also, on which account is your monk? and why do you have 3 accounts?
lol, i used too. and it's because i have two twin brothers actually. Loras and Oge
and dude you are seriously a creep. go back under your bridge bro. (last post your getting from me..I have a bad habit of feeding the trolls hahah)
alk = 50~ exp/hour
old new = 65~
new new = 75~
wat i got from the vid. tbh i kinda like the idea of this new run. very fast and jam packed. no stack farming at the start
you'll have to let me know how it goes for you if you give it a try. cheers bro!
Pretty awesome route if anything, Im finding ALK routes to be pretty great though.
His route is definitely a great run, as he destroyed everyone in the paragon race
This route is just something new people can try, and happens to bemore effecient. which certainly does not hurt, hehe!
Raoha, this isn't even your route, it's skyhigh's route, you just copied his routes and claimed them as your own
Proof: eu[dot]battle[dot]net/d3/en/forum/topic/6134583402
It's perfectly possible that two people came up with something without knowing about the other. Happens all the time, don't just assume that he copied it.
I don't even use the diablo forum. The guy had the same approach as me. I wouldn't be surprised if 500 other people logged their runs to build an effecient run as well. I'm just sharing the run I came up with, as it has proved helpful to many players
I guess this is why people wanted you to post your logs - you didn't particularly strengthen credibility by improving your "faster than Alkaizer route" within just a few days of your first post. Secondly, there are still people who can't watch videos and/or would just like to read in one sentence what you changed, rather than watching yet another video to figure out what the difference is (which also requires everyone to watch your old video).
Sorry for the rant, but I'm really interested in this but can't watch videos right now...
Hey sorry Bro. I had posted the run and long below the vid. But I see someone posted on here before I could edit >< cheers
Yea, my first try. Amazing run for xp... also a leg dropped
Also I'm playing a plvl 62 witch doctor with a hellfire on my WD and a hellfire + leoric's on my follower. This was on MP0.
Hey man. What route were you doing previously? What was the xp difference? if you don't mind me asking. I'm just curious to see how other character classes work on this run
Disclaimer: check the date on the thread/video. Info could be outdated considering recent and future experience-related changes. Zero(pS)
Hey guys,
I thought my previous paragon route (posted a few days ago: http://www.diablofan...then-alkaizers/) was the fastest possible. But after a few more days of testing, I came up with a route 10% quicker then my last one. That's 30% faster then Alkaizers famous route! Check out the video of the route, its a few minutes long and gets straight to the point. I also included stats this time as alot of people wanted to see my log. Let me know what you fellow redditers think, as feedback is always much appreciated!
The Route:
why would you run skycrown first when the white mob density is good? You're killing all that trash with zero stacks. Plus traversing it takes too much time.
Seems to me saving skycrown for after five stacks is way better.
Arreat Core is the best for building stacks because it's short, has good elite density, with little time wasted killing trash mobs with low stack count.
Out of the 6 zones I use in the route, skycrown has the lowest xp/min, and the highest elites/min. This makes it perfect for starting the run with, as you can get that 4-5 stacks quick without sacrificing xp. The Core of Arreat's xp/min is too low in my opinion, which is why I don't use it, as my xp/min drops significantly.
Hmm so this is alkaiser run but he run skycrown instead of core of arreat?
Imo a faster way is to do core of arreat then tower of the damned lvl 1 and IF you dont have 5 stack run keep dept lvl 3 from the end to the start ( so this way you never get stuck in a deadend) . There is alway 2-4 pack in keep dept 3 and its a very small map .
How is it the alkaizer run? lol...
He doesn't have 2 of the 6 zones that are in my run... (including the top zone, Rakkis). Thats 33% of my run. And I don't have Core. The route is completely different..
so wait, your whole strategy to save 20% time is to change where you get your stacks? Why didn't you say "do alkaisers but start at stonefort and run backwards instead of core of arreat"... then your video could have been 7 mins shorter.
Am I missing something?
Forgive my bluntness, but your missing more then you think my friend. Alk doesn't even have Rakkis...Rakkis is the highest xp dense area in the game,. There is everything from grabbing the shrine at the end of FoS so you can run Arreat Crater 2 at a possible exp boost, to Getting the fastest five stacks while maintaining the highest xp possible (core is so slow and combined with ToTd, you may not even get your 5 stacks!!), while stonefort you will get 4-5 elites veyr effeciently. But no matter how you word it, the point is I was trying to come up with a faster run. AndI wanted to share what I found with this forum.
Some of us don't have video availability at work when we read the forums
if you could give a summary of what your trying to do it is a lot easier for us then trying to piece together what your doing from other posts.
If your run takes you 15 minutes it is probably slow.
When I was doing calculations I was doing it on the speed that it took me to clear a zone and the number of legendaries I got from the zone out of 100 runs to get a ball park on if it was useful or not.
I then optomized based on legendary drops vs time, which is not the same as xp.
I then can run basically any of the waypoints to compare it vs the benchmark numbers relatively quickly.
Or try other zones like vota but so far the modified alkaizer route with rakkis and keep 3 is the best I've encountered.
I do stonefort just for the key but its not faster, I've done skycrown before but it was inconsistent for the run times and with some dead space can lead to wotb down time
Waypoint to Stonefort Take the Door, Run Skycrown Battlements to End, Teleport to Town
Wayport to Tower of the Damned Level 1, Run the Circle
Wayport to Keep Depths 1, Enter Keep Depths 2, Teleport out at The Breach
Wayport to Rakkis Crossing, Run the Fields of Slaughter, Wayport to Arreat Crater Level 2
Run Arreat Crater Level 2
Restart
It takes me a little under 12 to do the entire run on average. This run is specifically made for xp/hour and not loot, although if you add the core and the caverns of frost in the fields of slaughter, it will be perfect for loot, as those two zones are extremely high in elites, but they will drop your exp/hour.
skycrown is actually just as xp dense as FoS and ToTd, and it also has a much higher elites/min and total elites then all of the top zones. so it is perfect to start a run with, as you get a quick 4-5 stacks without xp loss on the higher dense zones.
I am really interested in your spreadsheet numbers, because the video (i watched it) is your usual blabla talk..
The runs you did are totally inefficient and there isnt even a video proof for the 70mil XP/hour
regards =)
edit: huminator, give me your leorics instead of your follower!
Normally I would love to share my logs... Maybe if you had some decent manners. On the more positive side, you should try it out yourself if your are in disbelief, as the run only takes around 15 minutes
Awesome thanks for posting this it really is what I was what I have been looking for, for about a week or two now.
Few questions you can maybe answer that is making my brain hurt here.
1. Why use a leorics ring? Hellfire ring would give more xp AND godly stats. I understand the SOJ but leorics?!
2. Cull the Weak? Damage slowed enemies for 15% more damage. With the current build I do not see how the enemies would eve get slowed unless I am not able to see your gear slows them?
If you can let me know on these two questions it would really help me out. I have a little different gear but everything seems to be working out pretty good still. Here is my gear and setup if you, or anyone could check it and make suggestions that would be great!
1- TBH I got lazy and just decided to dish out the gold on a leoric's rather then Hellfire. I can already one shot most, so I figured it wouldn't save me THAT much time. I probably will snatch one up asap though!
2- I am using a cold SOJ and cold dmg slows enemies as long as you are using a physical attack and your weapon does physical damage (which iis why im not using a manticore, as it does poison dmg). Cull of the weak actually works on the FIRST hit with cold dmg, so essentially im doing 15% more dmg.
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lol, i used too. and it's because i have two twin brothers actually. Loras and Oge
and dude you are seriously a creep. go back under your bridge bro. (last post your getting from me..I have a bad habit of feeding the trolls hahah)
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you'll have to let me know how it goes for you if you give it a try. cheers bro!
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His route is definitely a great run, as he destroyed everyone in the paragon race
This route is just something new people can try, and happens to bemore effecient. which certainly does not hurt, hehe!
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Hey sorry Bro. I had posted the run and long below the vid. But I see someone posted on here before I could edit >< cheers
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Hey man. What route were you doing previously? What was the xp difference? if you don't mind me asking. I'm just curious to see how other character classes work on this run
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Hey guys,
I thought my previous paragon route (posted a few days ago: http://www.diablofan...then-alkaizers/) was the fastest possible. But after a few more days of testing, I came up with a route 10% quicker then my last one. That's 30% faster then Alkaizers famous route! Check out the video of the route, its a few minutes long and gets straight to the point. I also included stats this time as alot of people wanted to see my log. Let me know what you fellow redditers think, as feedback is always much appreciated!
The Route:
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Out of the 6 zones I use in the route, skycrown has the lowest xp/min, and the highest elites/min. This makes it perfect for starting the run with, as you can get that 4-5 stacks quick without sacrificing xp. The Core of Arreat's xp/min is too low in my opinion, which is why I don't use it, as my xp/min drops significantly.
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How is it the alkaizer run? lol...
He doesn't have 2 of the 6 zones that are in my run... (including the top zone, Rakkis). Thats 33% of my run. And I don't have Core. The route is completely different..
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Forgive my bluntness, but your missing more then you think my friend. Alk doesn't even have Rakkis...Rakkis is the highest xp dense area in the game,. There is everything from grabbing the shrine at the end of FoS so you can run Arreat Crater 2 at a possible exp boost, to Getting the fastest five stacks while maintaining the highest xp possible (core is so slow and combined with ToTd, you may not even get your 5 stacks!!), while stonefort you will get 4-5 elites veyr effeciently. But no matter how you word it, the point is I was trying to come up with a faster run. AndI wanted to share what I found with this forum.
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- Waypoint to Stonefort Take the Door, Run Skycrown Battlements to End, Teleport to Town
- Wayport to Tower of the Damned Level 1, Run the Circle
- Wayport to Keep Depths 1, Enter Keep Depths 2, Teleport out at The Breach
- Wayport to Rakkis Crossing, Run the Fields of Slaughter, Wayport to Arreat Crater Level 2
- Run Arreat Crater Level 2
- Restart
It takes me a little under 12 to do the entire run on average. This run is specifically made for xp/hour and not loot, although if you add the core and the caverns of frost in the fields of slaughter, it will be perfect for loot, as those two zones are extremely high in elites, but they will drop your exp/hour.skycrown is actually just as xp dense as FoS and ToTd, and it also has a much higher elites/min and total elites then all of the top zones. so it is perfect to start a run with, as you get a quick 4-5 stacks without xp loss on the higher dense zones.
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Normally I would love to share my logs... Maybe if you had some decent manners. On the more positive side, you should try it out yourself if your are in disbelief, as the run only takes around 15 minutes
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1- TBH I got lazy and just decided to dish out the gold on a leoric's rather then Hellfire. I can already one shot most, so I figured it wouldn't save me THAT much time. I probably will snatch one up asap though!
2- I am using a cold SOJ and cold dmg slows enemies as long as you are using a physical attack and your weapon does physical damage (which iis why im not using a manticore, as it does poison dmg). Cull of the weak actually works on the FIRST hit with cold dmg, so essentially im doing 15% more dmg.
Cheers man! glad your enjoying the run!