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I am just pissed that everything is BOA, I mean all we can do now to get gear is to grind and hope that the drops will be good for the character we are using.... I really hope there is some way to trade stuff otherwise it will get boring very fast..

I am still not happy about the stupid legendary being Account bound....

To me it seems like they cant figure out how to do trading properly so they are just going to look the other way and hope people dont see it coming. I mean the whole legendary being soul bound is a bit stupid. Trading has been a core part of D2 and D3. I just dont see how they think it is a good idea... I mean if I am farming and i get a cool wizard item, I wont be able to trade it for a cool barb item because it will b soul bound.... just seems like a terrible idea to me.

So are the stat caps from items or just all things. Because if the 250% CC is just items then it will be ok because you can get to 360% with a gem, but if the gem is included then it would make CC gear useless... you could get like 2-3 pieces of gear with CC and the rest would be stat waste.

To be honest I love to trade I remember I used to spend hours in D2 just trading gear, most of the time i made good trades and combined with farming runs I was able to progress into higher levels of gear. Only problem with D2 for me was the fact that at some point in gear curve the drop chance for BIS gear was so small that people either overpriced the gear or just wanted strait up cash for it. After that happened jsp started up and everyone and their mom started to sell their top gear there. I feel that trading is needed for the game to feel complete. I also don't know how I feel about smart drops I mean it will get boring when you have mostly BIS gear yet only gear for your character keeps drops even thou it is a side-grade at that point, but only time will tell.

All in all I hope blizzard at lest give back trading channels and good ways to make trade games otherwise there will be a lot of scamming going on which will just make them do work they don't want to do.

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While I look forward to loot 2.0 I really do not hope for 2000 dps EE's to be dropping all that is going to do is make it where you will only be able to sell very very high end gear for some profit.. which would mean i would end up sitting on 3-5 1800-2000 dps weapons because I would not be able to sell them or trade them for something that I could use.

Well... yea. Welcome to how everything in the world works. There's no way around people wanting the top .1% of gear, which to many people, makes the rest of the 99.9% useless. This is ALWAYS going to happen.

The problem actually lies in your outlook on the game. Stop immediately putting a price on an item that drops because you want to instantly sell it. In loot 2.0 *if* they are able to accurately address the self found issue, than hopefully your attitude shifts from seeing a legendary beam, thinking 'I wonder what that's worth!' to seeing a legendary beam and thinking 'Oh man I hope that's a good upgrade'! =)

The point of my post here is to hopefully get you to understand that there's absolutely nothing anyone can do about people wanting the best of the best items.

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While I look forward to loot 2.0 I really do not hope for 2000 dps EE's to be dropping all that is going to do is make it where you will only be able to sell very very high end gear for some profit.. which would mean i would end up sitting on 3-5 1800-2000 dps weapons because I would not be able to sell them or trade them for something that I could use.

Well... yea. Welcome to how everything in the world works. There's no way around people wanting the top .1% of gear, which to many people, makes the rest of the 99.9% useless. This is ALWAYS going to happen.

The problem actually lies in your outlook on the game. Stop immediately putting a price on an item that drops because you want to instantly sell it. In loot 2.0 *if* they are able to accurately address the self found issue, than hopefully your attitude shifts from seeing a legendary beam, thinking 'I wonder what that's worth!' to seeing a legendary beam and thinking 'Oh man I hope that's a good upgrade'! =)

The point of my post here is to hopefully get you to understand that there's absolutely nothing anyone can do about people wanting the best of the best items.

I hope that Loot 2.0 makes all Legendaries BOA - That Legendaries are better than Rares and so that top 1% of items can only be found and not bought.
'Play to win' would then finally prevail over 'Pay to win'..

I knew I should have made my self cleared lol I knew I was going to get this response. I don't mean I want to sell the items on AH I just want them to have some bargaining power, what I mean is i play a DH if i get a EE with say 1700 DPS i want to be able to trade it for a DH item. If everyone and their mom is getting 1700-2000 dps EE i will get shit for my trade that is all. Not to mention it will push everyone and their mom into MP10 farming... which would make then whole MP1-10 scale worthless.

While I look forward to loot 2.0 I really do not hope for 2000 dps EE's to be dropping all that is going to do is make it where you will only be able to sell very very high end gear for some profit.. which would mean i would end up sitting on 3-5 1800-2000 dps weapons because I would not be able to sell them or trade them for something that I could use.

I can see how your idea is good I just feel that there should be a way to trade very good loot, if the best loot in the game was only self found then there would be very little incentive to trade, maybe in the beginning and after that it would be for side grades. I mean i know RMAH is crap at moment but there are always going to be people that are willing to shell out 2000 dollars for an item. Also if self found loot was the best it would play a lot more on people playing 10-15 hours a day which you cant expect people to actually do.

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Official Blizzard Quote:

"Loot 2.0 is following a "less is more" philosophy"

How does this fit with the previous examples shown, where they show that in vanilla where 1 legendary would drop, 6 will drop in RoS?

We'll see less items overall (if we include white blues and rares).
It seems weird though that if we find 6 times more legendary and if those legendary themselves are really better, then that would mean a huge improvement in the quality of the drops, and I'm not sure that much improvement is what they intend to do.

That is what worries me a lot I have a sneaky feeling that 80-90% of the legendary that will drop after loot 2.0 will all be BoA thus in a way they will make trading a bit harder to do, especially if they make legendary so much better than rares.

That's why i think it is good that loot 2.0 and Para 2.0 are coming out before the Xpac that way we can see if the game is indeed moving into the right direction.

I really hope that if you can re-roll the affix it is only one per item. I don't want to be forced to re-roll 5-6 affixes per item.

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To be honest i don't see what is with all the PVP calls.... D2LOD was never about PVP, sure was PVP fun yes, was it core to the game in my own opinion no... so i really don't see PVP as that big of a problem... now for the old acts not being randomized, you cant really expect them to go back and work on 4 acts while doing everything else and only charging 40 bucks... i could see that if RoS does very well they may add act upgrades later on for free to help randomize the game some more... but in all honesty after everyone starts doing loot runs which will be completely randomized I don't think many people will care that most of the game is not random.

I guess... it was... just... lazy implementation to begin with... so lets all... forgive them... for being lazy...

Sorry I couldn't help myself. Usually one period does the trick.

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They also said that they are reworking a lot of the original acts. So that could mean big changes and more randomization. We will have to wait and see.

And so we shall :x I hope you are correct.

My bad I just start to get a little pissed every time a see a post that bring PVP into the core issues of the game. As for forgiving them I never really said that, but the fact is the damage they did is done nothing we can do about it. I do want to at least give them money for RoS because they finally seem to be listening to the majority of the community about the direction of the game.

To be honest I am all for lowering CC and CD as long as they stick to what they are saying and making self found gear worth a damn... the whole reason people started to stack CC and CD was because all the best people did it and if you really think about it the CC and CD items were the only ones selling at AH there fore most people got CC and CD... but I am not sure if they do nerf CC and CD then I hope they do something about mob HP because for MP10 you do need some crazy CC and CD to be able to kill them in a decent amount of time.

To be honest i don't see what is with all the PVP calls.... D2LOD was never about PVP, sure was PVP fun yes, was it core to the game in my own opinion no... so i really don't see PVP as that big of a problem... now for the old acts not being randomized, you cant really expect them to go back and work on 4 acts while doing everything else and only charging 40 bucks... i could see that if RoS does very well they may add act upgrades later on for free to help randomize the game some more... but in all honesty after everyone starts doing loot runs which will be completely randomized I don't think many people will care that most of the game is not random.

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Yea I hope it wont be too easy I dont want to see people para 600 2 months into the expac...

I do. Now what?

Well that's your hope and all lol but seriously if the paragon levels are infinite then i hope that they make the curve in XP a good one other wise if you can quickly get to 600 people will dump everything in the main stats and then just work on MF/ movement from that point on...