Web Content Manager, RMAH and Regions, and Peripherals

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RMAH and Region Availability

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I'm assuming you're not purposefully misquoting him to try to make your post factual. Let me go ahead and transcribe what he actually says in the video you linked:

"You're just buying Diablo III. You can play it anywhere in the world. So you guys get to choose. Now what we will do is we will lock you down to a specific auction house. So for instance if you're a European national you'll have access to the European auction house, but you'll still be able to play in North America. You can participate in the gold auction house anywhere in the world, right, but you can only participate in the real money auction house in your native country."

Which sort of makes the rest of your post baseless in its conclusions. But that's ok! I appreciate everyone trying to unravel the secrets, and it's fun for me to read, so keep at it. :)

Linking multiple region's economies?
Characters are still region based. Just like Diablo II. You could log in to USWest, or USEast, or Europe, or Asia, but you had different characters on each. There's no possibility of trading between regions.

I'm sort of taken aback now... How are so many people directly misquoting or misinterpreting things while simultaneously linking to the exact source that proves what they're saying is inaccurate?

What I said was:
We've spent a very long time working with our legal departments around the globe researching regional laws and regulations, if not obtaining government approvals. We announced the feature because we know it to be sound from a legal perspective. If any local or country-specific laws do become an issue we'll of course be sure to let people in those regions know.

All of that is true, and continues to be true to this day.

Can we play with friends on different regions?
You can, but you'd need to log in to the EU region and create a character to begin playing with him, or he'd need to make one in your region. If you're on your character in SEA and he's on his in EU you'd be able to talk to each other using your BattleTag or Real ID, but that's it. You have to be on the same region to play together.

Is the GAH global?
The gold auction house is not global. You can use each region's gold auction house, but they're all separate, as the characters in each region are separate.

You can only use the currency-based auction house of your home region.

Would we be able to switch to a Euro AH when we provide proof that we "moved" to Europe.
That all sounds right to me. I'm not sure of a process to actually flag your account for another region though, even with proof. It's possible that could happen but I'm not aware of any intent to support that.

Switching of regions?
No plans at this time. I would count it among 'pretty unlikely' due to the real currency ramifications.

Charging a percentage or a flat fee for currency transactions?
You're only charged a percentage if you cash out through PayPal.

Making a character in any regional server you choose?
We haven't announced anything along those lines because as far as I know it's not nailed down. We do pursue different business models and prices in different regions, and so we'd want to ensure that those offerings are for who they're intended. I just don't have specifics for you, but it's something we'll need to announce before ship.

How does one get assigned a home region?
That's not something we're ready to discuss, and obviously we'll need to choose the information we do give carefully. Circumventing this wouldn't just be a 'fun trick on Blizzard' it would very possibly be a violation of serious trade laws, so we have to take it seriously.

Access to other region's RMAH
Each region is compartmentalized. Character's on one region cannot play with characters on another region. Similarly, each region has its own gold and currency-based auction houses. Only characters on a region can use that region's auction houses (and of course a restriction from the currency-based if it's not your home region). (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)




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Comments

  • #1 Greenjoke
    I want that headset very much. I think I'll write it a love letter.
  • #2 pikke

    Official Blizzard Quote:

    There's no possibility of trading between regions.
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    Characters are still region based. Just like Diablo II. You could log in to USWest, or USEast, or Europe, or Asia, but you had different characters on each. There's no possibility of trading between regions.


    I take this mean Europeans like me can "Make a character in any regional server they choose"

    But the answer to that very same question is:


    Official Blizzard Quote:



    We haven't announced anything along those lines because as far as I know it's not nailed down. We do pursue different business models and prices in different regions, and so we'd want to ensure that those offerings are for who they're intended. I just don't have specifics for you, but it's something we'll need to announce before ship.

    while in this other blue post:


    Official Blizzard Quote:



    Each region is compartmentalized. Character's on one region cannot play with characters on another region. Similarly, each region has its own gold and currency-based auction houses. Only characters on a region can use that region's auction houses (and of course a restriction from the currency-based if it's not your home region).

    I wonder if this mean we will have different shared stash for regional accounts? Or just "flagged" characters (and items)?
    Otherwise I could use my USEast WD to buy items in USEast gold AH, put those items in the shared stash, move them on my EU DH and sell them in the EU RMAH.

    This way the

    Official Blizzard Quote:



    There's no possibility of trading between regions.
    would have no real meaning.

    And this:
    How does one get assigned a home region?

    Official Blizzard Quote:


    That's not something we're ready to discuss, and obviously we'll need to choose the information we do give carefully. Circumventing this wouldn't just be a 'fun trick on Blizzard' it would very possibly be a violation of serious trade laws, so we have to take it seriously." class="blizzsource">


    That's not something we're ready to discuss, and obviously we'll need to choose the information we do give carefully. Circumventing this wouldn't just be a 'fun trick on Blizzard' it would very possibly be a violation of serious trade laws, so we have to take it seriously.

    Is something worth a game delay.

    If you can grab two copies of the game and get two different home regions you could effectively link two RMAH and earn money playing on the differences in the markets, at the same time cheating on taxes and local financial laws.

    I just hope I'm misunderstanding all this or at least I hope Blizz will make it impossible to move items from region to region.
  • #3 pikke

    Official Blizzard Quote:



    Characters are still region based. Just like Diablo II. You could log in to USWest, or USEast, or Europe, or Asia, but you had different characters on each. There's no possibility of trading between regions.


    I take this mean Europeans like me can "Make a character in any regional server they choose"

    But the answer to that very same question is:


    Official Blizzard Quote:



    We haven't announced anything along those lines because as far as I know it's not nailed down. We do pursue different business models and prices in different regions, and so we'd want to ensure that those offerings are for who they're intended. I just don't have specifics for you, but it's something we'll need to announce before ship.

    while in this other blue post:


    Official Blizzard Quote:



    Each region is compartmentalized. Character's on one region cannot play with characters on another region. Similarly, each region has its own gold and currency-based auction houses. Only characters on a region can use that region's auction houses (and of course a restriction from the currency-based if it's not your home region).

    I wonder if this mean we will have different shared stash for regional accounts? Or just "flagged" characters (and items)?
    Otherwise I could use my USEast WD to buy items in USEast gold AH, put those items in the shared stash, move them on my EU DH and sell them in the EU RMAH.

    This way the

    Official Blizzard Quote:



    There's no possibility of trading between regions.
    would have no real meaning.

    And this:
    How does one get assigned a home region?

    Official Blizzard Quote:




    That's not something we're ready to discuss, and obviously we'll need to choose the information we do give carefully. Circumventing this wouldn't just be a 'fun trick on Blizzard' it would very possibly be a violation of serious trade laws, so we have to take it seriously.

    Is something worth a game delay.

    If you can grab two copies of the game and get two different home regions you could effectively link two RMAH and earn money playing on the differences in the markets, at the same time cheating on taxes and local financial laws.

    I just hope I'm misunderstanding all this or at least I hope Blizz will make it impossible to move items from region to region.
  • #4 Bleu42
    Quote from pikke


    Official Blizzard Quote:



    Characters are still region based. Just like Diablo II. You could log in to USWest, or USEast, or Europe, or Asia, but you had different characters on each. There's no possibility of trading between regions.



    If you can grab two copies of the game and get two different home regions you could effectively link two RMAH and earn money playing on the differences in the markets, at the same time cheating on taxes and local financial laws.

    I just hope I'm misunderstanding all this or at least I hope Blizz will make it impossible to move items from region to region.


    even if you have two copies, you still can't trade items between. if you set one copy in a different region than another, there's no way to get one regions items to your other copy.

    Also if i screwed up this quote i'm just referring to the grabbing two copies statement.
  • #5 pikke
    @Snaks42: I hope you are right and I think it's the logical way things works.

    I just can't figure what happens in a scenario like this:

    I buy 2 copies and manage to link one to EU and the other to USEast.
    Using the EU account I create a WD on EU and a Wizard on USEast, while with my USEast account I create a DH on USEast.
    Then with my WD(EU) I buy "Griswold Edge" from EU RMAH, I let the item in the shared stash, switch to my Wizard (linked to EU account but playable only on USEast, if I get it right) grab "Griswold Edge" from shared stash and put it for sale on USEast GAH, log off, log on with my USEast account, select my DH (USEast) and go on GAH, buy back "Griswold Edge" aucted by myself, switch to USEast RMAH, put up "Griswold Edge" for sale.

    RMAH(EU)--> WD(EU) --> Wizard (EU but playable on USEast) --> USEast GAH --> DH (USEast) --> RMAH (USEast)

    Do notice that if you can freely swap items between players in a party you don't even need to put it on sale on GAH, you just have to create a game with your Wizard on USEast, invite your DH, join the game and swap the item between characters.

    What's to stop me from doing so?
    I'd say the best solution is different shared stash for each region you play in, this meaning you can't swap items between a character you created on EU and one you created in USEast.

    Probably I'm not getting it correctly, I missed something important amongst the various blue posts about AHouses or I'm just not smart enough to figure it out properly and thus I'm worrying for nothing.
  • #6 Maka
    The problem I see is: Bashiok says that we can create characters in multiple 'realms', but can only access one RMAH? So, I'm from the EU. I buy the game here, it's linked to EU. This means I can only access the EU RMAH, right (my home region, he said)? But, supposedly, I can create a character on, say, USEast. I create that character. The real question then becomes: what RMAH do I use with my USEast characters? The US RMAH? But Bashiok said "You can only use the currency-based auction house of your home region" - my home region is EU. So I'd be using the EU RMAH with my USEast characters? What's to stop me from giving/selling these items in the US realm? ...I don't get it.
  • #7 Vagelis4VP
    if u live in EU and, and u create 2 characters, one to play in EU, and one to play in US, the EU character can use both GAH, and RMAH... while your other character who plays in US can only use the US GAH for his gameplay (which cannot have any contact with the EU GAH), but cannot use the RMAH at all (he will only play with GAH)..
    ... and no, u cannot trade items between your 2 characters of different regions...
  • #8 Diablofan0815
    As I understood this, you can use the EU RMAH with EU characters only *if* the EU is your home region. You can create and play with characters on US East (even if you live in the EU), but you can only use the US GAH and neither the US RMAH nor the EU RMAH (with your US chars). Anything else would be subject to fraud and/or violation of international trading/tax laws.
  • #9 PhrozenDragon
    Quote from pikke

    RMAH(EU)--> WD(EU) --> Wizard (EU but playable on USEast) --> USEast GAH --> DH (USEast) --> RMAH (USEast)

    The problem lies in the WD(EU) --> Wizard (EU but playable on USEast) part. Those two characters cannot trade with each other and do not share stash. Since we haven't really gotten any details on how home regions are locked either I suppose it migth furthermore be hard for you to register that second copy in the US.

    Quote from maka

    The real question then becomes: what RMAH do I use with my USEast characters? The US RMAH? But Bashiok said "You can only use the currency-based auction house of your home region" - my home region is EU. So I'd be using the EU RMAH with my USEast characters? What's to stop me from giving/selling these items in the US realm? ...I don't get it.

    What Vagelis and Diablofan said is what'll happen: you simply won't be able to accessa a RMAH with characters created out of your home region.
  • #10 pikke
    Quote from Vagelis4VP

    ... and no, u cannot trade items between your 2 characters of different regions...


    This meaning we are going to have multiple shared stash, each for every region we have a character? That's what I believe it's the best solution, but have heard nothing about it.

    @PhrozenDragon: ok, so I take it I've missed the blue where Blizz stated we will have different shared stashes. Thanks :)
  • #11 PhrozenDragon
    There's no blue saying that outright as far as I know, but since Bashiok said you cannot trade between regions, this must obviously be the case.
  • #12 Greenjoke
    I wish they would just answer the question half the players actually want to know the answer to: If you live in EU/Americas, can farming teams in Asia sell things on the auction houses you use?

    It seems like they are trying to prevent that from happening, but they aren't sharing all of the information with us.
  • #13 Diablofan0815
    Quote from Greenjoke

    I wish they would just answer the question half the players actually want to know the answer to: If you live in EU/Americas, can farming teams in Asia sell things on the auction houses you use?

    It seems like they are trying to prevent that from happening, but they aren't sharing all of the information with us.


    Of course they can, if the Asian sweatshop is located in the US/EU. This might be one thing the Korean GRB is interested in.
  • #14 PhrozenDragon
    Quote from Greenjoke

    I wish they would just answer the question half the players actually want to know the answer to: If you live in EU/Americas, can farming teams in Asia sell things on the auction houses you use?

    It seems like they are trying to prevent that from happening, but they aren't sharing all of the information with us.

    Perhaps that's because they don't yet know how effectively they will be able to prevent it. A lot of this is going to boil down to how expensive it will be to circumvent these checks, and how effectively Blizzard can police them. Which will be hard to know prior to release.
  • #15 wishedhehadbeta
    Quote from pikke

    Quote from Vagelis4VP

    ... and no, u cannot trade items between your 2 characters of different regions...


    This meaning we are going to have multiple shared stash, each for every region we have a character? That's what I believe it's the best solution, but have heard nothing about it.

    @PhrozenDragon: ok, so I take it I've missed the blue where Blizz stated we will have different shared stashes. Thanks :)


    are you serious? the shared stash is shared between all characters on one account regardless of what server your playing on or what your home region is. the home region lock means that you can only sell items on the RMAH in THAT region regardless of where your characters get these items (us east, EU, us west). so you can get items from all three of these servers but only be able to put them on the home region where its locked... its VERY simple... <_
  • #16 Vagelis4VP
    Quote from WishedHeHadBeta


    are you serious? the shared stash is shared between all characters on one account regardless of what server your playing on or what your home region is. the home region lock means that you can only sell items on the RMAH in THAT region regardless of where your characters get these items (us east, EU, us west). so you can get items from all three of these servers but only be able to put them on the home region where its locked... its VERY simple... <_



    ...yes, now that i think of it, it is very possible to be like u say, if the items in the GAH have the same price/value globally no matter from which region u get them...
  • #17 Frozenkex
    Personally i dont think shared stash will be account wide, its probably gonna be server wide. It makes sense.
  • #18 PhrozenDragon
    Quote from WishedHeHadBeta

    are you serious? the shared stash is shared between all characters on one account regardless of what server your playing on or what your home region is. the home region lock means that you can only sell items on the RMAH in THAT region regardless of where your characters get these items (us east, EU, us west). so you can get items from all three of these servers but only be able to put them on the home region where its locked... its VERY simple... <_

    If this were true, you could still trade with other regions through the GAH. Since your characters outside of your home region can use the GAH, the Shared Stash must be region specific or trading can indeed take place between regions.
  • #19 pikke
    Quote from WishedHeHadBeta

    are you serious? the shared stash is shared between all characters on one account regardless of what server your playing on or what your home region is. the home region lock means that you can only sell items on the RMAH in THAT region regardless of where your characters get these items (us east, EU, us west). so you can get items from all three of these servers but only be able to put them on the home region where its locked... its VERY simple... <_


    As PhrozenDragon said if it works that way you can effectively link different regions economies.
    That's why I wrote the long post above.
    Since RMAH is subject to trade laws, taxes and such, I think Blizz should be careful about how it's managed since they can be held at least partially responsible for any infringements.

    But I'm glad you find it "VERY simple", at least one of us got a clear picture of the whole issue ;)
  • #20 Tenhi
    I dont get this whole matter... some of the quotes seem to contradict each other Oo

    Can we play with friends on different regions?
    You can, but you'd need to log in to the EU region and create a character to begin playing with him, or he'd need to make one in your region. If you're on your character in SEA and he's on his in EU you'd be able to talk to each other using your BattleTag or Real ID, but that's it. You have to be on the same region to play together.


    vs.

    Making a character in any regional server you choose?
    We haven't announced anything along those lines because as far as I know it's not nailed down. We do pursue different business models and prices in different regions, and so we'd want to ensure that those offerings are for who they're intended. I just don't have specifics for you, but it's something we'll need to announce before ship.


    The first quote says that if I'm EU and my friend is SEA I just have to create a char in his region or he has to create a char on my region. And the 2nd quote says that they dont know if its allowed to create chars in every region Oo Isnt that a contradiction? Or is it still in the air if we are allowed to play with friends outside of our homeregion. If its still in the air why does the first quote sound like "Its easy you can do XY"?

    And I'm with maka... that whole homeregion AH matter makes no sense...
    Also it sounds like: I'm EU but play on USEast. So I use the USEast GAH. I cant use the USEast RMAH but I still can use my "homeregions" RMAH. If I understand it right its not "If you are EU and play on an US Server you cant use any RMAH" its always "You cant use the US RMAH, you can only use your homeregions RMAH". Wouldnt that imply that I can use the US GAH and the EU RMAH at the same time? Thus
    linking the two economies Oo?

    That would either mean if you want to use the RMAH in any way you have to play in your homeregion (but there is no bluepost stating that is there) or you can use both your home RMAH and the regions GAH (thus linking the economies Oo).

    On the matter of the stashes... I think they are on a "per region" base. And not on an account base. If the were on an account base they would link the economies...

    Edit: The funny thing is... this whole region matter wont prevent the "china farmers" from selling in your region Oo If all the farmers can create chars on any region they just need 1(!!) guy in the US/EU for the selling Oo So 5000 peeps in china farm shit and 1 guy in the US sells it.... and its not even illegal. And dont think the farmers wont find a guy in the US/EU region to sell the stuff. So my 5000 Friends from SEA create a Char on the EU Server to play with me. Then they farm the shit out of the EU servers... and drop the Items so that I can pick them up (they cant directly accese the EU RMAH because they are from China but I can because I`m from the EU) and then I sell them...
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