creates a more compelling mechanic concept, but it also creates possible imbalances if not done properly. Note that I am not saying it can't be done or that it shouldn't be done, I just think it is a lot more difficult for Blizzard to balance.
So the question lies really in whether or not Reflect Damage should be a mod that punishes high DPS/low EHP but is more or less ignored by low DPS/high EHP, or should it just return a flat value that is easier to balance and punishes low EHP more than high EHP but is difficult no matter what. I think both individually are possible it just depends on how Blizzard wants Reflect Damage to ultimately work as a game mechanic, but to me they are mutually exclusive and can't work in tandem. One gives us a more compelling dynamic that can be extremely punishing or completely negligible while the other is easier to balance and if done properly will always be different degrees of punishing.
I personally like the flat damage choice, because I find dying to one mechanic based on gear choices to be pretty excessive. It doesn't feel good to be to have to stack EHP just because I might run into one affix when otherwise if I never saw it I would have been fine without the extra EHP. I don't think one affix should hold that much individual power to influence gear choice. But it should also be noted that reflect damage pulses so maybe it is fair to have it be that punishing since you shouldn't be attacking when it is triggered? That's really up to Blizzard to decide if that is to be the deciding factor. But then again, I don't like the idea of it being negligible either by just stacking enough EHP in comparison to your individual DPS. A flat damage return would be easier balanced to not cause that to happen.
Edited by itirnitii, 29 September 2013 - 05:59 PM.