Skill Calculator and Diablo III In-Development -- Class Skills, blue posts

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Diablo 3 Skill Calculator Updated For Patch 13
The Skill calculator has also been updated with patch 13 skillrunes, make sure to check it out! 2.0 is Ready for Diablo III
Bashiok commented today that the current state of 2.0 is just about how we will see it at release.

Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Just about everything is set as it will be at release. There will certainly be tweaks here and there, and some small improvements, but no, we don't have any current plans to change the chat channel interface.

We understand the requests, and have seen some of the creative suggestions, but we're in the home stretch and aren't looking to delay the release of the game further. Honestly speaking only a small portion of players will care if the chat channels are like they are, or if they're more like the huge screen-dominating feature in D2. We have to apply value to the additional time it would take to address a small amount of requests for a change, and it just doesn't outweigh releasing the game.

Skill Runes Continued
Yesterday, we reported some conversations going on about the reasoning behind the Rune system change. Conversation continues with Bashiok.

[blizzquoteauthor='Blizzard' blue='' battle='']I'm asking because I'm having a hard time understanding how exactly this new system is more beneficial to both parties then the old one?
Well runes weren't a good addition to the item hunt because once you had six of one type, you never needed any more. Unless you mean the attuned system, which wasn't a bad system out of context, but its an inventory nightmare.
Ranks were not compelling or powerful, and they certainly had no impact on customization. They might make you feel cooler because you got lucky and found a higher rank, or bought one, but thats not a good enough pro to outweigh the cons. They were gradual increases in power, and only a few of them actually changed the mechanic as they got more powerful. Magic missiles is the one example... and it's one of only a few. Also not all rune variants scale well. It's more important to us to have a lot of variety with big impactful changes to a skill than gradual upgrades. It was almost requiring us to remove some rune effects and try to think of new ones that were more like other rune effects because they just couldn't scale well.
With the measured unlock we can guide a new player through their skill, passive and rune unlocks in a way that eases them in to more and more complex mechanics. That doesn't compromise the end game when everything is unlocked, and for the aforementioned reasons, big 'concentrated coolness' changes to your skills is a bigger pro than the few smaller pros, and even more cons, the other systems offered.

So why not at least give us a choice of what runes to earn while we level, instead of awarding them in the same static order?

Fundamentally we don't think that's a bad idea, but the guided structure has far more value for more players. Instead of building two different UI's, one of which will really only appeal to the hardcore players and require more development time, we go with the guided structure because the hardcore players are only in that guided structure for what will be a short window of their total amount of play time. It's a bang for the buck decision, which aren't always popular but have to be made. We do want you to play this game at some point, and we think you'd rather do that than wait longer but be able to pick rune unlock order while you're leveling.

We're trying to be smart about rune unlocks, and ideally hardcore players (knowing more about the mechanics) wouldn't even want to pick the runes we're not unlocking. Sure you could choose to pick a mana regen variant at level 2... but you wouldn't. Also, it's an awesome way to reward players all the way to 60, and putting some of the more impressive rune effects at the later game could encourage more people to keep playing past Normal.

I do think it's weird that people want to be restricted, but then don't like it when we have restrictions. Obviously not necessarily the same voices, but it is a rather mixed message. :) I think the answer is of course having restrictions where they make sense... but ... just a slightly interesting observation. Maybe? Im tired.

Hey Bash, just wanted you to know that some of us understand why the design decisions on skills/runes were made, and some of us actually understand that not everyone is going to be running around at 60 with the exact same skill/rune/gear loadout.
Cool! It'll be fine. It's fine!

I don't want it to feel like I'm fighting with anyone... I hope it's a helpful discussion ... in some way. I'm not sure how it may be for everyone, especially those that are in complete opposition... but... maybe someone will read it and get some good info. :)[/blizzquote]

Diablo III In-Development -- Class Skills
Blizzard has just posted a blog for showing off some new skills, the links are currently not working.

Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

Starting today, we're going show off some new, some improved, and some previously unseen class skills that you'll use to slaughter your way through Diablo III's acts.

The skills we’re spotlighting are drawn from a variety of classes and levels, and most of them aren't available in the Diablo III beta. We've decided to showcase only "base" skills, unaffected by runes, but their rune variants are no less explosive (there are just a few too many of them to display here).

You can find each skill video we've posted on the appropriate skill page in the Game Guide, or simplyclick the links below to watch them in action. Keep your eyes on the environments that these demon-slaying displays take place in, too — you'll notice a few unfamiliar, exotic locales.

In the future, we'll release more videos on this blog exhibiting different skills you'll unlock throughout Diablo III. Remain vigilant.

Barbarian Demon Hunter Monk Witch Doctor Wizard


  • #1 Zhuge
    Interesting. The skills are going through a reiteration and redesign phase. Its close though...
  • #2 lorien1973
    Man those stream slowly.

    The numbers on earthquake have to be a mistake. 1600% damage? The rune effects are almost meaningless in comparison.

    Gonna be impossible to pick skills. They all look so awesome. :(

    Wow, the monks are the worst. Everyone else is like boom goes the dynamite. Monk is like slap fighting.
  • #3 Molster
    no joke

    and thats no mistake at all
  • #4 Lodim
  • #5 Tenhi
    The links work... but the Vids dont work^^ Not that that changes anything :P
  • #6 Lodim
    I need to play the beta to learn about the skill because i do not like this calculator.
  • #7 Kuyam seems to work for the skills calc.
  • #8 Maka
    Isn't the Barbarian skill Revenge more like a passive, now? It just seems silly to have a skill in your skill-bar that you'll never actively use (aren't they called active skills?)
  • #9 FreddyBenson
    ok i wtached 2 of the barb videos and that it

    not watching anymore, reason is that i want to see it live, wasnt expecting to see what i saw ( the envoirement)

    but good stuff :)

    ty guys for posting it
  • #10 Kuyam
    Quote from maka

    Isn't the Barbarian skill Revenge more like a passive, now?

    The way i read it it's not passive but a spell that cannot always be used, but only after it procs after being hit. Once it procs, you can use it.
  • #11 Tenhi
    Quote from maka

    Isn't the Barbarian skill Revenge more like a passive, now? It just seems silly to have a skill in your skill-bar that you'll never actively use (aren't they called active skills?)

    Isnt it more like the Overpower from WoW? When it becomes "active" you have to press the button for the effect to go off. Even if its a "15% chance passive" its still a pretty powerful skill if you ask me... rune it for 30% activation chance and you get a 220%dmg AoE that heals 5%maxHP every ~3rd Hit Oo

    Edit: And why the heck arent the Vids working for me :( I get the "Rated 17+" sign and then nothing... the player just stays black <_

    Edit2: Now they work... zomfg
  • #12 lorien1973
    What's weird is that I finally leveled my DH in the beta. got her to 13. I hated every minute of it. It's just not that enjoyable. But; I had my longest kill streak with her (108 - jar of souls event) and it was easiest to destroy the environment with her with the strafe ability.

    And these DH videos here look totally awesome.
  • #13 bmfalex
    amazing, they look great!
  • #14 Tavarish
    Quote from Zhuge

    Interesting. The skills are going through a reiteration and redesign phase. Its close though...

    Isn't this more like "Hey, we have skills finalized and now we show them to you one by one as teaser" kinda situation? Meaning skills are more and less final and now they just use those for hyping.

    Liking new skill calculator tho why have "Action Bar Skills" been named? Slot 1 "Defensive", Slot 2 "Tactics" etc. Makes no sense to me because you can put any skill into any slot. Also this whole "We show skills in action too" -function inside of Game Guide is neat for those who just can't get enough D3 and want see that extra that bit.
  • #15 Immnemanja
    they said new skills that we havent seen since i am only into wizard i cant say that 1 of those is new maybe changed numbers but all the same -.- i was so happy expecting something new maybe archon skill or something
  • #16 Pyms
    just looking at these skills, makes me want to play this game soo soo soo soo bad!! I envy the development team that get satisfaction by showing this to us! seriously taunting!
    and by the way, does the graphics look alot better??? or is it just me
  • #17 Tenhi
    Anyone noticed the HUGE sword in the Acid Rain vid xD? What the hell...
  • #18 Immnemanja
    just you its the same just dif zone...blizz did say that the graph wont change from how it is in beta
  • #19 Mayne
    Does this mean the build beta contest will be starting soon?
  • #20 stebo88
    Just a little fun fact: The new skill tree was made by gearvOsh, the administrator over at &
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