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Endless threads about the same crap, complaints (with no constructive points for the most part). Personally, I gave up on the game, went over to Path of Exile, which I feel better suits what I look for in a "hack and slash" type of game, complete lack of story, sure, but I don't care about that in this type of game.

It's pretty safe to say that most of the people talking about how they're so mad and screw this and screw that, are probably still playing on a daily basis.

If you're going to give up on it, then just do it, it isn't that hard!

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I quit reading when I saw the first use of the word force.

Get a dictionary, OP (and the rest of you whiners who keep saying you're "forced" to do things in this game).

Also, who leaves their family for 2 weeks for a release? I should have quit reading at that point.

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Exactly! Spot on!
I love Diablo 3, but the thing is the item hunt is turning me off, big time! Like I said, I did tell my self that I wouldn't be able to get the best items in game and the rarest. But I should get something interesting. I was looking forward to wield some mediocre items and cool unique weapon or armor.

what time period is appropriate for what items? what is mediocre?

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You're not forced to use the RMAH, or even the regular gold AH.

If you don't feel excitement when getting a legendary or identifying a rare item, that's not something Blizzard can fix. The problem lies in you (and while I say problem, it isn't really: it's just that your tastes have changed, so you do not find the same things exciting anymore. Which is fine). I know I feel excited when I see an ilevel 63 rare drop, just waiting to see if I get something awesome (got a couple of really nice items so far).

You don't need to farm for 8 hours a day. You only need to do that if you care about being number 1: if you don't, then you can go at your own pace. There's no rush, so stop feeling like there is. Again, those are your feelings, not any fault of Blizzard's.

Step away from the game. Take your time. Focus on yourself. You don't need to touch the AH if you don't want to, you can farm everything yourself. Everything will take a lot longer, but that seems to be what you want, so.

So no, there are no fixes for the game to address your problem. Because your problem 100% lies within yourself. Don't blame Blizzard because of your own attitude towards the game.

On a final note, you seriously left your family for 2 weeks to play D3? As in, left the house entirely and left your wife to deal with the kids by herself? I can understand taking a week or two off of work, but leaving your family? Get your priorities sorted out.

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You're not forced to use the RMAH, or even the regular gold AH.

If you don't feel excitement when getting a legendary or identifying a rare item, that's not something Blizzard can fix. The problem lies in you (and while I say problem, it isn't really: it's just that your tastes have changed, so you do not find the same things exciting anymore. Which is fine). I know I feel excited when I see an ilevel 63 rare drop, just waiting to see if I get something awesome (got a couple of really nice items so far).

You don't need to farm for 8 hours a day. You only need to do that if you care about being number 1: if you don't, then you can go at your own pace. There's no rush, so stop feeling like there is. Again, those are your feelings, not any fault of Blizzard's.

Step away from the game. Take your time. Focus on yourself. You don't need to touch the AH if you don't want to, you can farm everything yourself. Everything will take a lot longer, but that seems to be what you want, so.

So no, there are no fixes for the game to address your problem. Because your problem 100% lies within yourself. Don't blame Blizzard because of your own attitude towards the game.

On a final note, you seriously left your family for 2 weeks to play D3? As in, left the house entirely and left your wife to deal with the kids by herself? I can understand taking a week or two off of work, but leaving your family? Get your priorities sorted out.

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I'm sorry, snowhammer, but I completely disagree with you. I played D2 for 10 years, the overwhelming majority of it spent in SP or small LAN/tcp ip games, and let me tell you this: I saw many of the good items in D2, and I didn't need to trade, didn't need to go to D2JSP, and didn't need to grind 8 hours a day. The exception to this were the very top high runes; i never saw those, but they were way too rare. What I'm saying is that getting your own upgrades in D3 (totally ignoring the AH) takes WAY longer than in D2. You tried to make it sound like it's not like that, but it is. You can add to that the fact that items in D2 were way more inspired. In D3, all you're hoping for is "bigger numbers". You want gear with more Dex that you already have, with more Vit than you already have, more crit, etc. In D2 there were loads of items, especially Sets and Uniques, but also Rares, that had affixes that were DIFFERENT. Not just "oh, cool, these boots have 50 str more than my current ones, so technically they're an upgrade, hurray". The items in D3 are lacking in the 'flavour' and 'variety' department, i don't think anyone can argue with that.

Greetings fellow Diablo 3 players.

I rarely post anything, I'm really not the public forum poster type. I just cant hold it in longer.
After talking it over with friends I think its time speak out. Apologies if this is a re-post of the same topic somewhere.

There is a an TL:DR at the bottom

I'm a veteran gamer for 22 years, I'm 30 years old family man. Ive played all sorts of games and Ive always gone more for the adventure/action role playing games. One of my best memories was Dark Castle on Mac and Dungeon Master on Atari. But when I got my hands on the Diablo I demo back in 97. If I remember correctly the demo was up to the Butcher or 2 dungeons. I was mesmerized! Bought the game the day after. So epic so much fun! I played all the characters to the max. Really remember farming Archbishop Lazarus with my Rogue! I also played the Sierra expansion too. So good memories.
I really didn't stick to much to Diablo II but I played 2x Amazons(Javazon and Bowazon) to ca lvl 69 and a Necro to lvl 60. I was a casual gamer back then.
I have fond memories of Diablo II and the amazing Cow Level. Ive played some MMO's over the past 15 years, Ultima Online, Daoc, Eve Online and WoW from release, recently canceled my subscription.

Enough of my gaming history.

When I found out Diablo III was in the making I got very exited. At this point Ive become a hardcore gamer, been playing WoW way to much and other games as well. In vanilla WoW I was one of the first on my server to get the Thunderfury. I did all the hard work my self. So I know about hard grinding.

When Diablo III had an exact release date I told my fiance that I would be moving out for 1-2 weeks on the 15th of may. So I actually left my family to play a video game. Well that's hardcore for a family man. Me and my 3 friends had a lot of fun. We played long hours and died a lot and had good laughs together. But I always found something missing, but I didn't think much about what is was. We got to lvl 60 and we where so exited to get to the item grind in Inferno and see all the amazing items that where waiting for us to loot of dead epic monsters. NV stacks at last and a lot of yellow stuff falling all over the place. We where so happy, at last we get some epic loot, Legendaries, Set Items, some crazy affixes and interesting items that would make my hero godlike.

We where so wrong. Sadly to say it took me almost 2 months to realize that this game was all about making me become a farmer, a little pawn for a Big Blockbuster Gaming Company named Activision/Blizzard to make them more money.
I will not use the RMAH. I was thinking of using it but after thinking about it, Ive come to the conclusion that I will not use it as it feels like I'm forced to use it. I don't want to be forced.

I want to farm my own items and get the satisfaction on getting them my self. Like my Thunderfury back in the days of Vanilla WoW, I'm very proud of that even to day. It will always be one of my favorite memories of WoW, when I wielded my Thunderfury for the first time, I felt so powerful and actually I felt like I accomplished something, weird to say that when its a fantasy/action role playing game and not Real Life.

I know Diablo III is suppose to be a item grind and you are suppose to do that for many hours, weeks and months to get the best items, that's fine. Ive done that in many games. I have patience and time. But the thing is I want it to be rewarding as well. I don't get any satisfaction on grinding for items in Diablo III, I have Pony LvL on farm, ACT1/2 in Inferno, cant be hassled with ACT3 don't have the equipment yet to get through it without insanely high repair costs.

I got an legendary last night and ca 10-15 ilvl63 items. When I saw the legendary drop I didn't get exited at all, I really didn't and when I was Id'ing the ilvl63 items, I didn't find any excitement like in other games when I was checking out if they where any good.

I love Diablo III in many ways, but the item hunt and the lack of fun, exciting, awesome looking, show off items (I was hoping to wield) is so frustrating and obnoxious. Its turning me away from this game. Which makes me very sad. Because I really wanted to like playing this game for many months or years with my friends and new friends.

I really hope this game gets fixed, but I really don't think it will be. I honestly don't think so.
Because every fix and patch is handled in the wrong way, dev's seem to work very slowly, from CM's posts Ive seen, it sound its very hard and takes a very long time to make the "smallest" fixes needed to make this game better.

Why on earth are you focusing on Magic Find gear swapping? You should be doing the Dev Blog about how to make the game more joyful, more fun, more exiting, not how to fix something that really isn't number 1 priority right now. Try to change something that is more important like making the items more fun, give us the change to get a full legendary set when leveling. I didn't get one set item while leveling, I got one crappy 2h staf and a friend gave me broken Legendary Set Monk leggings (atp didn't work).

Maybe the Item hunting isn't broken for Activison/Blizzard RMAH or the AH. But for the gamer who wants to hunt his own armor and weapons its broken, I didn't get any satisfaction on buying that 620dps 440LoH, 2.6Life Leech,103dex, Socket 1h Sword for 50k or 140dex, 40AR, 10%crit gloves for 75k Bid, I sniped those two, wow I got lucky there! Got a multimillion weapon and amazing gloves for a pocket change, I'm not really proud of it, but I got what I was trying to farm on my Monk.

I hate to refer to other games when I'm talking about Diablo III, but how did you get this wrong. Probably 50-70% of the gamers that are playing the game are for the items and the hunt, if there where no rares, legendaries and set items, I don't think many people would stick to the game. Well for my part there are no legendaries and set items. Diablo II had fun affixes on items, more frequent epic/unique items and set items drops, and actually usable items, not all garbage, I didn't need to go to 3rd party web site to buy items.
Titan Quest had frequent drops of cool fun unique items. Torchlight had some interesting items, looks like Torchlight 2 will have a lot of fun items, more frequent drops, more fun then the previous game but haven't checked that much on it. I played Kingdom of Amalure, it was an average game, but it was an insane item fest, I like it only because of the insane amount of items and the variations on crafting items. Sadly my HD crashed with the gamesaves, didn't bother installing again because of Diablo III coming soon after.

Now Ive given up. I don't want to be forced to use the AH or the RMAH. I don't want to farm 8 hours a day, 7 days a week to get 1 or 2 upgrades. That's not fun for me. I'm not alone on that one, I'm sure of that. I'm glad that some people are still having fun. My fun right now is plowing through act1/act2 just to kill not to loot, because I know its crap. It's not going to last long.

Ive got the 200+ hours I paid for, I'm not complaining on putting my money in this game. Ive played less hours on similar games and was not satisfied how short it was and easy. I just hoped Diablo III would be more fun. Which it isn't, sadly to say. I'm not going to uninstall the game, I´m going to monitor patches, play casually when I'm bored. Check with friends in co-op if some are online, which is rarely, mostly 1 or 2 online. Going to test Patch 1.1 and so on.

Hope I didn't bore you to death with this wall of text.

TL:DR; Im 30yrs, 22 veteran gamer, Item hunt is obnoxious, Blizzard forcing me to use AH and RMAH not appealing, turning me away from the game. Blizzard focusing on the wrong things in patches and dev blogs is just plain wrong. MF swapping? Really? Why not make the game fun first.
I don't get satisfaction on sniping multimillion gold items on AH for 50-100k, like when I find this godly item that Ive been dreaming about, like when I got my Thunderfury in WoW. That's the kinda hunt everyone wants I think.

Regards
Umarth "The Ill-fated"

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." -Albert Einstein

p.s I'm at work writing this and I need to hurry home, probably have to edit this later, didn't read it over. English is not my first language. I'm actually Icelandic. Posting on both EU and US.