The Full Guide to Obtaining the Infernal Machine, Important Information on Monster Powers, Blizzard Talks WW Barbs, Blizzard on

Obtaining the Machine by Scyberdragon
The first thing a player must do to fight the Uber Bosses is to create the Infernal Machine. In order to create the machine you need 3 keys and the plan to craft it.

  • Key 1 - Found on Goat Mutant Key Warden in the Fields of Misery (Act 1)
  • Key 2 - Found on Dune Dervish Key Warden in Dahlgur Oasis (Act 2)
  • Key 3 - Found on Morlu Spellcaster Key Warden in Stonefort (Act 3)
  • Infernal Machine Plan - Found on Terror Demon Key Warden in Silver Spire Lvl 1 (Act 4)
  • The Key Wardens will always spawn in each Inferno game.
  • Monster Level does not matter.
  • You must have a 5 stack of Nephalem Valor for the drops to even have a chance of dropping.
  • If you do it on monster level 10 with your 5 stacks, you are guaranteed the drop.



Using the Infernal Machine
After creating the machine, the player has to activate the portal to enter the three realms with the Uber Bosses.
  • The machine needs to be activated in the Heretic's Abode found in New Tristram.
  • The portal will open up one of the three locations randomly.
  • The Realm of Discord - King Leoric and Mahgda.
  • The Realm of Turmoil - Siege Breaker and Zoltun Kulle.
  • The Realm of Chaos - Ghom and Raknoth.
  • The machine only works to open a portal one time.
  • A new machine will need to be crafted each time to open another portal.
  • The portal remains open until the bosses are defeated or you leave game.
  • The Vengeful Eye, Devil's Fang, and Writhing Spine, needed to craft the Hellfire Rings, are not guaranteed drops.



Screenshots
Special thanks to Buleh and Moldran on Twitch. All images come from them streaming their games while getting the Infernal Machine and fighting the Uber Bosses.






Important Information on Monster Powers
Blizzard confirms some key information on Monster Powers, a new system now active on the 1.0.5 PTR.

Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

The current difficulty in 1.0.4 is roughly equivalent to Monster Power 2 or Monster Power 3 in 1.0.5. (Monster Power 0 is just the setting the game will default to when you first log in.)

Is Monster Power 0 = "No Monster Power" in the choose quest options?
Correct!

And if so, are the monster levels 61/62/63 for A1/2/3? Or even on 0 are they 63/63/63? Thanks.
Monster Power is considered "on" once you bump it up to Monster Power 1, at which point all monsters in Inferno become level 63. "No Monster Power" means that the system is technically "off," so monster levels will remain the same and you won't get any of the scaling XP/GF/MF boosts.

Must be bugged then, because MP1 the bosses tear through my char where normally it was only the rarest of the rare that could do that with my MF set.
Are you a) playing on your witch doctor and B) using a very similar build to what's in your profile? This is just for context so I can pass on the information (though you might also want to report this in the PTR Bug Report forum)

I haven't logged on yet to see but does the increase to monster power increase chances for higher end ilvl's drops in Act 1 or 2?.
So, the moment you go into Inferno with any kind of Monster Power (e.g. Monster Power 1 and above), all monsters become level 63, and they can now all drop iLevel 63 items the same way that Act III and Act IV Inferno currently do. However, bumping up Monster Power beyond 1 will not further increase your chance of getting iLevel 63 items.




Blizzard Talks WW Barbs
WW Barbs have been hitting the forums day and night talking about what will happen to their build. Blizzard hit the forums to talk about these changes.

Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Run the Like Wind makes WW/double tornado barb a very strong build by combining multiple benefits into one neat little package: life regeneration, Fury gain, damage, in-combat mobility, and run speed. It's all there. Ask just about anyone (or take a look at the posts in these forums) and they'll tell you WW barbs are incredibly powerful, and it's also one of the first builds people point to when the word "nerf" is mentioned.

I think most players -- whether they'd admit it publicly or not -- probably agree that the tornadoes left by sprinting (a skill that provides utility, huge mobility, and proc effects including Life On Hit and Into The Fray) shouldn't be so powerful in comparison to other skills that have restrictions on them. Like Hammer of the Ancients, which requires you to stand still, swing, and who's sole purpose is to deal damage. We'd like to bring the skill more in-line with other build options, and we think that from a pure design standpoint the problem is tornadoes triggering procs, most specifically Life on Hit.

The survivability you get from WW with LoH is definitely an outlier compared to other available builds. This wasn't a huge issue previously, but once we introduced Monster Power it became clear that we needed to make some adjustments. Basically, when we were doing our initial testing for 1.0.5, anything that didn't kill WW barbs in the first second of combat failed to be any sort of real threat, and that applied even after scaling Monster Power up to its higher settings. The amount of damage enemies do at higher Monster Power levels is pretty insane, and while the WW barb was still doing fine, it felt punishingly unfair to every other class and barbarian build.

This introduced another problem: if a WW barb could heal from empty to full health in half a second, then for any monster to pose a threat it would need to take you from full to dead in less than half a second. We could certainly make damage more spikey, but most players don't enjoy being insta-gibbed, and we tend to agree that going from full health to DEAD without ever seeing your health hit those intermediate values can make combat feel a little shallow. Having times when you want to play more conservatively vs. more aggressively can add depth to combat and make it more interesting, so (in general) we try to avoid creating situations where spikey damage is the norm.

So, even though we really liked the build, in the end all the data was telling us that WW needed to be changed.

They like nerfing fun builds.
Just to give you some history, when we started to troubleshoot how we could better balance Run Like Wind, we didn't want to remove the ability for tornadoes to trigger procs completely. Rather than break the build, we wanted to find ways to reduce the sheer efficiency of it without removing the fundamental mechanics that make it work. We also discussed options outside of adjusting its proc coefficient, too:
  • We looked at just nerfing Sprint's tornado damage, which would allow us to keep the core mechanics without the build being greatly more effective than every other build in the game, but the life regen still made the game too bursty at the higher Monster Power levels.
  • We also looked at reducing the run speed. But, the running speed boost is baked into Sprint, so it felt wrong to consider changing that aspect of the skill. The fact you have in-combat mobility is a fundamental property of leaving tornadoes behind as you sprint, so if we removed that aspect it'd be the same as deleting the skill from the game, and we're not interested in doing that.
  • The last alternative was Fury cost. You gain Fury with WW, but it comes from Battle Rage – Into the Fray. Into The Fray seems to interact just fine with other skills, which really underscores that the real issue is the tornadoes’ ability to proc effects.
After a lot of internal testing and heated debates, we ultimately decided to address the core of the issue and reduce Run Like Wind's proc coefficient, and we brought it down by a significant amount (from 0.2 to 0.08). We want to make sure whirlwinding is still viable, though, so to compensate, we also dropped down Whirlwind's Fury cost from 16 to 9. This should make it possible for players to still whirlwind continuously, but it lessens the need to have Sprint in order to use Whirlwind at all.

Of course, we're really looking forward to players jumping on the PTR, testing out the changes first-hand, and sharing their feedback. We're still working out a few kinks with the PTR client, but hopefully we can start getting that feedback pretty soon now. :)




Blizzard on Energy Twister

Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

In 1.0.4, we reduced Energy Twister's proc coefficients from 0.25 to 0.125, and applied that change to four of the five runes. Problem is, we intended that change to apply to all five runes including Storm Chaser, so we're correcting that mistake in 1.0.5 (it's going from 0.5 to 0.125 to match the others). It could probably be considered a bug fix at this point, but for the sake of clarity we're listing it as a normal change in the PTR patch notes. We might change that plan for the live notes, but it really depends on your feedback. :)

As for why we changed Energy Twister's proc coefficient at all, Wyatt summed that up nicely in his original class preview blog for 1.0.4: http://us.battle.net...n/blog/6939564/

Comments

  • #21 Robzy
    Quote from Raz0r_boy

    Quote from Gramexery

    I guess that the random stats are.. *puts on sunglasses*, pretty random. yeahwwww
    [SARCASM] Wow, u don't say?? [/SARCASM]
    I guess that u didn't exactly understand the question, so let me clarify for u...
    All items can't carry all affixes, for example, boots don't carry critdamage, shoulders don't carry sockets etc etc...so the "random" magic properties, are randon within a specific pool of possible affixes. It's these affixes i'm interested in


    I suspect the rings will likely have ring affix pool assignment, I know legendaries do not adhere to their item class affix pools, but I feel the ring probably will as they have access to a very large affix pool.
  • #22 SkipperMix
    Quote from Raz0r_boy

    Quote from Gramexery

    I guess that the random stats are.. *puts on sunglasses*, pretty random. yeahwwww
    [SARCASM] Wow, u don't say?? [/SARCASM]
    I guess that u didn't exactly understand the question, so let me clarify for u...
    All items can't carry all affixes, for example, boots don't carry critdamage, shoulders don't carry sockets etc etc...so the "random" magic properties, are randon within a specific pool of possible affixes. It's these affixes i'm interested in


    Dont you think its just the one that are possible for correct rings like All res, Crit hit, crit dmg, atk speed, vit etc
  • #23 Vulmio
    Do the Ubbers drop regular loot also or just the ring parts ?
  • #24 ScyberDragon
    1. Yes, all new keys are needed to craft more than one machine.
    2. No, you do not need to get the plan again. Just once to teach your BS.
    3. It appears each ring mat drops from specific über bosses. Although this is not verified. They did get two different mats from two different bosses.
    4. You can craft multiple machines and open multiple portals at the same time.
    5. Not sure about the ring props. Since its legendary, it's possible but more likely it draws from the ring prop pool.
  • #25 TheHungryOne
    Anybody else got the "no d3 license attached to the account" ? Or maybe someone knows the workaround?
  • #26 Vulmio
    Quote from Vulmio

    Do the Ubbers drop regular loot also or just the ring parts ?


    Also since now affixes are determined by the level of the monsters, how affixes will be determined for crafted items ?
  • #27 SkipperMix
    Wonder if it will affect the rings stats if you defeat the bosses on power lvl 10 compared to 0
  • #28 Darklink68
    Having to farm all three keys, which apparently have a really low drop rate, for every portal is just annoying grind.
    They should make each key correspond to one of the realms and only consume that key when you go to that realm.
  • #29 Zek
    Having to re-farm the keys makes perfect sense because they don't want people farming bosses over and over, that's been the case since the very start. Now that all the acts are the same difficulty, just do normal farming runs across the three of them and add the key wardens to your run. Then once in a while you get an Infernal Machine and can try for another ring. I do wish you didn't lose the machine the moment the portal opens whether or not the boss dies though...

    There are various rumors about how Monster Power affects things - it makes keys drop more often, it makes ring mats drop more often, etc... Nothing confirmed though as far as I know.

    Quote from UberMey

    Im not getting it right, is mf affecting the affixes roll?

    what should the mlvl improve on drops? I just cant see a good point on it, more mf means more rares, more rares means more time lost identifying trash as the affixes are just bad ...

    http://us.battle.net...ment#magic-find

    MF improves the chance of any given magic drop being a legendary, or a 6 affix rare, or a 5 affix rare, etc. So the items you find will be of a higher quality overall.

    Each stack of monster power doesn't make a huge difference, but activating Monster Power 1 changes all of Act 1/2's monsters to be Act 3 difficulty. That includes their droprates.
  • #30 Efrye
    Quote from JkW

    Quote from Raz0r_boy

    So basically they will be an addition until u find all the mats for the ring..and then they' re useless...

    No. Because the stats on the ring are RNG, you want to farm more of the ingredients :)


    Which is not a good thing considering the 4 random properties. I am Ok with farming keymaster with a CHANCE to drop a key, just like in D2, that is Ok. But it stops where the uber bosses only have a chance to drop materials for the ring aswell. This would be tolerable if the chance of getting a crap ring wasn't like 99%, but I am not going to farm this shit for weeks just to get one crap ring after another.
    Just too random: chance for key, chance for materials, 4 random properties. Random is Ok, but this is too much variables.
  • #31 Fl4sh123
    I dont get their problem with the CM Wizard build. They say they needed to nerf it because of the new legendary procs. Please tell me which legendary proc is so powerful that it would be a gamechanger? None of it deals that high damage, maximus is nice, but everyone uses that on the follower, because the weapon is not that great. I dont think this reason can justify nerfing a very fun build. I played all classes, my main is not a wizard, but it would be great to see different characters in my party doing different things (i feel boring to play with 4 of the same class, even the same build). If wizards loose the CM/SC build and they probably loose the infinite archon build because on higher monster powers u cant keep archon up) than noone will farm with wizard...
  • #32 Zek
    Quote from Fl4sh123

    I dont get their problem with the CM Wizard build. They say they needed to nerf it because of the new legendary procs. Please tell me which legendary proc is so powerful that it would be a gamechanger? None of it deals that high damage, maximus is nice, but everyone uses that on the follower, because the weapon is not that great. I dont think this reason can justify nerfing a very fun build. I played all classes, my main is not a wizard, but it would be great to see different characters in my party doing different things (i feel boring to play with 4 of the same class, even the same build). If wizards loose the CM/SC build and they probably loose the infinite archon build because on higher monster powers u cant keep archon up) than noone will farm with wizard...


    Having a skill with a broken proc coefficient is just too good at too many things. Crazy survivability with life on hit, crazy legendary procs, crazy triggering of skills like Critical Mass and Into the Fray, etc. It just breaks the intent of that game system and kills build variety like we've seen with Barbs. Like they said, once they introduced the higher levels of Monster Power it became clear how insane an advantage it is to get so many of those procs.

    If your build doesn't work at MP10 that really isn't a big deal, just don't farm it. They're very specifically designing it so that you never have to touch it if you don't want to and you can still farm all the best loot.
  • #33 Fl4sh123
    Quote from Zeyk23

    Quote from Fl4sh123

    I dont get their problem with the CM Wizard build. They say they needed to nerf it because of the new legendary procs. Please tell me which legendary proc is so powerful that it would be a gamechanger? None of it deals that high damage, maximus is nice, but everyone uses that on the follower, because the weapon is not that great. I dont think this reason can justify nerfing a very fun build. I played all classes, my main is not a wizard, but it would be great to see different characters in my party doing different things (i feel boring to play with 4 of the same class, even the same build). If wizards loose the CM/SC build and they probably loose the infinite archon build because on higher monster powers u cant keep archon up) than noone will farm with wizard...


    Having a skill with a broken proc coefficient is just too good at too many things. Crazy survivability with life on hit, crazy legendary procs, crazy triggering of skills like Critical Mass and Into the Fray, etc. It just breaks the intent of that game system and kills build variety like we've seen with Barbs. Like they said, once they introduced the higher levels of Monster Power it became clear how insane an advantage it is to get so many of those procs.

    If your build doesn't work at MP10 that really isn't a big deal, just don't farm it. They're very specifically designing it so that you never have to touch it if you don't want to and you can still farm all the best loot.


    I agree that procs are powerful and they should be balanced correctly. But as i see these kind of games are fun to play if you need a lot of work to get highend gear but when you managed to get that you can be very powerful (even Jay Wilson said once, that they want archon wizards to feel they broke the game). Its not a bad thing if you can feel you broke the game, but it should happen only with insane gear (archon wizards had to get really good gear to work at all). So i think they should balance the proc, but with this nerf even with the best gear in the game you cant make the build work, because its not possible to get 90% crit chance).
  • #34 xMantasx
    And if so, are the monster levels 61/62/63 for A1/2/3? Or even on 0 are they 63/63/63? Thanks.
    Monster Power is considered "on" once you bump it up to Monster Power 1, at which point all monsters in Inferno become level 63. "No Monster Power" means that the system is technically "off," so monster levels will remain the same and you won't get any of the scaling XP/GF/MF boosts.

    Yes! Thats exactly what i wanted to know. I wasn't sure about it. It means i can farm where i want, switching between acts if i get bored in one. This clarification is better for me than the whole infernal machine thing.
  • #35 lorien1973
    Quote from Zeyk23

    Those guys handled it no problem, but got their butts kicked by Skeleton King + Maghda. Turns out SK does a ton of damage and double tornado isn't such a great build for avoiding attacks.

    SK + Maghda seemed like the easiest combination. Especially since both are exeedingly predictable alone. Maybe the 3 phases where Maghda is invulnerable might be interesting. But beyond that?

    Dunno. Rakanoth sucks, though. That's all I know. Hate that instant kill teleport attack.
  • #36 Cyeron
    So I come home from a long day at work

    Start up the PC and hit the news

    Makes some coffee

    Read a bit and enjoys the new info

    then... BAM

    8 screenshots with a chick with a gun in the corner

    Dafuq?
  • #37 Gashz
    Quote from Cyeron

    8 screenshots with a chick with a gun in the corner

    Dafuq?


    He just want to cover the chat.
  • #38 Ameko
    Just toss it out here: I did the Key Warden in Act1 8 times without the key dropping once.
    Inferno monster level 6

    So I don't expect the drop chance of the key to be anywhere close to even 40%
  • #39 Zek
    Quote from Ameko

    Just toss it out here: I did the Key Warden in Act1 8 times without the key dropping once.
    Inferno monster level 6

    So I don't expect the drop chance of the key to be anywhere close to even 40%


    Did you have full NV? I've heard it helps(or maybe just that MF helps) but take that with a grain of salt.
  • #40 phatosen
    With the addition of monster power, does this make it viable to farm Act 1 and 2? For example, would it be viable to farm Act 1 on let's say monster power 5, and get the same amount of ilvl 63s as I would on Act 3 at a lower monster level? For arguments sake let's say Act 1 mpower 5 compared to Act 3 mpower 3.
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