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    posted a message on Do you smell an expansion?
    Quote from Polrayne

    I'm surprised that there aren't more threads out there about this.

    I found it very unusual that a Blue wold recently comment on anything to do with an expansion (as they did which appreared in the main news feed on Dfans) unless they want that thought to be out there with the community. Also with Pardo tweeting recently that both expansions would have a PTR.

    Things are changing with community relations and this game - but, I'm sure they've learned their lessons from past experiences. It would be dangerous to start talking about these things if what they have at this point is something that is too far off from being a viable release in the next year.

    I know its always being talked about; "what do you want in xpac" or "will xpac save D3" - but it seems like most of the community is centered on patches, the hate train of D3 and the core issues of customization and itemization. Comparatively, not a lot of talk about expansions.

    As many have said - it would be far easier to fix some of the core issues with the game, recapture some of the excitement of the game with an Expansion. However - with the removal of Jay, I personally feel like an expansion is way, way off. Why rush to get something out when so much distrust and concern is already on the table?

    Unless of course - they give most of the players what they want in the expansion. Which is unlikely - imo. But then...LoD came out, what a year later?

    So those that are wiser in the wily ways of games and development - is it fair for folks to latch on to one Blue post talking about an expansion - or just dismiss it and focus on worrying about patches and developer blogs?


    ....My guess....

    Diablo 3 failed in many ways and Blizzard is greatly aware of this now. They tried to dismiss it for the first few months but the gaming community just kept finding too many core mechanics issues + regulars errors. Blizzard stated in a post that a lot of small fixies will be offered via patch to help the progression of D3, especially in end-game content. But major fixes to core mechanics would only be made with an expansion. Makes sense, it would be easier to implement with offline content offered from a cd and probably a new patch client then adding that through online patches. So don't expect any big changes to spell diversity, runes, crafting, itemization, chat/AH interface, etc to come with a future patch. they will come with the xpac. My guess.....sadly......is that D3 xpac will probably be a lot of fun....the fun they should of released for the first D3 game. Bad managing? Marketing schemes? Who knows.
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    posted a message on jay wilson quit diablo 3
    Quote from shaggy

    Quote from yoshiboi

    Why does a game have to be EZ mode for a 5year old boy for it to be fun? This is the year 2013....what happened to humans evolving?!?! It's kinda sad that this is the direction we are headed.

    If that's what you got from my post then you didn't read my post at all.

    Try again.



    Obviously the allocation of stats has to come from somewhere.....the difference is that in D2 the 4-5 affixs on an item could vary depending how you allocated your +skill stats. In D3, we basically figure out what are the best 4-5 affixs for each main class then stack them. yes it can vary a bit as well using the rune system in place, but like you mentioned its not efficient so it fails. Don't get me wrong, if we remove the factor of efficient farming, then D3 opens up a lot of cool builds. We can almost say it's easier to manage then it was in D2 and also better. These builds just don't do enough dmg though. Poor itemization plays a role here. They have been trying to fix the current runes in place for each class. A step in the right direction.

    I agree that smooth and simple mechanics is overall a better approach. I just find that some things in D3 are lacking in depth. Not to a point where it becomes complicated and boring. Blizzard is aware that their game is lacking, in many areas. Like you mentioned, the social aspect is terrible. Poor chat UI, limited multyplayer control and more, poor rune system, itemization, randomized maps, mob density, the entire Monk class (Blizzard stated that they will be reviewing the class as a whole).

    I hope they do improve D3. I might come back :kiss:
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    posted a message on jay wilson quit diablo 3
    Quote from shaggy

    Quote from brx

    Quote from Melt

    The base of the product has to be simple to appeal to the broadest audience possible. The first addon will appeal to the persons that still stay with this game and want more. And the 2nd Addon is goign to be designed entirely around creating a game that lasts for the next 10 years to those that are still dedicated to this game.

    If you start a game that only appeals to 100.000 people to begin with you probably are going to lose another 50.000 when the first addon hits and another 40.000 when the second addon hits. That's why you can't start with a passive skill tree that fills up 10 screens. If you start to build up that concept in an addon you are NEVER going to be able to appeal to new players.


    The base D3 doesn't have to be designes as long lasting as the first addon and the second addon is going to go entirely by the "fuck newcomers, entertain veterans" premise.
    see you are the one persuaded it has to be like this, that newcomers do not like depth in their game and that veterans are mean people that blizzard should prevent from hurting everyone etc etc. I am not buying it. Look at the state of game seriously.

    @ruksak: idk stack main stat, vita, +damage +crit +ias +all resist. on every slot. for every class. meh that is bland. Everything on weapon damage, no point in elemental damage, all stun blind freeze etc proc are the same. It is straight out of wow.
    D2 had +skills at least.

    What I disagree with is that your ideal D2 item had basically all the same stats on it too:

    +skills
    +all stats
    +life leech
    +mana leech (albeit less mandatory than life leech)
    +resistances
    +magic find

    Yes, you could cap resistances, and yes a lot of people wanted faster block, hit recovery, and attack, but ultimately the "good item" archetype in D2 was 4 or 5 affixes that were near-mandatory. The only thing that truly has changed in D3 is which stats we are stacking. In D3 primary stats are most closely akin to +skills, as they both were across-the-board damage increases. We can't really "stack" life leech anymore, but that's counterbalanced by the fact that we can stack resistances as high as we want.

    I don't know. Perhaps I'm completely off my rocker, but I just don't see any huge differences D3 and D2 in the "I'm just stacking X number of stats" category. To me it's the exact same shit just with a different name therefore I really have trouble getting on board with the overused "dumbed down" argument.

    D2 wasn't exactly a paragon of complexity. Games don't need to be ultra complex to be fun. In fact most of the successful games are, in all acutality, newbie-friendly. Why? Because it's not fun to play Solitaire all the time, sometimes it's fun to play a game with other people. If you want others to play then you have to acknowledge that they all have varying skill levels, attention spans, etc.

    I met a ton of people in D2. People I still communicate with to this very day. The reason I did that was because it was accessible. If anything D3 has accessibility issues because it's EASIER to ignore public games (for a myriad of reasons) and not "trust" that you can have fun with others in a game. Everything is about uberefficiency and the risk of doing the social thing is vastly outweighed by the efficiency tradeoffs.


    ummmm have you even played D2? Why do I see so many posts of people trying to compare D2 and D3 yet they have no idea how both work. Ya sure D2 was far from perfect but there was build diversity. People didnt just stack one Godly stat, they combined other ones as well. I used to have 3 of each class, all different powerhouse specs. Ya obviously we are using affixes on items like D3 does...but there was synergy between gear and skill points. Now in D3 technically all your gear is useless unless your main weapon is godly. There is 0 build diversity....unless you want your hero to be extremely weak and fall behind everyone else farming.

    Why does a game have to be EZ mode for a 5year old boy for it to be fun? This is the year 2013....what happened to humans evolving?!?! It's kinda sad that this is the direction we are headed.
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    posted a message on jay wilson quit diablo 3
    Quote from Zeyk23

    Quote from Polrayne
    I do not think that the issues with itemization, the RMAH, poor legendary items at release are totally his fault. These things were designed with a clear path of intent - profit. And profit means Corporate. That came from the Powers That Be and it was his job to implement them in the most engaging and fun way possible. He failed. Because no one on Earth can implement that system and make people happy.

    Why does everybody think this? If they intended to design the entire game around getting a cut from the RMAH, why would they then reverse half those design decisions after launch? In reality it's Occam's Razor, everything is much simpler if you assume that there's no corporate conspiracy at play. There are legitimate thought processes behind every decision they made, all of which they've shared with us openly at one point or another, and many of which were supported by the community pre-release. I fully believe that they tried their hardest to make the best game they could. Some of their mistakes were actually a result of listening too much to the vocal minority among the community IMO, particularly the extreme difficulty of Inferno at launch.

    Ummmmm....not really. What core issues have they fixed? They have only added small content to keep players busy instead of actually fixing the main problems. Itemization? Main dmg source comes from our weapons.....? The RMAH...still exists. They realized this major fail and are starting to create Bound on accound items with every new patch....fail. Legendaries got a boost just to become BiS gear....making most rares even more useless unless they have a perfect roll. This was a bandaid to the loot system that needs major rehauling. And let us not forget the rune system, the so called "Diversity" in spells. There are so many other mechanics that could replace these brokens ones....but they would probably make Diablo 3 a bit more challenging and fun. Obviously that isn't an option.

    Blizzard said a bunch of mumbo jumbo pre-release and showed us a lot of it. The community wasn't 100% on board with their ideas, but Blizzard promised us their ideas would work. At game release a lot of ideas got scrapped and the end product was a half finished game. I remember following D3 very closely pre-release.

    This is a franchise game. They had so much to build on. Yet they failed so hard.....are these people stupid? Obviously not, they want money. Look at how many copies of this game sold, with the very small extras RMAH generates as well. They want to release an xpac, obviously a lot of that pre-release missing content will be added into it.

    Diablo 3 is a failure. But this game still has so much potential. Now wil Jay wilson gone (thank god) they will finally nerf barbs and maybe save this game, for like year 2014. I will return then!
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    posted a message on New patch, major let down.
    Quote from axeman87

    All the patches in the world wont actually change the fundamentals of D3, which IMO are not even vaqually comparable to D2 and LBH, D2 is the reason we all bought D3 in the first place.

    After all, (hyperthetcially), unless Blizzaard say somthing like "..We totally fucked things up and are going back to what worked in D2"... how sales will D4 see? Not near as much as D3 did from the success of D2 I would guess.

    Dont get me wrong, I've hade plenty of fun with it and figure I've got my $70 worth, but I'm slowly but surely getting very bored with it and sure as hell wont be playing it for years like I did with D2.

    I wont go into the reasons why as they've all been said before, but in a nutshell D3 is a 6-12 month quick hack and slash game. Nothing more or less. Expecting it to become something it isnt (Diablo 2.5?) will only lead to disapointment.

    Another great post! Lovers and haters of Diablo 3 will truly find out what direction this game has gone when they release the xpac. Sales predictions.......much much much...........much lower then Diablo 3 original. Blizzard fail.
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    posted a message on New patch, major let down.
    Quote from Litheum

    Not sure about anybody else, but I feel completely let down by the new patch.

    Dueling:
    They added dueling, cool. Only issue I have with this is you can't just turn it on in a public game. They could have easily just made a hostile flag for your character, so when your waiting for your friends, or at the end of the run you just turn it on and fight each other. If you don't turn your flag on, you dont die, so not sure why we need a whole new zone to keep characters safe. New zone does look pretty fun though......

    Craft Recipes:
    Again they added a very short-sighted answer to adding new content. Farming recipes is a reason to farm bosses, great! But once you get that recipe, that content dies. And you will never return, just like the A4 recipe, it was easy to get, you got it, and never returned to A4. This will give a month or 2 of farming bosses, then everyone will be back in A3.

    Crafting mats: More incentive to farm A3 at max efficiency.

    New Gems: More incentive to farm A3, 20 million gold plus the gold you spent on your 3 RS gems.

    New gear effects: The high price and time investment means this only increases the need for only 1 high-powered character to run A3 with to further improve that character. It gives no incentive at all to have more then 1 character. Especially since they gave no reason to make gear with vitality (it's still all about super-farming with high-dps mains). So this amounts to running A3 endlessly and along the way having a chance for a new item. If its anything like Hellfires, they will just end up sitting in your bank unused. Especially for high-end characters with good items in those slots already.

    Things that the developers made no attempt to change:
    99% of rare drops are vendor trash (actually made this worse w/ the crafted recipes in the few slots rares still had potential)
    Way too many rares overall, meaning only legendaries and recipes are worth picking up for high-tier players
    AH is still the best way to gear alts and even your main until you get lucky with a recipe.
    No incentive whatsoever for more than 1 charcter.
    No reason to farm anything but A3. (Other than to get your recipes, once you get it, no reason to do it again)
    Still favors MP0-2 farming meaning less diversity in gear choices, we will continue to just increase DPS stats.
    No end-game content, End-game = A3.
    No items are leaving the economy.

    At the end of the day, the only change they made (outside of duels) is along your perpetual A3 runs, you will get some mats you can use to forge a new item. Most of these will end up in your bank rotting.

    So far, I see no reason for me to come back at this time.

    Well said! This game has so much potential...and we see Blizzard doing some changes....but very slowly. Would be nice if they focused on some main issues at hand like "loot" for the next patches to come.
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    posted a message on Diablo 3 pvp....
    Quote from BornBadd

    You're just beating a dead horse. There are so many threads already about this ... you don't need to make a new 1. Move on ...

    Faaaaail. Atleast he took the time to make a cartoon out of it! Which some people don't seem to understand........Well I enjoyed it!
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    posted a message on Did everyone give up to soon?!?
    Quote from Jaetch

    Hm, the #1 monk in the U.S. just retired as well. And I'm about 40% fully cashed out, too.

    I wouldn't mind starting fresh sometime in the future when this game is... how would I put it...

    Replayable (or complete).


    I feel ya there.
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    posted a message on gg no team death match
    Quote from Jamoose

    Even though OP is a troll with such a lame thread title and post but i still want to add my opinion. All you little whiners, if Blizzard wouldn't reveal planned features at all and just announce the included features would you be happy? pvp in D2 was quite big. It's actually one of the things that held many players in the community and made many people come back to play d2 every time there was a ladder reset. I used to play on NL so i dont really care, its just that pvp on NL was really hard since many people were totally maxed out and not to mention the crazy NL items from 0.8 and such. I am confident that we will get some sort of a team based pvp sometime. Maybe not exactly tdm but something along those lines. I hope they will add the dueling system soon though, cuz really it dosnt sound that hard to implement at all.

    All the kids who are like "gg blizz no pvp" are just a bunch of trolls. If they had something good they would have released it since it will surely make them some profit. But apparently its not good so its scratched. Claiming that Blizzard scammed us is just silly. I remember that asshole who had a huge post about how he managed to get his 60 euros back because he kept whining and threatened to sue Blizzard after he spent like 100 hours on the game. All i can say is - Freaking spoiled brats.

    How is the title trolling? I know im a troll in many ways... :Thumbs Up:...but.... I followed D3 developement for years, both PvE and PvP. I was excited for both.....since Yes Blizzard did advertise and PROMISED both. This isn't a " I hate Blizzard or I love Blizzard" post.....it's a "What happened to Blizzard's advertising?" My purchase of D3 was falsy misguided by the Team Deathmatch content. It's fine that many people don't want PvP or those that do but don't mind not having it in D3.

    I played Diablo 2 for many years after it's release. PvP and Pve both kept me going, not just one of them. My decision to play Diablo 3 was because I expected there to be a new PvE and PvP environment. PvP didn't have to be super important, but it should of been offered. Blizzard states that it would be too boring to play....well I find EZ mode inferno MPlvl10 boring to play.....not because it doesnt have potential....but it lacks too much content for a Title belonging to a series.

    So ya Blizzard fails in a way.....it seems that it's no longer an opinion from a large player base but a fact. That doesn't mean they can't fix their errors. We all make mistakes and fail in a way. We are only human. Im on the sidelines waiting and hoping for better content to be patched in before expansion. The way things are currently going, it seems all that "missing' extras will come x-pac time :QQ: Just because I don't play D3 anymore doesnt mean I dont want to....Im still hopefull!
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    posted a message on GG
    Quote from overneathe

    Quote from yoshiboi

    Where do you get your info from dude? Sigh......Blizzard merged with activision....so yes we can compare them as companies. They are both greedy.

    Secondly, WoW has progressive content because it is a subcription based game...unlike CoD & Diablo 3. Do you know why CoD is so small of a game on every release? The graphics and dynamic mechanics put into the game are huge. I agree it's kindy crappy but it's the way it is. Atleast when you buy CoD you know what the game has to offer. I bought Diablo 3 in the hopes for PvP, mainly Team Death match. Ya it sucked that on release Blizzard said PvP wasn't ready. Being a big fan of the Diablo franchise and Blizzard as a whole, I decided to wait. Now Blizzard stated that Team detah match will probably never exist. Fail? False advertising?

    Diablo 3 was fun for the first few months, even when you put aside all the nerfs. But the game lacks content, ie: more activites like daily quests or group encounters. This is suppose to be a sequel to the Diablo series.......then why does Diablo 2 have more content? Blind fans calling people haters or whinners but the sad truth is that the list of problems with Diablo 3 keeps getting bigger. I used to be a blind fan but not anymore.

    The sad truth is that Diablo 3 falls short, a broken game indeed. GG Blizzard.

    Activision and Blizzard didn't decide to merge. Blizzard's parent company Vivendi bought Activision and then merged it with Blizzard. Vivendi is calling the shots on both of them, while it has been calling the shots for Blizzard for the last 15 years. Where do you get your info from?!

    CoD runs the same engine for years with small tweaks added each year for each game. The only truly new things are some textures/models and a few pieces of code. It's a recycle process each year that costs Activision almost nothing and brings in huge profits.

    I'm not as disappointed as you are that PvP has not made it yet, though I wont hide that I am indeed at least a bit disappointed, mainly because exactly people like you that wanted it badly didn't get it. It's sad, but it's what it is right now. And I can tell you right now that Team Deathmatch is likely 99% sure to not come. Blizz said themselves they'll be looking at other options. TD just happened to not feel fun for them on the long run. Do I trust them? I don't sadly care enough about the topic to trust them. I've avoided PvP in every game and have no idea how fun team deathmatch could've been. But it's a scrapped project. We'll not be seeing it (likely). If PvP is the only thing that you wanted in Diablo then either start looking around for other games or at least shelve D3 for now and follow the news to see when and how exactly PvP will reemerge.

    I don't think the list of problems of Diablo 3 is getting bigger. I think it's getting a lot smaller. What has gotten worse since the game came out? The problems that are still present have indeed been here since launch, but which of them have actually gotten worse?

    Also, look at the other point of view. Most people (including me and you) think the game has gotten nerfed. A topic just next to this one, created by a long time Diablo 2 fan, says that the game needs to be nerfed more... ?! Oh, yes, it's opinions.

    Daily quests? One of the worst things I've heard for a hack and slash, likely in my entire life. Also, all hack and slash RPGs offer team play, but they _never_ add things that you can't do solo. That's maybe one of the most core features in these types of games. I really don't understand what exactly you're looking for in this game.


    Ya most of my post was a rant......so most of it was a fail. Lets try again. Diablo 3 has major core issues that need to be fixed....and have not yet been addressed by Blizzrad. Itemization? Build diversity? Randomizing Maps? Loot tables? Sure they go around balacing (nerfing) skills and stuff....but I find with these major issues at hand that these small fixes don't do as much good as they should. Sure it's my opinion that Diablo 3 is too easy.......Yet my 9 year old cousin and a very sweet girl, beat the game and told me it was easy......well GG.

    I have a feeling Blizzard will one day fix all these issues. They are pretty pro at the patchign game. I still don't approve Diablo 3 release date. What have they been doing all these years? If you check all the pre-release info....this game has 1/5 the features they offered. Yes I understand not everything in development stays the same or even makes it.....but how is it possible all this content disappeared?? Will it be added to an xpac for more cash?

    Concerning CoD. yes I know they make mad cash. I wasnt really defending them, just poorly explaining that it's not that simple as stated. They have obviously perfected their business recipe for success. I hope Blizzard isn't going to try and follow them.

    Im an old school Blizzard fan since my teens. When I bought Diablo 3 I gave it a chance. If people still enjoy it, then good for them. They have all the right to do so. After a few months and a few hundred hours im done. ya sure I got my money's worth...so I guess my opinion isn't worth while......im just sad.

    Sad that Blizzard did let down a lot of dedicated gamers down.
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    posted a message on Blizzard is a joke...
    Quote from overneathe

    Quote from whippingstar

    This would be great, except that Diablo I or II didn't ship with such fundamental itemization flaws and a resulting lack of gameplay depth. D3 is over-simplified to the extreme. Waiting three years for PvP is fine, but waiting for changes that make a game about item farming about item farming and not farming for gold is too long.

    I'm glad to see them step back from PvP in the hopes that they start working on the underlying issues that are currently plaguing the game.

    It is completely normal for a game company to casualize their game in order to bring in better profits. In fact, right now, mostly the casuals are keeping this game alive and going, while the "hardcore old school players" go around forums complaining it didn't live up to expectations after spending 500+ hours on it. It if wasn't for the huge sales that even Blizzard couldn't predict themselves the dev team would likely be even smaller with people being assigned to other projects leaving the future of Diablo to a handful of devs. Yes, RMAH brings profits but I suspect they're about as much as keeping the servers up. Yes, the servers that are running for free without needing subscriptions to play the game while keeping the "paying" RMAH usage completely optional for the players.

    And Diablo 2 didn't have problems? The first several patches were only bugfixes and they were going out for months. Huge exploits and game breakers and the like. I understand you don't remember those. It's been 11 years. In fact here it is: all patches up to patch 1.07 were in their majority bug fixes, equally split between minor and major bugs. 1.07 was the first proper balance patch. And yes, that was the version that the expansion came with. Which means there wasn't a single worth mentioning balance patch up until the expansion. And don't tell me that it was because "balance was simply fine" at the start. We both know that's bullshit. Not to mention how far less theorycrafting there was in gaming in general 11 years ago.

    Only 1.04 brought some quality of life things but they can't even start to compare to super major features that we've seen for D3 so far, like Monster Power (which isn't a simple /player X command), Uber bosses, Paragon leveling, huge overhaul of legendary items and so on. So far all patch notes apart from 1.0.6 have been enormous.

    I understand itemization is an issue for a lot of people but I suspect Blizzard is aware of this because of the, oh, just a few million topics posted about it every week. But do you expect such a major change to be fixed in a few months WHILE developing all the other features? How many people do you think work on this game? Because in my opinion it's no more than 20-25. And would've you been happier to see no major additions to the game while the devs toil away at fixing the itemization for a few months, knowing now that the player base is not happy with them?

    Sure, people now will jump up and say "well this shit could've just been released this way instead of having to fix it post-launch". Of course they have, but they didn't. They've admitted the launch could've been handled better and we'll see if they've learned their lesson with the expansion release, but now no one has connection issues apart from their own ISPs' fault. They've admitted legendary items sucked majorly at launch and they fixed those. There were exploits and dupes and they've been working hard on them if you follow the news. Botters are being banned in major waves where the entire forums of said bot communities right now are saying they've been banned and complaining that they were "guaranteed" to never be by the bot creator. The end game was not enough at start and now we have a good amount of things to do end game with MP, ubers and paragon. Can there be more? Absolutely definitely. But these were additions that could be developed in a short amount of time and they were. Larger scale things require more development and I'm sure we'll see plenty of those in the coming months.

    Now. If you want to complain that D2 was better in my eyes your arguments are beyond false. If you _truly_ believe that then I suggest you go play D2 because Diablo 3 will _never_ be its predecessor and you will _never_ be happy with it. That's how video games work. If you want to complain that Torchlight 2 and/or Path of Exile are better games then what the hell are you doing here? Why cause he commotion? Why be unhappy? Go play those games, no one is stopping you. Go be happy somewhere else if you're not over here. For the money people have invested in this game they've gotten hundreds of hours of gameplay, when the average for video games nowadays is 40, sometimes down to 20, for the same price. If the journey so far has really been that poor for you then do yourself a favor and just go be happy somewhere else.

    p.s. the majority of this wasn't targeted at you Nymrael. Mainly just things plaguing me for a while. I suspect I'll have to make a few more of these posts in the near future of course but this seems like a good start.


    I love how some people are idiots but try to sound smart...........The Diablo games are a series. Diablo 3 follows up on Diablo 2. Blizzard had YEARS to develop Diablo 3. How the hell is it possible Diablo 2 is still a better game? Yes Diablo 2 took years of patching to improve......but Blizzard has had years before releasing D3. Diablo 3 is a huge slap to the Diablo series face!

    It's not a question about what aspects of the game I do and do not like.......Diablo 3 has no end-game content. Diablo 3 is ridiculously easy. Diablo 3 falsly advertisded about PvP.

    Sure it's a game so lets move on.....just a shame Blizzard gave up. The only proof that this game is dying will be on expansion release. We will be able to compare with sales.....my guess is they will sell a fraction of what Diablo 3 has sold. GG
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    posted a message on GG
    Quote from overneathe

    They scraped PvP because, as they said in the blog, for a few short hours at a Blizzcon it would be great fun, but you'd get bored with it in a very, very short while. I understand their reasoning but also agree that more could've been done and they've scrapped it way earlier, seeing as it's been the same PvP idea for at least 2-3 years.

    But comparing to Activision? Sorry, no. WoW expansions will continue coming out because 10 million people are still _subscribed_ to that game. Not giving them new content to players is like not giving chocolate to people that love chocolate. Why would you deny them? Also it's not at all like CoD, because WoW builds up with every new release, while CoD is a new game every time. And each time with even less content.

    Also Titan was never "supposedly" for 2013. Fans can speculate all they want, but Blizzard have never said anything official even remotely comparable to a date. "Pushing the release date" is nothing but stupidity from the community at this point. It's like if a friend of yours said "I'm thinking of buying a new TV, looking at brochures currently" and you interpret that as "I'm buying a TV next week". Then next week you go to your friend's house and say "TV was delayed? Makes sense. You're always doing this to me. Setting expectation and then disappointing me", while your friend just looks at you with amazement.

    My opinion? 2015 at minimum. It's an opinion though, just like any other.

    Where do you get your info from dude? Sigh......Blizzard merged with activision....so yes we can compare them as companies. They are both greedy.

    Secondly, WoW has progressive content because it is a subcription based game...unlike CoD & Diablo 3. Do you know why CoD is so small of a game on every release? The graphics and dynamic mechanics put into the game are huge. I agree it's kindy crappy but it's the way it is. Atleast when you buy CoD you know what the game has to offer. I bought Diablo 3 in the hopes for PvP, mainly Team Death match. Ya it sucked that on release Blizzard said PvP wasn't ready. Being a big fan of the Diablo franchise and Blizzard as a whole, I decided to wait. Now Blizzard stated that Team detah match will probably never exist. Fail? False advertising?

    Diablo 3 was fun for the first few months, even when you put aside all the nerfs. But the game lacks content, ie: more activites like daily quests or group encounters. This is suppose to be a sequel to the Diablo series.......then why does Diablo 2 have more content? Blind fans calling people haters or whinners but the sad truth is that the list of problems with Diablo 3 keeps getting bigger. I used to be a blind fan but not anymore.

    The sad truth is that Diablo 3 falls short, a broken game indeed. GG Blizzard.
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    posted a message on blizzard = fail
    title says it all........GG blizzard for being liars. Thanks for the non-existing Team death match youve promised for years. Time for me to email you guys for a full refund. I would have never bought Diablo 3 if I would of known this bs before hand. I would of just kept playing Diablo 2....which is MUCH better then D3. Oh well, ya win some ya lose some, GG.


    I suggest anyone who isn't happy with Blizzard falsy selling you a product to contact them asap for a refund. Now is the time to act! Don't take their shitty excuses, take action!
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    posted a message on PvP was planned for 1.1, we got something related to PvP earlier and you complain?
    Quote from Nuvian

    Quote from Zyfoh

    PvP was planned for 1.1

    Link?

    Don't make a thread if you don't have anything constructive to write in the post it self.

    LOL? Blizzard stated in multiple threads that PvP was planned for 1.1 patch release.....do your own homework..pfft lazy bum.

    You ask for a constructive reply? Blizzard has failed over and over again and with this last mishap of removing Team deathmatch they have proved they are liars and useless. So what exactly do you want as constructive.........here maybe this will help....Jay Wilson should be fired, GG.
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    posted a message on Blizzard is a joke...
    I love people that still have hope for this game. Good for you guys.....for having hope....but it being for Blizzard....im not so sure.
    Blizzard released a half finished game. They lied about PvP content. I can probably see Diablo being decent 1-2 years from now....a bit too late for me. 12+ years is a bit too much.
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