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I've seen it too much in WoW and it continues with D3 because the CMs are typically less informative with D3. Far too many people bitch and moan with useless feedback that wastes their time. So as I said, complaining is useless when it's not constructive and the majority of people could do a much better job at providing constructive feedback to the devs. Telling them nothing more than that it's bad or not fun and they need to improve it is completely useless.

Your expectations of people are set to high my friend. Getting constructive feedback from everyone would be ideal but its just never gonna happen. My point is that 100 people saying something is wrong (said constructively or not) is better than 10 people saying something is wrong and it being set on the back burner because the issue didn't seem important. So while it may seem useless to only say " I am not happy with this feature." it is another voice drawing attention to the problem and letting the devs know that more than 10 people have an issue. Hopefully moving a fix up on the priority list.

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stopped by to say... didnt click the video after the failure from the admins of this site to control the content posted ..... have yet understand how posting someone with a gun to its face is an okay thing to do

same guy, different video, with a look that seems threatening is not helping curse's or the guy's cause....

Go QQ somewhere else. It was a fucking joke.
Quin is right for this itemisation.

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I've seen it too much in WoW and it continues with D3 because the CMs are typically less informative with D3. Far too many people bitch and moan with useless feedback that wastes their time. So as I said, complaining is useless when it's not constructive and the majority of people could do a much better job at providing constructive feedback to the devs. Telling them nothing more than that it's bad or not fun and they need to improve it is completely useless.

Your expectations of people are set to high my friend. Getting constructive feedback from everyone would be ideal but its just never gonna happen. My point is that 100 people saying something is wrong (said constructively or not) is better than 10 people saying something is wrong and it being set on the back burner because the issue didn't seem important. So while it may seem useless to only say " I am not happy with this feature." it is another voice drawing attention to the problem and letting the devs know that more than 10 people have an issue. Hopefully moving a fix up on the priority list.

Obviously it's not going to happen, but that doesn't mean people shouldn't attempt to inform others of the situation in order to improve the feedback provided. I'm not expecting this from everyone, but more so from people who read this forum for instance. Even only motivating a handful of people to actually provide constructive feedback is a hell of a lot better than just ignoring the issue of people being completely nonconstructive. Just because people can easily leave feedback that's completely useless doesn't mean we should leave it at that when just one person providing insight can be the difference.

And Quin only talk abouth hes beloved monks...
Shift the gun to a shootgun this time.
He rants just cous hes pissed of due to the nerfs to monk builds, gues what Quin, im pissed of by the resent nerf of Jade set for wd and the nerf for saders thorns build...

Except that he mentions the situation is the same with items for other classes, Everything he says in this video is spot on.

No, it should be utility only. Period. Ability to cast wol as ranged spells is a LITTLE NICE BOOST if you care to utilize it.

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thats exactly what it is.. hes crying about he cant play the same build that actually was a build u couldnt work with, and than after it gets nerfed, hes crying so HARD about he need to pick one of the builds that cant be wroked at at all ( have he even tried to make builds with those items ) i dont think so..

All builds have like 1 items or 2 they can change if they can even change 1 before it will bring u down in the rank on the leaderboard. i dont even think he have tried to work with those items, u see in hes video with a green set hes talking about the items are for..
Who, dont say u can use them with the new green ring acient item buff. or somehow do something els..

The biggest Laugh im having about this video, and sry QUinn u make great video's but sry Dude.

Have u forgotten what PTR is for.. ?= and how many times they nerf and buff things ??? have u damn forgot they are doing these thing to figured of if it is a bad thing or not. ??

Stop crying please it make u look so cheesie

MarryX tho. please stop crying, and do it when it go live instead, everything can happen and u should be one of those that understand what PTR is for m8

That's what you got from his video? How is he crying when he is exactly right? It's not about item interaction anymore. You just can't pass on a massive static damage multiplier to play with very cool item interactions. By buffing the skill not the items this allows item interactions and utility to shine. Lets say you had an item that has 500% increase to CA damage, with an affix that says, You're a demon hunter, shoot stuff pew pew, Now lets say you an item that says, When your cluster arrow fails to critically hit 5 consecutive times, your companions attack speed is doubled. No damage multiplier. Really, which are you going to take? I mean just seeing that second affix makes you think, how could I make that work? Then you start making item lists of potential interactions and how to abuse the mechanic. It makes the game interesting. You're just being daft for the sake of being daft with nothing really to offer the conversation and that helps no one.

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" Hey, Lets get mad about PTR Nerf even tho the PTR gave us more than we had " Quin = Fucking Idiot. Always has been tho.

You're cool.
Totally pointless post. No mention of any nerfs in this vid, but he is the idiot? If you are talking about a previous vid, you posted in the wrong place, but again, he is the idiot? Either way I only see one fool here.
As far as 2.4 giving us more than we had. Generally happens with every patch. The ptr is there to test and give feedback. Part of that feedback is addressing issues you see with nerfs or itemization. Quin is doing just that. I thought the SC vid was hilarious. I don't think him acting mad was serious. It was meant to be funny.
As far as coming on here just to call someone an idiot does nothing but make yourself look bad.

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Im 100% agree with Quin, Good Job- like always

But now, to all ppl that post like " guy with gun to it's face have nothing to say" and to ppl that agree with that - guys...Quin is the only one person i know that doing sooo much to imvrove D3, to fix issues, to give us an idea how we can improve our gameplay
You are missin the point of this thread and video talking about 'gun into his face', after that 'shooting to himself he said that was a joke !! guys u have to finish that video before you write something stupid, he also said why that was a joke and why that static nerf was great

But even then, this is not a place to comment that, the point of this thread is something else so mods, please delete those replys

Sorry for my english, i hope u understand what im talking about.

Loads of people try to come up with ideas to help and improve the game but sadly none of them are streamers or some you tuber who gets money handed to them by fans. Sadly we have people who try really hard to come up with ideas and get ignored or trolled. No the problem is the player base shits on every one and anything with a good idea, and only listens to crying and bitching. Because as much as Quin is half right about the problem he does not come up with a way to fix it.

his way to fix this is remove op dmg buff from those items as he said in video, in my opinion - blizz should fix this in their own way, we (Quin) show them the possible issue and that is already enough for me, i dont have great idea how to fix it but.. this is not my or Quins job (or other players)
If some1 comes here with a great way how to fix it - nice but it will be still blizz job, Quin as a player already did good thing talking about that issue. and we are here cuz that can be big problem for players who looking for fun, not more numbers

Some1 can say - "if you are looking for fun so big numbers and %dmg on items is not your problem, u can wear something else"

but for some ppl fun is also pushing high ranks and to get that high ranks we are forced to wear that "broken" items

Who says the item is broken? only you and a couple angry people, seems to me it is working as blizzard wants it, which makes it not broken. Please google what the word broken means next time.

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Im 100% agree with Quin, Good Job- like always

But now, to all ppl that post like " guy with gun to it's face have nothing to say" and to ppl that agree with that - guys...Quin is the only one person i know that doing sooo much to imvrove D3, to fix issues, to give us an idea how we can improve our gameplay
You are missin the point of this thread and video talking about 'gun into his face', after that 'shooting to himself he said that was a joke !! guys u have to finish that video before you write something stupid, he also said why that was a joke and why that static nerf was great

But even then, this is not a place to comment that, the point of this thread is something else so mods, please delete those replys

Sorry for my english, i hope u understand what im talking about.

Loads of people try to come up with ideas to help and improve the game but sadly none of them are streamers or some you tuber who gets money handed to them by fans. Sadly we have people who try really hard to come up with ideas and get ignored or trolled. No the problem is the player base shits on every one and anything with a good idea, and only listens to crying and bitching. Because as much as Quin is half right about the problem he does not come up with a way to fix it.

Obviously you did not watch the whole vid. He did offer a solution. Remove the bonus dmg from the items and buff the skill itself.

I did watch it all thank you very much, but nice try, but I'm sorry but that fix does nothing mate, But I guess you think your all game designers because you watch a streamer talk about something.

Kind of sad reading every thing with people saying just buff the skill.... It was only a couple days ago same type of people screaming about buffing skills make gives more power creep LMAO, my god people change there minds fast. and even if the skill is buffed no one will use the skill because there will be a better item that gives more % to damage, so your idea of only buffing the skill does nothing. I think blizzard calls this arm chair developers... lol

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I did watch it all thank you very much, but nice try, but I'm sorry but that fix does nothing mate, But I guess you think your all game designers because you watch a streamer talk about something.

Kind of sad reading every thing with people saying just buff the skill.... It was only a couple days ago same type of people screaming about buffing skills make gives more power creep LMAO, my god people change there minds fast. and even if the skill is buffed no one will use the skill because there will be a better item that gives more % to damage, so your idea of only buffing the skill does nothing. I think blizzard calls this arm chair developers... lol

A nerve was struck! You laugh, but you're insight into skill usage is still WAY off. The skills in question (buffed or not) will be used for builds in 2.4. As far as power creep. Its power creep whether the skill is buffed or it receives a buff from an item affix. Buffing the skill itself and removing the buff from said items just opens up more options as far as gearing.
I am pretty sure, unless it was totally outrageous things asked for, that Blizzard has never called anyone giving feedback an arm chair developer. I do know they call out trolling when it happens though.

Great news post! But not enough guns to the head! More pictures of guys with guns to the head please!

To people that like to be diffucult; there are enough readers out in the world to come to this website if you all piss off, which is what I'm assuming you're threatening with.

Guess what, I have both been suicidal and know someone that hung themselves. I can manage to come to this site just fine. If you can't don't come here, but stop telling people what to do. You're not the government, you're not police. Your feelings really don't matter to the rest of us.

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Im 100% agree with Quin, Good Job- like always

But now, to all ppl that post like " guy with gun to it's face have nothing to say" and to ppl that agree with that - guys...Quin is the only one person i know that doing sooo much to imvrove D3, to fix issues, to give us an idea how we can improve our gameplay
You are missin the point of this thread and video talking about 'gun into his face', after that 'shooting to himself he said that was a joke !! guys u have to finish that video before you write something stupid, he also said why that was a joke and why that static nerf was great

But even then, this is not a place to comment that, the point of this thread is something else so mods, please delete those replys

Sorry for my english, i hope u understand what im talking about.

Loads of people try to come up with ideas to help and improve the game but sadly none of them are streamers or some you tuber who gets money handed to them by fans. Sadly we have people who try really hard to come up with ideas and get ignored or trolled. No the problem is the player base shits on every one and anything with a good idea, and only listens to crying and bitching. Because as much as Quin is half right about the problem he does not come up with a way to fix it.

his way to fix this is remove op dmg buff from those items as he said in video, in my opinion - blizz should fix this in their own way, we (Quin) show them the possible issue and that is already enough for me, i dont have great idea how to fix it but.. this is not my or Quins job (or other players)
If some1 comes here with a great way how to fix it - nice but it will be still blizz job, Quin as a player already did good thing talking about that issue. and we are here cuz that can be big problem for players who looking for fun, not more numbers

Some1 can say - "if you are looking for fun so big numbers and %dmg on items is not your problem, u can wear something else"

but for some ppl fun is also pushing high ranks and to get that high ranks we are forced to wear that "broken" items

Who says the item is broken? only you and a couple angry people, seems to me it is working as blizzard wants it, which makes it not broken. Please google what the word broken means next time.

Thanks for advice.. i know what broken means and still they are broken in my opinion. can i have my opinion ? many things that blizz did in past was "broken", then they change or remove those broken items like 'mortic bracers'. this is ptr man so that items can be broken even if they works good for you or blizz at this moment, for me that items dont work good, that's why im here, and you? why are u here ?

No, actually you don't know what broken means to be honest, All the items quin and others in this thread have brought up are working exactly as intended.
A "broken" item is one that is commonly considered to be exceedingly over-powered, or has an ability that is inherently degenerate, and has a large game impact.
As you can see, that isn't Quins beef, at alllll.

If the damage was built into the skill and not the item, another item would take the place of "best in slot" and would make the skill even more powerful. It's an endless cycle of powercreep.

He did offer 1 way to help fix it, which was put that skill damage that's on the items on the orange text instead. Then at least we could cube it if we wanted and use another items in that slot that we'd have preferred but still want that damage increase.

Easy solution:

Change the buff text to some other color, pink for example. And have the cube extract 3 buffs. One for wepon, one for armor, and one for jewelry. You would pick the buffs like you do with legendary powers.

Done

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This video is a joke!You would never, NEVER, would've used Tempest Rush under different circumstances - and guess what? Now you can.
Why? Because it's not a complete shit of a skill anymore.

You
complain about Blizzard making skills no one uses into viable through
empowering items? And what you suggest instead is to buff the entire
arsenal of skills instead?
That's the most stupid thing i've ever heard!
Items
should make skills stronger, not the raw dmg % of the skills. It's a
farming game, and you play to find better loot to make your toon
stronger. If the toon already strong to begin with, saying 960% weapon
damage on Tempest Rush - wtf is the point in playing?

You didn't understand the point of his argument in the video. He's not against the bonuses themselves, but the bonuses are the problem because now, you HAVE to wear that specific piece in order to build that play style, which allows no additional diversity of gear choices and play styles to mix and test into the build.

Being locked into specific gear for a build actually takes away from the game experience. It's basically slapping people in the face who try to think outside the box and experiment with gear to find new exciting ideas and playstyles. Everyone is going to have the same action bar, same glyphs, same passives, and it's a monotonous grind that comes down to who can sit and play 24/7 (ladders) or who has the most fashionable transmog (casual).