Diablo 3 Art Comments by Mythos Project Director

Warcry interviewed FATE creator and former Flagship Studios Mythos Project Director Travis Baldree to discuss the whereabouts of the new gaming studio after the sundering of Flagship Studios. Travis Baldree partnered with Max Schaefer (Condor / Blizzard North and Flagship Studios co-founder) to create a new Studios: Runic Games.

This may not have much to do about Diablo 3, thus far, except Warcry tossed a catchy question at Travis Baldree, asking his opinion on the Art Direction of Diablo 3. This was his response.
Warcry: Just for fun, what do you think about the discussion swirling around the "tone and color" of Diablo 3?

Travis: Personally, I think what they've done with Diablo 3 is fantastic. It seems pretty obvious that the mandate was to make the game look like a concept painting brought to life, and I think they've succeeded pretty wildly. The contrast and use of color really works well for an Action-RPG, where there are hordes of monsters and spells, and separation of individual entities is required for satisfying play. I can't wait to play it!

Blizzard is really second-to-none, and I have nothing but admiration for their work. I know a lot of people are lamenting what they see as a move away from the grim vibe of Diablo, but I think a lot of that gothic feel is really sold by a combination of sound, content and story, and the visceral nature of the game - and Blizzard certainly isn't skimping on the visceral if the videos are any indication. I also feel strongly that there's some pretty grim content they haven't bothered to show everyone just yet.

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  • #1 USAFNBC
    I agree completely
  • #2 Veltras
    People need to play Diablo 1 and 2 again, they're quite cartoony it's just that with all the low quality graphics and the gore it leaves more places to imagination. Bringing it to 3d kind of breaks that and that's where some people get lost.

    Watch the gameplay trailer in HD again, I agreed with Elfen when he says that it looks more like God of War than World of Warcraft.

    Diablo is that kind of "cartoon" that you watch and then you suddenly have a heart attack because because suddenly everyone gets gruesomely killed by dark crazy demons or because you saw one of those badass angels. Those random pictures people used to make a darker D3 DONT MAKE TRUE JUSTICE TO DIABLO 3. Some areas in the dungeon felt quite dark like when you see the Siege Beast walking in the shadows after they rescued Cain... "There's something in here"... You would have never seen that in Wow.

    As for those complaining about the shoulder pads, it's Blizzard style to exaggerate things. I think it's cool for a huge Barbarian to have them this big but not for classes like the Witch Doctor. They take away the gracefuleness, just look at Tyrael on the Blizzcon banner you'll know what I mean. Some guys are just meant to look more like a wolf rather than a bear.
  • #3 Kwic
    "The contrast and use of color really works well for an Action-RPG, where there are hordes of monsters and spells, and separation of individual entities is required for satisfying play"

    Ah, he wrote that it looks fantastic before. Well, it might but i think for people who thinks it's fantastic and colours (less important for me) and textures are genius, well they are just fans of H&S and RPG generally. This game LOOKS great, but it looks great as some other title. The title is DIABLO and bullshit is saying that it looks fantastic. But ok, they are diablo fans who played diablo and didn't like the graphics. So they can like it now. But are they true diablo fans if they didn't like the graphics in previous games? Fans loved everything ;)
    I'm tired of explaining it all over again. Nobody is fighting with me when i write some longer post in some topic. It means everybody agree.

    cheers
    PS: this post isn't long ;)
  • #4 Melandor
    Another point in the Art direction thingy would be a good old saying:

    "Taste is NEVER up for discussion".

    I respect that many players are sad about the new art direction - but that does not give them flaming rights!
  • #5 Kwic
    Quote from "Melandor" »
    Another point in the Art direction thingy would be a good old saying:

    "Taste is NEVER up for discussion".

    I respect that many players are sad about the new art direction - but that does not give them flaming rights!


    Humm :) I agree that taste shouldn't be taken in discussion BUT sometimes there is no taste here ;) Why some people can't understand that it's contradiction in terms saying :

    I loved Diablo and Diablo 2. Everything was marvelous. And then : i love diablo 3, it's fantastic.
    Can you notice the point? ;) Diablo 3 looks totally different than previous series. Gameplay looks great, but that's not only one thing in the game we pay attention on right?.
    How can true fan (as declaring so) be satissfied with look of Diablo 3? It looks like every other game, is it nice for you? As i said, some people didn't like art direction in previous series. But i'm not talking about them. I don't mind when they are satissfied about D3 art. But for people who loved everything in previous Diablos, how can they claim that this one is wonderful as well, and they wouldn't change anything in it? heh ;)

    I know it's just a game and i can tell you that i don't play ANYTHING since 3 years ago. I'm not kido 12 years old. But when i remind myself beautiful old Diablo 2 times, and i see what they do with Diablo 3- sth is boiling in me. How can someone be satissfied with such graphics? I can't understand it. It looks as colorful as Titan Quest (which looks much better, even it's old). And Diablo series were characterized by dark places, tons of blood everywhere, atrocity everywhere you look. I don't see it now (i mean background). So it's obvious i'm not satissfied. They might change it of course, but the heck, i'm not gonna comment sth which isn't done yet right? Complaining of fans is sth natural. I don't see anything wrong with it.

    Cheerio ;)
    PS: I will say more : I find it wrong, when true fun is not complaining but takes what they get. It's ridiculous to do so.
  • #6 larrybud68
    I have been playing diablo for 9 years and im going to be 40 lol.I cant wait for diablo 3 to come out.Ilove the color.diablo brings the kid out in me.My 3 sons even play it.
  • #7 dad_
    Quote from "larrybud68" »
    I have been playing diablo for 9 years and im going to be 40 lol.I cant wait for diablo 3 to come out.Ilove the color.diablo brings the kid out in me.My 3 sons even play it.

    Well isn't this something...
  • #8 Kwic
    Quote from "larrybud68" »
    I have been playing diablo for 9 years and im going to be 40 lol.I cant wait for diablo 3 to come out.Ilove the color.diablo brings the kid out in me.My 3 sons even play it.


    Good for you :) Well, they are people who don't mind anything ;) I'm not such kind of guy.
    Do you like textures as well?

    But it's hard to complain too much coz i haven't played the game... I wish we all could do it soon.

    cheers
  • #9 TheBloody-Nine
    Okay, so some guy said the art looked great in an interview. I guess I'm fine with it too then wooho. '

    Or not?
  • #10 Yngvar
    Quote from "TheBloody-Nine" »
    Okay, so some guy said the art looked great in an interview. I guess I'm fine with it too then wooho. '

    Or not?


    Some guy who knows a bit about what he's talking about said the art looked great in an interview, and gave us a good reason for his opinion. I agree with him, wooho. ;)
  • #11 The_wind
    wow Travis Baldree is a preety good sport when it comes to blizzard and there games, which preety much i agree with his opinion.
  • #12 Dimebog
    Quote from "The_wind" »
    wow Travis Baldree is a preety good sport when it comes to blizzard and there games, which preety much i agree with his opinion.

    Yeah, he's not like a jealous bitch.

    P.S. He has credibility because he's D1/D2 developer? That's what I understood.
  • #13 lights_warrior
    Quote from "Kwic" »
    Humm :) I agree that taste shouldn't be taken in discussion BUT sometimes there is no taste here ;) Why some people can't understand that it's contradiction in terms saying :

    I loved Diablo and Diablo 2. Everything was marvelous. And then : i love diablo 3, it's fantastic.
    Can you notice the point? ;) Diablo 3 looks totally different than previous series. Gameplay looks great, but that's not only one thing in the game we pay attention on right?.
    How can true fan (as declaring so) be satissfied with look of Diablo 3? It looks like every other game, is it nice for you? As i said, some people didn't like art direction in previous series. But i'm not talking about them. I don't mind when they are satissfied about D3 art. But for people who loved everything in previous Diablos, how can they claim that this one is wonderful as well, and they wouldn't change anything in it? heh ;)

    I know it's just a game and i can tell you that i don't play ANYTHING since 3 years ago. I'm not kido 12 years old. But when i remind myself beautiful old Diablo 2 times, and i see what they do with Diablo 3- sth is boiling in me. How can someone be satissfied with such graphics? I can't understand it. It looks as colorful as Titan Quest (which looks much better, even it's old). And Diablo series were characterized by dark places, tons of blood everywhere, atrocity everywhere you look. I don't see it now (i mean background). So it's obvious i'm not satissfied. They might change it of course, but the heck, i'm not gonna comment sth which isn't done yet right? Complaining of fans is sth natural. I don't see anything wrong with it.

    Cheerio ;)
    PS: I will say more : I find it wrong, when true fun is not complaining but takes what they get. It's ridiculous to do so.


    well said!
  • #14 Dimebog
    Quote from "Kwic" »
    PS: I will say more : I find it wrong, when true fun is not complaining but takes what they get. It's ridiculous to do so.

    Well I'm a true fan and I like everything about what I saw of D3 so far, so what should I complain about? THAT sound's kinda ridiculous to me.
  • #15 Jordan_L
    wow his comments to Diablo 3's art direction just ripped nay sayers a 3rd hole.
  • #16 DevilBless
    Quote from "Kwic" »
    Humm :) I agree that taste shouldn't be taken in discussion BUT sometimes there is no taste here ;) Why some people can't understand that it's contradiction in terms saying :

    I loved Diablo and Diablo 2. Everything was marvelous. And then : i love diablo 3, it's fantastic.
    Can you notice the point? ;) Diablo 3 looks totally different than previous series. Gameplay looks great, but that's not only one thing in the game we pay attention on right?.
    How can true fan (as declaring so) be satissfied with look of Diablo 3? It looks like every other game, is it nice for you? As i said, some people didn't like art direction in previous series. But i'm not talking about them. I don't mind when they are satissfied about D3 art. But for people who loved everything in previous Diablos, how can they claim that this one is wonderful as well, and they wouldn't change anything in it? heh ;)

    I know it's just a game and i can tell you that i don't play ANYTHING since 3 years ago. I'm not kido 12 years old. But when i remind myself beautiful old Diablo 2 times, and i see what they do with Diablo 3- sth is boiling in me. How can someone be satissfied with such graphics? I can't understand it. It looks as colorful as Titan Quest (which looks much better, even it's old). And Diablo series were characterized by dark places, tons of blood everywhere, atrocity everywhere you look. I don't see it now (i mean background). So it's obvious i'm not satissfied. They might change it of course, but the heck, i'm not gonna comment sth which isn't done yet right? Complaining of fans is sth natural. I don't see anything wrong with it.

    Cheerio ;)
    PS: I will say more : I find it wrong, when true fun is not complaining but takes what they get. It's ridiculous to do so.



    i dont get you.. i really dont.. i mean.. i LOVED d2 and barely got to play D1.. but I simply loved them, but some of us can love both things, colorful things and dark things, and I love the way D3 looks atm.. i dont want it to change, that doesnt mean im not a "true" fan..

    its been said 1000 times before.. and its probably going to be said 10000 times again..
    this isnt going to change.. you dont like it? dont buy the game.
  • #17 Zvolen
    I couldn't agree more...
  • #18 Murderface
    Quote from "Kwic" »
    Humm :) I agree that taste shouldn't be taken in discussion BUT sometimes there is no taste here ;) Why some people can't understand that it's contradiction in terms saying :

    I loved Diablo and Diablo 2. Everything was marvelous. And then : i love diablo 3, it's fantastic.
    Can you notice the point? ;) Diablo 3 looks totally different than previous series. Gameplay looks great, but that's not only one thing in the game we pay attention on right?.
    How can true fan (as declaring so) be satissfied with look of Diablo 3? It looks like every other game, is it nice for you? As i said, some people didn't like art direction in previous series. But i'm not talking about them. I don't mind when they are satissfied about D3 art. But for people who loved everything in previous Diablos, how can they claim that this one is wonderful as well, and they wouldn't change anything in it? heh ;)

    I know it's just a game and i can tell you that i don't play ANYTHING since 3 years ago. I'm not kido 12 years old. But when i remind myself beautiful old Diablo 2 times, and i see what they do with Diablo 3- sth is boiling in me. How can someone be satissfied with such graphics? I can't understand it. It looks as colorful as Titan Quest (which looks much better, even it's old). And Diablo series were characterized by dark places, tons of blood everywhere, atrocity everywhere you look. I don't see it now (i mean background). So it's obvious i'm not satissfied. They might change it of course, but the heck, i'm not gonna comment sth which isn't done yet right? Complaining of fans is sth natural. I don't see anything wrong with it.

    Cheerio ;)
    PS: I will say more : I find it wrong, when true fun is not complaining but takes what they get. It's ridiculous to do so.
    A true fan would have some fucking faith, and shut the fuck up. A true fan would realize that they have only seen two areas in the fist act, and shut the fuck up. A true fan would appreciate the things that returned over slandering the things that changed, and shut the fuck up. You just jumped on the negative hype bandwagon and let someone shove words in your mouth and now you are afraid to jump off. A fan afraid of change is no fan at all, good day sir.
  • #19 TheBloody-Nine
    Quote from "Yngvar" »
    Some guy who knows a bit about what he's talking about said the art looked great in an interview, and gave us a good reason for his opinion. I agree with him, wooho. ;)



    Tbh, the mythos beta was one of the suckiest isometric actiongames I've tried :( Silly graphics, none tight "feel". It was intended to be a freeware game which was nice though. But seeing as he is involved in mythos, ofc he gotta agree with the new diablo art style. They look the same for christs sake!
  • #20 Kwic
    Quote from "Dimebog" »
    Well I'm a true fan and I like everything about what I saw of D3 so far, so what should I complain about? THAT sound's kinda ridiculous to me.


    Contradiction in terms, i said about it before ;) Or you are such a person who likes everything what he gets ;)

    Quote from "DevilBless" »
    i dont get you.. i really dont.. i mean.. i LOVED d2 and barely got to play D1.. but I simply loved them, but some of us can love both things, colorful things and dark things, and I love the way D3 looks atm.. i dont want it to change, that doesnt mean im not a "true" fan..


    I think you didn't read my previous threat carefully then ;) How can you love dark, scary, cruel places and love beautiful, colorful, bunny places at the same time? You love everything? I can't understand why people love everything what they get... If you see new character class, A bunny. Would you be happy as well? ;) HOW is it possible to love the smell of shit and vanilla at the same time? Sorry for comparison, i'm not saying that D3 looks like shit. I'm just saying that those games look totally different, so how can you loved art in previous series and love art in D3 too?

    Quote from "DevilBless" »

    its been said 1000 times before.. and its probably going to be said 10000 times again..
    this isnt going to change.. you dont like it? dont buy the game.


    Yeah, but it's explanation of 10 years old kid. You know that, don't you?
    It's like :

    -Mommy! Dad is putting his penis into some guy bottom! I'm disgusted!
    - You didn't have to go into the room...

    -My daughter was rapped yesterday!
    --She didn't have to go to the disco...

    -These cheese is rotten!
    --You don't have to buy it.

    -Oh my God, it's so stinky here! I paid for highest class room! What is this?
    -- I'm sorry madamme, but if you don't like, you can put these sticks into your nose.

    -I was cheated! When i landed in Spain, there was no hotel, i saw only 2 horny black guys with 30 cm dicks! And no job as they promised!
    -- You could have gone to different travel agency, sorry..

    You get the point? Or i have to explain everything from the beggining?...
    Don't get me wrong mate, i just don't like somebody telling me that they loved EVERYTHING in Diablo 1,2 and they love everything in diablo 3 too. Decide what you love... In Poland the word "love" is higher in hierarchy than "like". I don't know how about this in other countries... In America i noticed that this word is used definately too often and means nothing now. Just an exmaple.

    Cheerio
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