Zarhym posted to let us know we should be getting a nice article about the development status of Diablo 3 in the near future.
Official Blizzard Quote:
Jay Wilson just wrote up a lot of good new info on the #D3 development status which we'll be releasing in the near future.
Near future... Are you able to specify further and say that it "might" be out this week, e.g?
Not this week. (source)
What's NOT Delaying the Game
Some hot topics on what could be delaying the game have always been the possible console version of the game as well as the South Korea rating. Zarhym gave us a quick post that neither are delaying the game.
Official Blizzard Quote:
It's safe to say the potential banning of your game from one of your biggest markets has something to do with something
Is this confirmation people still believe that has anything to do with anything?
We've said it's not impacting our development process or release schedule. If you think it's a conspiracy I can't help you.
Hello sir - how will the console version of #DiabloIII impact the release date?
It won't. Actually, our console hires have been helping us with the PC/Mac version. (source)
Zarhym On "The Big Meeting" and More
You may remeber the "Big meeting" Zarhym tweeted about. A lot of rumors were going around about what this might be about. Zarhym has come and put down those rumors.
Official Blizzard Quote:
If you're looking to our personal Twitter accounts for any hints of information that might help you ascertain a release date of Diablo III, you're going to be disappointed.
I'm assuming you're referring to my tweet about a "big meeting." I have several meetings a day and just felt like being silly on my personal feed on a Monday morning. Was it really enlightening or informative? No. Was there ANY indication that meeting had anything to do with Diablo III development or release? No. (Because it didn't.) Do I sometimes tweet about the weather, cute cats, rocks on the ground, and other random stuff that won't bring you any closer to your copy of the game? Totally.
If you guys don't have anything of importance to say please do us a favor and don't say anything.
Since everything you mentioned in your OP was taken from Twitter, I'm assuming you're asking that we not use our personal social media accounts to communicate with anyone until our company announces a release date for Diablo III.
The unfortunate fact is we're human beings. We use social media to communicate with others about day-to-day affairs, whether or not what we're saying pertains to our jobs.
If you want to follow what we're saying, awesome. But if you feel like any post we make that has anything to do with our careers, yet isn't breaking news about the status of Diablo III, is just a huge tease or attempt to bait you... well, you're crazy... and almost as excited for this game as we are.
Nope, I'm not demanding anything. I'm suggesting that when it comes to a product release date they shouldn't announce a buisness meeting specifically regarding that project and through offical channels without having some actual information to present to the community.
After reading this post I'm quite confused. Do you have a link to an announcement made via one of our official channels where we said we were having a business meeting about a product release?
I'm pretty sure what you're referring to doesn't exist. It actually seems you, or someone who told you this, filled in a lot of blanks incorrectly.
So saying "WE HAVE A BIG MEETING AND YES ITS ABOUT DIABLO 3!!!1" on twitter isnt a tease?
when everyones been tearing their hair out to find out when the games released? (4 months after saying the game was in a polishing stage)
First of all, that's quite a bit of paraphrasing what was actually said. Second, I'm a community manager. I don't think you understand how many meetings I have about Diablo III which have absolutely nothing to do with a release date. We do what we can to plan out announcements and generate website content based on the timeline given to us by other departments.
There are quite a few people who work at Blizzard, many of whom do not work on Diablo III. Just the same, there are many people (like me) who do work on Diablo III in some capacity, but aren't working on things you're necessarily dying to know more about right now.
Since my post about being in a meeting seems to have been such a mean tease, I'll tell you more about it. There were six people in a room and we were discussing the functionality and layout of a few web pages, as well as what text still needed to be filled in and what the best way is to get localized versions of each piece of text generated for the site.
Please contain your excitement.
Spoiler alert: we also have a meeting tomorrow with Jay Wilson and other lead Diablo III developers (as we do every Thursday). One question which will almost certainly not be brought up is: so when are we releasing the game? Instead, we'll be asking about all of the cool things they're working on now to make the game even better.
We want the game out just as badly as you do, but we're not going to sacrifice quality or implement systems that don't feel fleshed out just to get the game in your hands. It has to be a game worthy of being in your hands.
This is what everyone is referring to. As to how legitimate of a site this is. I dunno.
diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/release-date-decided
I speculate that such blind speculation yielded a lot of page views.
So zarhym is this to mean we shouldn't expect any news in the coming weeks for diablo 3?
No, we have a post from Jay Wilson in the works that does a good job of explaining what his team is currently working on. We want to give you all a status update on the design of some of the systems we either haven't fully fleshed out yet, or are still scrutinizing. It'll likely be followed by an update to the beta servers and you can expect the post probably late next week.
You do understand that everything you guys post on twitter ends up as a thread on here right?
If you KNOW people are going to take every little bits you give them and run with it then why are you giving it to them at all?
I don't report on Twitter. I post about random things in my life and pretend people care. If I mention I'm in a meeting and confirm it has something to do with Diablo III, I'm not backing down just because a couple of bloggers decided to drum that up with crazy speculation and assumptions. THAT can more aptly be referred to as "nothing to report of importance."
If you think Bashiok deciding to shave one day is some cosmic sign Diablo III is being delayed beyond some date we never confirmed in the first place, you're in for heartache. We don't live, eat, and breathe Diablo III milestones. Sometimes we do things in life -- and post about those things -- even when they don't fit into a master puzzle which must be completed in order for you to possess a copy of the game.
Fair enough, but why is the topic of a release date "certainly not (going to be) brought up?" I mean, if it's never brought up because no one wants to rush anyone else, how can it be decided?
Believe me, there are plenty of folks within the company discussing development schedules, product release projections, and all that jazz.
It's not the community team's role to work with the developers to determine a release date. Our meetings are to talk about gameplay, systems, features, story, etc.
Actually, in this tweet we have a confirmation that what was discussed during that meeting WAS related to Diablo III (and therefore in some way related to the development of Diablo III)
No, a meeting related to Diablo III is not therefore related to Diablo III game development. We have websites and all sorts of other things surrounding the Diablo brand which we talk about in meetings.
We understand you have many meetings, in some cases more than one per day, but you have never gone out of your way before to communicate to fans about them before (aside from major meetings / quarterly reports). Which made us think that this meeting was special in some way.
I have spoken about being meetings many times before on my Twitter feed. Sometimes I've posted pictures from those meetings. The fact that people chose to care so much about these few tweets from Bashiok and me, because a couple bloggers tied them together in a pretty package to stir up hype, is ridiculous.
And as much as some people hung on every word of said tweets, they sure misinterpreted them.
Right now I see May, maybe April as being the earliest it will be released. As much as that sucks.
Just stop. Please don't take that two and put it with the other two. They don't need to be mashed together in a downward spiral where everything said is between the lines. It's not. I'm not using a language you need to decode. I'm trying to get you to stop thinking there are secret implications behind our words. Read what is being said and think about it for a least a few minutes before deciding how it is/isn't a sign of when the game will be released.
I didn't say the company isn't discussing release dates. I...
Too many people, it would seem. It's great you guys strive to make such a polished and satisfying games, but I get the feeling there is/are a lot of second-guessing/conflicting ideas.....
I understand what you said, but I want you to know you took what I said and then ran into a huge tangent. Your statements aren't really based on information I gave you, nor are they accurate. Having more staff in the company, particularly for customer support and community development, shouldn't be used as evidence to argue there are too many cooks in the kitchen.
Compared to the rest of the gaming industry, you'd probably be surprised by how small the Diablo III development team is. And the reason it's relatively small is because we do want it to be a family of highly talented individuals who have a certain synergy to challenge one another -- developers who know what they like and don't like, but at the end of the day can come together and agree on a design vision.
I just caution you not to assume that our company's growth has diluted the development teams into bland groups of programmers plugging away for a paycheck. Our weekly meetings with the Diablo III developers are amazing because of how passionate they are about their game. They know what they're doing and aren't being blocked by bureaucracy, as you seem to be suggesting.
Also, with all of these extra people with jobs like community manager and whatnot, it would be pretty great if somebody could find the time to actually tell the community what in the hell is happening.
Isn't this thread sort of about the opposite? We're being told not to saying anything unless it's really important and directly related to the release of the game.
We told you at the end of last year we wouldn't be shipping the game until 2012. That didn't mean we'd have the final details ready to announce by January of this year. We'll share with you whatever information we can whenever we can.
This is slightly unfair, because the OP's topic came from the misguided point of view that you were indeed tweeting about a realse date meeting (because of a certain fan sites spin).
Fair enough. Looking back, it's pretty unfortunate that a few unrelated postings here and there on the internet were tied together into what seemed like the start of the biggest Diablo news of the year. :\
So what really happened? I had a typical Monday meeting and Bashiok shaved. (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
Put yourself in our shoes, we know NOTHING about the current state of the game
It's in the polish/test phase. You know that, but you want details we can't provide. We just want it to be awesome at any cost. (source)
When money is no object for a developer they can go back to the drawing board as often as they like. Yes, it's frustrating to have our hopes smashed over and over, but it's a game. We're not investors. We're not waiting on Blizzard to deliver some life saving drug. It's a game. It's taking forever to come out, it's annoying, but it's completely out of our control.
This will go down as a massive black eye for their reputation.
This is getting really ridiculous. When there's no logical explanation, something is up.
I couldn't agree more. Yet still, these comments and feelings will fall on deaf ears, once again.
Sometimes I think the Blizzard we used to love, the Blizzard that put many jokes in Warcraft 2, 3 and Diablo II, kinda dissappeared into a huge business, which sole goal is money. It seems more and more that the community is being ignored, teased, and played with.
And, once again, all what I'm saying will fall on people who can't do a thing. I REALLY wonder how many of Blizzard's guys PERSONALLY feal about this.
From all the forums I've gone through, Blizzard have some of the strangest fans ever. They act like spoiled children.
Which is all just so strange. I must say, over at the Guild Wars community it's like light and day compared to over here (not to mention the WoW community, it's like eternal darkness over there). You seldomly find the fans complaining, they mostly look for ways to support the game. And when they do complain, it's mostly in a constructive way. A few times a random person will appear with the intent to disrupt everyone, but they don't last long.
ArenaNet is also not as forthcoming with their information. They mostly stick to giving information when they feel right, releasing stuff when it's finalized. In some regards they are even slower and more clandestine than Blizzard.
You liking my likes? ;o
FML.
I was under the impression Blizzard's reputation was based on them taking their time to make awesome games, despite financial or fan pressure.
But perhaps you guys have a much better understanding about Blizzard's reputation then I do, so I'll be curious to your responses
"the game is being delayed for no reason" you guys are either blind or just flappin your gums about shit you know nothing about.
awesome, thanks Molster!
NP! that thing is a MASSIVE pain when writing big articles, so I feel you =P
Sure, Blizzard is going to make money off the RMAH, but it's better than one of the possible alternatives that would have fragmented the Diablo 3 economy. There's a market for people to buy items in the Diablo universe, that's pretty clear from the spam bots and third party sites in Diablo 2's games...
Not to mention the third largest forum on the internet, according to http://rankings.big-boards.com/ where someone created a made up digital currency that people started using years ago to facilitate Diablo 2 trades because of the lack of in-game economy. I'd much rather have Blizzard making money off of it than some guy who had nothing to do with developing the game, while also fragmenting the in-game economy into people who use that site and people who don't.
There are 54 MILLION topics in their D2 trade forums, and 258 MILLION posts... There are people invested in that digital currency and it's likely some will continue to use it, but I'd rather have more and more incentives for people to abandon that practice. I don't want that crap in Diablo 3, I want an open trade community that isn't fragmented because of their past shortcomings.
Sorry for the rant, back on topic. I think it's a little sad that Z has to take the defensive and clear this whole thing up, though I think it was for the better at the start, at least. Things could be handled better, but I'd prefer information as often as it becomes available. Some of the silence on the issue is causing people to grasp at every bit of information, hoping for what we all really want, a release date. It really seems like they should probably either try to smooth over the quiet periods with some new info more often or keep the whole thing silent until the big news because the way it's going seems to really stir people up.
Yeah it must be a pain in the ass to run interference while Blizzard continues to never be satisfied with their game that's taking longer to develop than WoW.
They dont owe you anything. Be patient.
It's that investment in time (we're talking over 15 years) by many of these people that are making people feel hurt. For people, their is money and that's what is touching nerves. I'll admit that every now and then I'll get pi$$ed off at the delays too but Blizzard is Blizzard. Another thing driving this is fear, probably the fear of an indefinite delay or even cancellation but probably the fear of the game simply failing to meet their personal standards. Think about it like this - if your friends kept on telling you for years and years about a certain sports car, it'll wet your appetite. You'll want it, it becomes a symbol even a goal. then when you buy it you discover that the car drives like a donkey cart and you'll be hurt. You won't know why you're hurt but you'll feel it.
Another thing I've noticed is that alot of people are acting like addicts, blaming the dealer when there's no crack to smoke but failing to see that they have the issue happening. Well, maybe that analogy is a bit harsh but there are similar behavioural patterns.
Anyways, time to change the flat tire in my donkey cart
I think a big part of it is that if after probably 5 years of development they are still not happy enough with it to set a release date it potentially says something about the game sucking. Fear is rising that the game is going to suck, the longer they wait the higher our expectations, and the fact that they aren't satisfied with it makes it 10x worse. Their insecurities with it get translated to us 100x over as fear and frustration.
Some people are really purposefully obtuse when it comes to the RMAH. This is definitely for the betterment of the game, foregoing a clear foothold for all of the illegitimate misfits who ruin the game, and it will lessen hacks and bots. I don't know why people are so hellbent on battling something that is for the betterment of the game. Moreover it's a completely optional tool for a non-competitive game. I don't know what more can be said about it.
A list of things people have protested against when they were introduced:
- Electricity
- Internet
- Telephones
- Mobile Telephones
- Automobiles
- Television
Though obviously, in hindsight, they were right, and these were all very bad inventions that did not benefit mankind at all! ^^
They mention any little thing at all and someone creates outlandish accusations and cry rivers of tears because they feel that Blizzard owes them.
My god, shut the ever living fuck up.
And for Diablo fans to put so much stock into every single word, of every single tweet by Blizz, is moronic. Blizzard Community Manages are snarky and indirect. If people are going to try and read between the lines, and think there is some deeper meaning in every tweet sent out by a Blizz CM, they're going to wind up pulling their hair out.
With all that said, I look forward to the supposed "update" in the coming weeks, and I expect they will release some "news" by this time next week.