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Regarding PvP
Some small details have been posted regarding PvP.

Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

I can totally understand how frustrating it must be to find out that the very feature you were anticipating the most has been postponed, and that it might not even be released in the same format as was previewed earlier, but we hope that people understand that we truly want the best for Diablo III... we want to give you guys the best content possible, and the truth is that Team Deathmatch mode in its current form simply didn't deliver the kind of experience that we want it to.

The only way we can make Diablo III a better game is to release new features and content that is as great as possible. If we release content that is mediocre or rushed, then we might make some people happy for a little while, but after a couple of hours they will no longer feel it is fun to do and that will not be good for the game in the long run.

It is important to emphasise that PvP hasn't been scrapped, it is still being worked on.

Set up ptrs keep people's interest and keep them involved, you know more like it used to be. It's all so damned closed nowadays.
Are we to trust these testers?
First of all, you should never expect to see PTRs and other forms of player testing for all new features and announced content, but nobody has said that there will not be PTRs or other forms of public testing for something as massive as PvP content.

It is commonplace for most game developers (including Blizzard) when planning an external player test, to do internal testing first to see if the new content live up to the design goal. If it does not, then the content must be reworked. But as soon as the internal tests shows that things look to be working as they are supposed to, that is when we make the content available for external player testing to see if the content is truly working as intended.

The Team Deathmatch mode did not live up to the design goal during internal tests, and it must therefore be reworked. Does that mean PvP in Diablo III has been scrapped? No, but PvP may need to take a different form than a Team Deathmatch mode, and that was what the PvP blog was about.

i've spent a lot of time on feedback how Diablo 3 can be a better game, please - could you at least look and see whether it's worth to pass that feedback to developers?
Please trust me when I say that we are forwarding player feedback to the developers all the time, and especially constructive feedback from excellent threads such as the ones you have linked to :-)




Could Battlegrounds Work in Diablo 3?
Some players have suggested that battlegrounds might be a nice replacement for the removal of Team Deathmatch. You're free to share your opinion on that or even give new suggestions in the comments below!

Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)

It is hard to say what kind of PvP modes they are looking into, as there isn't any information available on that right now :-(

This is an interesting idea though, and although am not sure how PvP battlegrounds would work in Diablo III, you guys are of course free to speculate on that and share your ideas :-)




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#1 Frozenkex

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 03:03 AM

Well it was clear to a lot of people that if pvp came out in the form it was previewed as it would have major problems or super challenging to make it so it isn't either pay to win or "X class can just do this and faceroll" etc etc. Also absence of rankings or ladders would leave it without many incentives to keep doing it at all.

#2 loxago

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 03:19 AM

Read the blog and... To be honest I was very dissapointed. Blizzard seem like they have no idea how to integrate pvp and give people a reason to actually do it. They cannot make pvp good without changing things (pve), and they just are not willing to do that. So yeah i'll have some fun dueling but holy shit is this what we had to wait like 7 months for? duels..?

#3 kamuibm

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 04:16 AM

At least they provided some information in the PvP blog. They didn't have to tell us anything you know. :Thumbs Up:

#4 Phaerius

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 04:41 AM

I want moba style gameplay, push those towers, destroy that nexus. Angels vs demons hoooo!

#5 duckwilliamson

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 05:36 AM

View PostKraglos, on 28 December 2012 - 11:22 PM, said:

It's nice to see that we got more feedback on that matter. Although I don't share their point of view of "Make everyone happy with a single system". Why not release different systems that appeal to different people rather than scrapping what they've got after 7 months?

I totally agree, I didn't like TDM in BF3, but I still played it a bit here and there. It wasn't 1 hour and done forever, but more 1 hour, come back in a week and do another hour. If they want someone everyone will love and play forever, that's a really hard goal to hit. They could make a DoTA style game, or endless dungeon, or open world hostility ... but not everyone is going to like it.

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 06:57 AM

For PvP to work in this game, it would have to be a completely different beast, i.e skills work differently, different damages, etc...  Zones like battle zones would be perfect for this.  If it ends up adjusting PvE for PvP balance, it will simply upset a lot of fans, especially HC players who would see nerfs/adjustments for the sake of PvP, which really would be sad to see.

I hope Blizz, if they do implement this, does it right.  It cannot turn into WoW and seeing larger PvE changes due to PvP.

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 07:05 AM

Battlegrounds would be interesting but I hope it would be more than a 3v3 or something like that and closer to a 10v10.

#8 ggnore

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 07:40 AM

I hope they come up with some really awesome mode for pvp

#9 Kblavkalash

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 08:34 AM

I know for sure that if they could not finish already existing PvP arena in 7 months, they for sure won't release new PvP system in upcoming 6 months or probably even until 2014. So you guys can forget about PvP for a while :)
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#10 Zderzak

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 08:53 AM

I don't understand why they couldn't release TDM + some new modes? or extended releasing period with firstly adding TDM. They are overusing "Blizzard Quality" here. I hope we have something by February.

#11 Silureth

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 08:55 AM

I'm really courious, how long do we have to wait till we can pvp. And it's not so hard to see bg like pvp in d3.

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 09:54 AM

D3 pvp will be faceroll.... No gear balance, no class balance, no plvl balance... You will see;p

#13 kebapmanager

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 10:18 AM

I dont udnerstand how people think about battlegrounds in diablo 3 , can anyone explain  ?

#14 TidalSnake

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 10:25 AM

View PostKraglos, on 28 December 2012 - 11:22 PM, said:

It's nice to see that we got more feedback on that matter. Although I don't share their point of view of "Make everyone happy with a single system". Why not release different systems that appeal to different people rather than scrapping what they've got after 7 months?

I couldn't agree more. This way the pvp mode can better accepted and, as a bonus, there would be something new and different to do in pvp.

#15 merlindono

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 10:26 AM

The battleground system cannot be done yet in d3. The reason is simple. There is NO WAY to balance sm1 who pays money for his gear, with sm1 who plays without the RMAH help. Always, the one who pays will have better gear and will win as d3 is a purely gear-depent game..

#16 majkosz

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 10:34 AM

BG in diablo 3 NO THX

#17 Whispersz

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 10:36 AM

i think the battleground idea in diablo 3 is quite interesting. i would love to see a bg like eye of the storm from wow or arathi basin

#18 web

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 10:41 AM

a 40 vs 40 arena would be fu**ing AWSOME!

#19 naranha

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 10:50 AM

I wish they'd come up with a PvP scenario besides simple dueling before the game is 1 year old. They promised it!

#20 provocator

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 11:01 AM

BGs in D3? I don't think so ;p Still, waiting for them to surprise me!