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Quote from "Aussensaiter" »

Seems like bad news..
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http://www.blizzplanet.com/?action=news&id=1625
They just skipped Diablo again in their plans it seems. :(:(:(

NO! You are wrong. Want a reason? You skipped an all to obvious detail. Blizzard is working on a goddamn MMO, another Warcraft RTS isn't an MMO and there already is a Warcraft MMO! Don't worry.

I know that blizzard has not forgotten about diablo. This was one of the games that really made them famous. I would have never in my life known what blizzard was if not for diablo and most of my gaming friends are the same way. Very few of us started with warcraft most came from diablo and expanded to play more blizzard games.

Europe was especially crazed about Diablo.

Quote from "AlphaX" »

Europe was especially crazed about Diablo.

Yes and in Korea that have stadiums for Star Craft. Just a random foreign countries to me remark.

Diablo made blizzard what it is today and sorry I havent been around latley been workin outa town

i dont get it

Quote from "DesmondTiny" »

I dont think blizzard needs to make it a montly fee. Their already rich as hell 8 million ppl paying 15$ to them everymonth. I highly doubt all that pays for their bills

It's more like U.S/Euro 5,000,000 paying $15

Than other 4,000,000 pay per time spent.

i kinda hope it isnt starcraft because it might be just like starwars.... and everyone knows that starwars failed miserably... granted it would be different IF they make it right but still

Quote from "Richwood666" »

What do you mean... starwars was a huge success!

I think he means Star Wars: Galaxies, which was a bit shit.

yeah srry bout that... i did mean starwars galaxies.... and i dont care what anyone says that game is bad... srry lucas but you really shouldnt make mmo's and i think that most people would agree with that

I didn't like any of the starwars games. I think that if blizzard does what blizzard does there will be no problems with diablo once it comes out other than all the time we have waited, which once again is what blizzard does.

Some Star Wars games have been superb. The Jedi Knight series, Knights of the Old Republic and all of the X Wing and Tie fighter games are classics in their own right.

Unfortunately, there have been many more shite Star Wars games than good ones though.

That may be why I don't like them at all. I don't even try new ones because the ones that I have played were crap.

I agree on the StarWars games. Great movies, boring games. This is my opinion though. I think most people like them because they get to play out StarWars fantasies, like John Michael from Arrested Development. That was hysterical.

Given the choice of having a Diablo MMO announced and having a Starcraft MMO announced, I think I'd rather a Starcraft MMO. Not because it has a better universe or that I think it would be a better game, I would just rather wait for a Diablo 3 with a decent single player component than have online play forced upon me (the money isn't that big a deal for me, but not having to pay monthly would also be nice).

How much of a bad ass do you feel like when you take down the Lord of fucking Terror singlehandedly? A pretty big one I would guess. Now, how much of a bad ass do you feel when you are in a group with 25 other players and you struggle to take down any of the raid bosses in World of Warcraft? Not much of one because you are expendable and replaceable. Even if you somehow managed to get the best gear possible in World of Warcraft, Illidan would kill you in seconds. In fact, any un-named mob in any raid instance would kill you in seconds.

I don't want Diablo to turn into this. I want to be able to fight the prime and lesser evils by myself, and not have to rely on 25-40 other players. Requiring this many people to take down a boss is not indicative of how hard the boss is, it's indicative of how much of an expendable grunt your character is.

Don't get me wrong, I still like multiplayer but I like it as an option and not as a requirement to get to the end game, which it would be if the next Diablo game was an MMO.

I actually think a Starcraft MMO would kick ass as well and would fill the time nicely whilst waiting for the big one to come out.

Quote from "vilkrang" »

How much of a bad ass do you feel like when you take down the Lord of fucking Terror singlehandedly?

Not much, it's clear that Diablo is a panzy.

Quote from "vilkrang" »

Now, how much of a bad ass do you feel when you are in a group with 25 other players and you struggle to take down any of the raid bosses in World of Warcraft? Not much of one because you are expendable and replaceable.

If you are replacable you really don't belong there... you can choose to be replacable or you may choose to be that healer that everybody depend on and if you fail the whole group fails.

I'm not a fan of WoW I'm just pointing out that this argument of yours is very subjective.

Quote from "Equinox" »

If you are replacable you really don't belong there... you can choose to be replacable or you may choose to be that healer that everybody depend on and if you fail the whole group fails.

Are you saying that out of 9 million people (or 10,000 on a server) there isn't one other person that rolled a healer?

If that isn't what you are saying then what you have said has no bearing on what I posted, I wasn't saying that in a 25 man raid that no one really needs do anything. Obviously the healers need to heal, the tanks need to tank and the DPS brigade need to DPS or the group will fail. I wasn't trying to suggest otherwise.

But to say that playing a healer makes you irreplaceable is a bit ignorant.

How exactly is any player not replacable when thousands of other players can fill the role just as well?

Yea and those who are bad healers are the bad people who eventually get kicked out of all guilds/clans/minor parties.

If you are good, they want you there, so you are not all that replacable. And people who can use their class properly (instead of messing it up) are not that easy to find.

If you play like rubbish of course you are replaceable. I'm replacable.

Diablo II, on the other hand, well, everyone can kill Diablo, it's not hard... so it really doesnt' raise my self-esteem much. I just like killing stuff, but that's it.

Quote from "vilkrang" »

How much of a bad ass do you feel like when you take down the Lord of fucking Terror singlehandedly? A pretty big one I would guess.

I don't feel like a badass anymore taking single-player bosses because it's made easy for the masses and it's not notable. No one but you sees you do it and at the end of the day everyone's done the same thing in their own little game so big deal. MMO's are much better for feeling badass. You can show off the gear to prove you downed something and then go rip someone's face off in battlegrounds with it. Single-play is dead. Besides just because it's an mmo doesn't mean they couldn't allow solo-able bosses and what a better way to feel like a badass being part of a community.

Quote from "Equinox" »

Yea and those who are bad healers are the bad people who eventually get kicked out of all guilds/clans/minor parties.

If you are good, they want you there, so you are not all that replacable. And people who can use their class properly (instead of messing it up) are not that easy to find.

If you play like rubbish of course you are replaceable. I'm replacable.

Diablo II, on the other hand, well, everyone can kill Diablo, it's not hard... so it really doesnt' raise my self-esteem much. I just like killing stuff, but that's it.

I'm not saying that each raid doesn't have a valuable member, as most guilds will have a few people (usually healers) who they rely on more than others. But at the end of the day there are still thousands of capable players out there.

I seem to be in a minority with regards to feeling like a bad ass when I kill the Lord of Terror. I guess I just get really into the game and when I kill (in lore terms) the craziest and toughest fucker in Sanctuary it feels better than being part of a 25 man team that kills someone that Arthas pwned by himself.

And greymann, to say that single play is dead is an absurd thing to claim. Ever played Half-Life 2? Bioshock? KOTOR? Crysis? Civ 4? Or any other superb and popular singe player game that has been released in the last couple of years? Because I have, and I generally find them more fun and rewarding. I don't really feel the need to show off to randomers over the internet (the irony of writing this on an internet forum this hasn't escaped me :D).

I guess we just have a different viewpoint, when you complete a single player game you think "well everyone has done that, no one can see me do it and no one cares that I've done it" whereas I think "I just killed X. I fucking rule". It doesn't matter to me at that point that other people have done it as well because at that moment I'm totally engrossed in the game and I have never once thought "Shit, I wish some randomer over the internet had seen me do this. It would feel much better if a randomer was impressed by my endeavours" or "Well, other people have done that as well so it isn't really notable. What a waste of time."