More Hopes Dashed, 1.13 Delay Going Strong

Standards continued to waver as the patch faced delay after delay since its official announcement. Today, Bashiok was the unfortunate bearer of bad news yet again.


Official Blizzard Quote:



Update - 11/18
We've recently completed a revised version of the Diablo II 1.13 patch that removes the increased stash size. A larger stash will unfortunately no longer be a feature included in patch 1.13 due to the previously mentioned concerns. As higher priority work continues on Warcraft III we're hoping to complete our quality assurance tests for the 1.13 patch in the next few weeks. But as always, the types of issues that may appear and take higher priority are rarely foreseeable. We continue to plan a release based on our best intentions.

If it is indeed true that increased stash size is now no longer in the picture (see Patch 1.13: Larger Inventory for Diablo II), every top request made by fans when Blizzard ran its fan-request patch marathon (see Tell Blizzard Your #1 Diablo II Patch Note) earlier this year has been denied so far, with the possible exception of skill resets, which we have received no further conformation or details on since it was hinted at:

  1. Increased stash size, which is the cause of the current delay as they take hardware and server considerations in to thought, is so far essentially confirmed [highlight](now debunked)[/highlight].
  2. No increased resolution- it would require "fundamental change" to the game and would have to account for faster player traveling issues (like being able to Teleport or Jump farther), spawning monsters on a larger scale around the player, and monster aggro would have to be taken in to account.
  3. No new end-game content. Bashiok noted that with this patch it would not be possible to add it, although there was no inkling of whether or not it would or would not be included with any future patch.

As far as why the expanded stash upgrade was also nixed, it was apparently due to outdated hardware and software, as hinted at before:


Official Blizzard Quote:



The service is designed specifically for the requirements of the game. Meaning that specific hardware has and continues to be used because the game was designed to run on it. The limitations now are that this hardware is pretty old, the storage capacity is more than enough to hold the data from an increased stash size, but at peak load can the service and database actually handle the ability to record all the data without fault? The feeling is probably not.

Now, that's only a reasonable doubt. If we were to throw caution to the wind and see if it works anyway the teams that would be responsible for cleaning up the mess are hard at work on completing the new Battle.net for StarCraft II. We're just not willing to bet the manpower that it will work and potentially impact one of our next major game releases.

The question then comes up that why don't we just upgrade the hardware? As I sort of hinted at this isn't off the shelf hardware and we can't simply throw in some new parts and hope it all works. It would be months of work, again, by teams of people that we simply aren't willing to remove from their current tasks.

Yet again, Blizzard raises the pretense that the patch could be expected in the next "few weeks" and is now on hold due to more "higher priority" issues concerning Warcraft III patching, when progress was said to pass over to Diablo II's patch (see WCIII Patch is Up- Diablo II Patch 1.13 Soon to Follow?) since the PTR went live for WCIII some time ago.

On the flip side, this may mean the patch will come along sooner without complicated additions to work in to massively-outdated server technology and software.

Whether this patch will continue to hold the nearly decade-faithful player base of Diablo II in sway is yet to be seen, but in light of recent events, it may be that this news will meet a frothing pot of dissatisfaction for those who have been waiting for months for not only this patch, but years for basic fixes for many issues with Diablo II.


(Astion first posted about it- see here for the original thread.)

Comments

  • #1 DesmondTiny
    Well. No new invintory. Well so far we goona keep on mulin away!

    No incresed resolution. Weather I care or not I dont care what my resolution is so tha does not consern me.

    No new end game content. Now what in the world is going on here. Well that ruins the patch for me I was hoping we could get to kill Diablos half sister or something. Man what a bummer. Oh well I will still continue to eagerly away for this wonderful patch :D
  • #2 edi-lupus
    i hate u bashiok.......... >:|

    KILL THE MESSENGER!!!11!one!
  • #3 Magistrate
    Quote from "edi-lupus" »
    i hate u bashiok.......... >:|

    KILL THE MESSENGER!!!11!one!


    I was going to delete this as flame, but please just tell me you're being sarcastic. Bashiok does not have any power over what he announces and has no influence on developers, patchers, or what have you. I think it's very unfair to pass any aggression at him when he is only doing everything he can do.
  • #4 edi-lupus
    Quote from "Seth" »
    I was going to delete this as flame, but please just tell me you're being sarcastic. Bashiok does not have any power over what he announces and has no influence on developers, patchers, or what have you. I think it's very unfair to pass any aggression at him when he is only doing everything he can do.


    I know thats why did my rather funny angry line face ---> >:|
    also, the added !!!!11!one! was kinda a dead give away
  • #5 Lt._Venom
    They might be making it so we can do shared stash.
  • #6 Sixen
    It's Blizzard, they've been making a deal about this patch for years. Before Bashiok collected ideas, NickJS was collecting ideas, back when Tech Support was in charge of moderating the forums. I guarantee they'll have something other than bug fixes to show for.
  • #7 Zhar
    Well I'd hope so, this long in the making I'm expecting more than just balancing.

    Anywho, I'd expect that Blizz is really working towards retooling most of the game, just remember how radical the changes were in 1.11 (synergies).
  • #8 Magistrate
    Didn't 1.11 take something like two years to get out? It was very radical, but it didn't quite do everything they were hoping it would, I don't think. It was nice, though, because it did offer some variation after the cookie-cutter builds of the prior era. It just kinda replaced them with different ones, though.

    NickJS was collecting ideas, back when Tech Support was in charge of moderating the forums.


    I never knew about that :o How long ago was it?
  • #9 blood-doll
    disappointing.
    with how delayed this has become i'm amazed that they still see it as such a low priority.
    i'm still looking forward to it though.. whenever it arrives.
  • #10 Nekrodrac
    Once again pessimism rules. Would like to point out that blizzard's impact on out world had been great and widespread. Why, even our common idioms and expressions in the english-speaking community has changed(maybe forever). Lets see:

    A Bird In The Hand Is Worth Two In The Bush: A patch in the hand is worth two in blizzard
    Add Fuel To The Fire: Add a D2 patch to the fire(meaning making something worse)
    All Greek to me : All D2 patch to me(meaning incomprehensible)
    Between A Rock And A Hard Place : Between a warcraft patch and another warcraft patch(meaning stuck between 2 bad options)
    Blue Moon : D2 LOD patch 1.13(meaning a(very or uber)rare event)
    Out Of The Blue : Out of the blizzard (meaning something that suddenly and unexpectedly occurs)
    ;)

    EDIT(PS)- there's also 'kick the bucket' now known as kick the Bashiok...but Seth might not be happy with this one:P
  • #11 Lt._Venom
    Quote from "blood-doll" »
    ...i'm still looking forward to it though.. whenever it arrives.


    Don't you mean "IF" it arrives? I just hope they do something worthwhile at least, like some major balancing for the synergies.
  • #12 Magistrate
    EDIT(PS)- there's also 'kick the bucket' now known as kick the Bashiok...but Seth might not be happy with this one


    Correct.

    I'm actually surprised how neutral or positive most of you are so far. Months ago when we posted the first delay it was like we were casting down brimstone or something :P
  • #13 Zhar
    I think we've gotten used to it by now....
    Disappointment is a weekly occurrence with Blizzard, it seems.

    And then the release comes, and all is forgiven...
  • #14 Crowmaster
    What really irritates me is that they went through the arduous task of sampling the D2 player population for their #1 patch ideas, indicating they were going to do something GREAT with 1.13.

    But with no increased stash, no modifications to update the game's play/performance, and no new content... what exactly are they doing with the patch? If their only intent is to fix bugs, why bother polling the D2 population?

    Sigh... once again my hopes got the best of me.

    Maybe at least they'll fix some of the botting >.>

    Actually... now that I think about it some more... maybe there isn't and never will be a true 1.13 patch. Maybe they just wanted a huge poll so they could generate more ideas for D3 and get more input from D2 players as to what D3 could do to improve further upon D2. And then, because they said they were going to make a D2 patch, they'll come out with a 1.13 that's simply "Fixed a glitch where sometimes players could get stuck on a fence in act 1."
  • #15 Magistrate
    You know you can PM me, right? And I would agree, I was just looking over that. Thank you.

    *goes to fix*
  • #16 Nekrodrac
    Hey man, I just noticed something in the title-
    ...1.13 Delay Going Strong

    'Delay' going strong??? That was quite some bit of sarcasm dude...lol
    Just admit it, u are just as frustrated as the rest of us;)
    let ur feelings out....:P
  • #17 Magistrate
    I'm not allowed to, it wouldn't be professional.

    Most fans are upset. I think we have good reason to be so, in all reality. We just need to make sure we don't become animals in the process.
  • #18 Nekrodrac
    Quote from "Seth" »
    I'm not allowed to, it wouldn't be professional ;)

    Most fans are upset. I think we have good reason to be so, in all reality. We just need to make sure we don't become animals in the process.


    Yet animals we are... Nice(maybe not) warm-blooded mammals...Civilised ones(hopefully)...:evil:
  • #19 Legilimens
    *Long drawn out sigh.......* I give up on this thing. Hasn't this been in the works for 1/2 a year now at least? If they aren't increasing the stash size, aren't adding end-game content, and aren't changing the resolution, what's the gosh darn hold-up??? What ARE they including?? New weapons/runewords, a ladder reset, and Middle-game content!??!?!?!? :P

    BTW I don't really give up. This was just depressing news.
  • #20 VladDracul
    In order for this patch to even be worth my time as far as I am concerned they have to eliminate ALL hacks including TPPK, MH, and TMC.
    They also have to do something extreme, like remove Enigma or make some major balances to skills. New items mean very little unless they can beat out the current top tier items and even then, it just means that those become new top tier and we are right back where we are now just with different gear.
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