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Edit:- I created this topic right off the bat flaming?You didn't tell me so.

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I'm not going to argue with you (yet) but if you want to sound like a reasonable person at least try and pretend you don't hate a lot of the users here? Throwing the word fanboy around like people are going around with it printed on their shirts will not help you in your arguments.

You were warned on the first page that your VERY FIRST POST was antagonistic. You could have eased up a bit, but you chose to, especially in the last two pages, really hit the gas pedal with the insults. You went so far as to make a post whose text was only

The game was made for consoles get over it blizz fanboys(targeting no one in particular).

which ABSOLUTELY crossed the line. That's almost certainly what got you infracted. It was so absurdly unnecessary, it wasn't a part of another post, which frequently get overlooked because the mods here ARE fairly lenient. It was a stand-alone post whose only purpose was to flame people, when you should have been easing up on the hate rhetoric bullshit.

We get that you feel that the game has been designed for a console, but you refuse to respond to the mountains of evidence supplied that suggest exactly the opposite - namely that they CLEARLY have had to redesign stuff for the console from the PC version, whereas if the game were developed for a console with the PC version as the afterthought, all this interface stuff and other obvious changes should have been made. It shouldn't have taken over a year (at this point) to get all these new camera angles, controller commands, etc. ready for launch.

What you're suggesting would imply a timeline that is very different from what we've actually observed which, in and of itself, really casts serious doubt on the rest of your casual observations as to why the game was "designed for consoles."

And, honestly, the idea that they gave us a shitty PC version so that we'd have to go buy a better console version rather defies logic, period. That would basically be Blizzard committing massive suicide. They'd lose such a huge chunk of their fanbase by making that kind of douche move that it would never be worth the short-term gains from extra sales. It completely goes against any semblence of business sense. Why some of you people continue to insist that Blizzard is trying to make money by submarining their fans is just beyond me. Blizzard has been successful by doing the very opposite. It just completely lacks common sense and it has absolutely no precedent either.

Dude i have seen many posts where all the people are like hey although i didn't like this game its gonna be fun sitting on a couch in my living room.Want links?

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A: You're asking for flaming with the tone you use in your post, I suggest a slightly more constructive manner.
B; I understand you like some features that console has that PC doesn't. This however does not mean D3 was meant for consoles first and PC has been a testing ground. This is evident in the fact that they had to change core elements such as camera angle, dodge moves, drop rates and skills for console.

You can be mad that console features aren't on the PC, that's fine. Going as far as you have at trying to instigate flame wars is another thing.

Well first thing i in all my posts i have replied to people without starting a flame war.They're saying the same things again and again an im still replying calmly.I have not started a flame war,but a war of words.

Second,that post which was "Flame" was not even targeted at anyone.

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You said it runs pink, but now it doesnt run at all? And the console version isnt released, you dont even know how itll play. If the only things you like about the console version are listed in the OP those have ALREADY been debunked:
Items? We are getting it.
Camera angles on boss battles? As has been said, on the PC version this is a detriment as it becomes harder to move around without direct control.
Dodge? We can already dodge, we dont need a button. Also, "dodge buttons" are notoriously liked on consoles and usually disliked on PC

Which bad features are not on console but are on PC? If you say RMAH/AH, I will call you silly because this is an optional feature that you dont need to use. Also, we havent been a testing ground for consoles... this is tinfoil hat level conspiracy. We are a testing ground for ourselves. Everything that is in the console is in the PC version. They couldve just as easily sold tons more copies off of the initial hype (prior to the bad press) if they had released it on both the console and PC at the same time. But they didnt. Why? Because the game wasnt developed for a console.


It is a shift-click. They dont have a mouse to target so pushing your button likely attacks in the direction you face. This doesnt mean that itll attack as fast as possible by mashing the button. If you want the same experience, go mash a button on your PC while holding shift. It will have the same result.

Different games are different. Also, in many situations holding the button isnt optimal, depending on the ability. Also, it has been said that attack speed was listed on the equipment. Why would attack speed be present on items if it were irrelevant?

1.By not running i meant the pink thing,Its the same as not running since you aren't able to play properly.(Unless you have super resistant eyes)

2.I've never believed the RMAH to be bad.Cos its upto you whether you use it or not and it has reduced the effectiveness of 3rd party sites if not renedered them completely useless.I've posted in many threads asking how the RMAH has ruined the game.

However,however,i do believe the GMAH has ruined the game.When you have farmed for a lot of time and you have found no upgrades,but you have a good amount of gold,you will want to check the GMAH,no matter how much you hate it.And then you can't stop yourself from buying that awesome upgrade since you have the gold and you are frustrated by useless farming.That's the reason it hasn't been removed yet.

They didn't sell it at the starting because as they said they were still working on it.Isn't that obvious? The console team hadn't even completely developed the game at that time.

3.Holding the button isn't optimal because it doesn't make sense in consoles.Seriously anyone who has played a console game knows that,even Arpgs.

But i've seen many other posts like that where people call anyone who loves this game a brainwashed-idiot and anyone who hates this game an EA-fanboy(Why?) or a moron.So i thought this was no different.

The fact bugs me that you gave me a slight warning from the start and then took action after 60+ replies.

If that statement was harsh,then the ones in the original post were 10x harsh.

Anyway lets not discuss modding on the forums,until my infraction wears off or i start paying as a curse member.

So i spam Daemaro with the posts? Ok Sorry.

And you said at the starting something about people putting me in corner of their minds you didn't warn me at all.

Edit:- I created this topic right off the bat flaming?You didn't tell me so.

@RabidDeer:- D2 doesn't run on my laptop man.Window options and all.And i have stated in an earlier post in some other thread that i like D3 better.But the console version is much better than the pc version.That's what i'm saying the entire time.

What i wanna say:- I LIKE D3.CONSOLE VERSION IS BETTER.THEY GOT BETTER FEATURES,THE ONES WE'VE BEEN SCREAMING FOR.THE GOOD FEATURES OF PC ARE IN CONSOLE.THE BAD FEATURES ARE NOT.HENCE I SAY THE GAME'S BEEN ACTING AS A TESTING GROUND FOR CONSOLES UNTIL NOW.(capslock helps)

@Bandyto:- Oh so i am trolling? If you check the link you'll really find the post there.And that's a nice one LOL about liking potatoes when you can't do to prove anyone wrong.I'll add that to my list of lame excuses.

@All Forum Moderators:- Since you seem so keen on providing infractions overneathe,i'm gonna help you . I'll spam you with all Flame posts i find and i will see if Zero(ps) goes there and makes a big issue too.

@Zero(PS):- I found a thing about atk speed on the console video on home page.I haven't read your last post about atk speed will get back to you as soon as this infraction crap is explained to me or why i have seen 27 posts(As of now) till now that are clearly flaming yet there has been no action taken yet.

Edit:- Ok i have read that post.I did not take offense due to the ultra-facepalm because it was just for fun.Smileys are always for fun.Like this one:-

And about the cleave,in the video,first they show "Five Powerful Character Classes",then they show "Barbarian". During the barb segment there is a part where he cleaves a monster 3 times. When he hits the 3rd time, he is not facing the monster but rather facing towards one side/corner of the monster. And he still cleaves.This shows that whenever you will press the "X" button the barb will cleave right there instantly without the requirement of a target.(Just like shift- attacking).

I've seen this in many games like god of war where even if you are not exactly facing the monster but facing in the general direction you are able to hit.And never in those type of hits have i seen attack speed or holding the button coming into play.So one thing is clear you dont have to hold the button which means that the Cleave depends on your speed not on attack speed.Because its present in every console game,this mechanic.

@RabidDeer:- I told you the car example could not convey what i was thinking.But your WoW example isn't appropriate either as WoW is constantly receiving updates and expansions and stuff.Diablo 2 is receiving patches too and the ladder is still present but it is not as major as wow.And no i don't want the same feeling as D2 in fact i never even stated in any of my post that i think D2 is better than D3 until you said to me to go play D2.Its obvious both games will never be the same.

@All Forum Moderators:-So are you kidding me?You gave me an infraction for flaming?Who exactly did i flame?Just because some guy cries Flame!Flame! means you give me an infraction for flaming?Or is it that you don't like what i have stated in my original post is not being proved wrong?And anyway what does an infraction do?

And i know you will dodge this question and answer in some way that doesn't make sense but who did i flame?

And check this out:- http://www.diablofans.com/news/1634-console-version-of-diablo-3-offline-play-no-rmah-not-exclusive-to-sony-hands-on-console-gameplay/page__st__40/

Check post #10 by Xathian.For those who dont wan't to click the link here's his post:-

"I love how the fanboy posts about how he's buying the console version too immediately responds to defend his glorious Blizzard from any dissent.

He has every right to complain about the game he paid for being nothing but a shitty, feature stripped beta for the console version.

You should also relax on trying to play the superiority game over others when you're the idiot buying a second copy of the same game and wearing that as some sort of badge of honor."

Oops i forgot he pays you!! He is Curse Premium. Money talks.Never knew Diablofans forums were like b.net too.

@Xathian:- Sorry for pulling you into this.Really Sorry.

@All Forum Moderators:- Again you gotta be kidding me if u say i flamed.Its like you never see your own forums go and you'll find worse posts there.And u haven't seen the real flaming.

Yeah too long quotes.

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Why the fk should i play diablo 2 when i have diablo 3.Yes i don't care about graphics and stuff but now diablo 3 is the thing to play.I don't know how should i put it in words but i'll give an example:-

Imagine you had an old model car which you loved.But now you have a new car and you drive it but its not even close to the feeling of your old car.

But you can't drive your old car because its old and the services for the car are hard to find and also its not in a good condition.

I know it doesn't explain the thing i wanna convey but that's pretty much what i am able to come up with.

And the ban thing...its just for fanboys. If you're not a fanboy u shouldn't have a problem with it.

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Dear Senior Mods. thank you for your input, and what not. However, being hierarchy on this site doesnt mean u have any inside track, only that u post a lot and tend to make "likeable" statements. Fact is the OP has valid unprovable points. Like it or not.

What is a valid unprovable point? This is entirely contradictory. Anybody that isnt blindly angry at blizzard can see that the game was designed for PC first, console second.

Well, for starters we have had the game on PC for nearly a year and its still not on console. If it takes Blizzard that long to change the inputs to a controller then they have some issues with development. To those that say it looks "better" than the PC version due to certain features... you are aware that blizzard is releasing many of those on the PC too? You are also aware that Blizzard works in iterations? By iterations, I mean they constantly refine a product until it is satisfactory. You know these last 7 patches we have gotten? They have all been iterations. They are figuring out what WE want and are implementing what WE want. You know that awesome sounding patch that they are talking about now? And the patch after that? We asked for that stuff and they are putting it in.

Shut up and either enjoy the game or leave the game.

Oh well i've chosen the first option.In fact right now im going to enjoy some pvp with my monk.Will be back in half an hour.

But the second option ie Leave the game is stupid.Why should i leave the game?Because blizzard fked the game up? I still have hope for this game,so stop telling people who dont blindly follow blizz like you to leave.

Alright, then since you chose to stay. Go make constructive criticism. Go explain what you want in the game and why in a positive manner. Do that instead of making threads complaining about your belief that this game was made for consoles when it wasnt. Stop trying to throw fuel on the fire of people riding the hate train on blizzard.

PS: You say you chose D2 earlier in 2007 despite there being graphically superior games etc. Why then do you choose to play D3 since you clearly dont care for graphics or any of that nonsense? If it is such a bad game and blizzard screwed it up so badly... why arent you playing D2 instead? You can leave a game and have hope for its future, yet you havent left it.

Are you kidding me?I should go leave d3 and try d2?Actually thats a very good idea.I'll install it today but still those who dont like a game because it didn't live up to its predecessor which was released 10 years ago should go play the predecessor?And people call my arguments invalid LOL.

Edit:- Oh the game runs pinkish on my laptop.But i wonder why D3 doesnt run pinkish when d2 runs pinkish??Actually i rememberd this because i had tried to install it 2 months ago when i was bored of d3.

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Dear Senior Mods. thank you for your input, and what not. However, being hierarchy on this site doesnt mean u have any inside track, only that u post a lot and tend to make "likeable" statements. Fact is the OP has valid unprovable points. Like it or not.

What is a valid unprovable point? This is entirely contradictory. Anybody that isnt blindly angry at blizzard can see that the game was designed for PC first, console second.

Well, for starters we have had the game on PC for nearly a year and its still not on console. If it takes Blizzard that long to change the inputs to a controller then they have some issues with development. To those that say it looks "better" than the PC version due to certain features... you are aware that blizzard is releasing many of those on the PC too? You are also aware that Blizzard works in iterations? By iterations, I mean they constantly refine a product until it is satisfactory. You know these last 7 patches we have gotten? They have all been iterations. They are figuring out what WE want and are implementing what WE want. You know that awesome sounding patch that they are talking about now? And the patch after that? We asked for that stuff and they are putting it in.

Shut up and either enjoy the game or leave the game.

Oh well i've chosen the first option.In fact right now im going to enjoy some pvp with my monk.Will be back in half an hour.

But the second option ie Leave the game is stupid.Why should i leave the game?Because blizzard fked the game up? I still have hope for this game,so stop telling people who dont blindly follow blizz like you to leave.

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My whole point is that your title and the point of your post is to try and prove that D3 was made for consoles this whole time, when (while I didn't need the help) you helped prove just the opposite.

Please Explain How.

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Your entire point of "D3 was designed from consoles" is obviously false, because they changed MANY core elements to make it work on consoles. So a quick answer to your drawn-out question; No, it was designed for PC. It was then re-designed for consoles.

This.

Ok one forum moderator quotes me on my own sentence and adds an "Ultra-Facepalm" in the end and other uses simple words like "This" and "That".

Anyway Nuvian i added a +1 to your statement just for fun.

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I can't complain too much about Diablo 3. I enjoy the game even today. Fast paced, some interesting fights, some minmaxing with gear -10% of what might be and I hope it will be soon-...

But I feel like I was Betaing for the consoles...

If 1.0.8 brings a dodge button and fewer but better items... The we will know that we've been played and I will feel insulted, like someone said. And if 1.09 or 1.1 or whatever even doesn't exist and we must wait till expansion I will rage.

Maybe childish, maybe nerdie... but I will be pissed. Nerd rage is so sweet, and you feel warm and part of a enraged and sweet and warm group... Nerd rage!

-The sad part is that between all this sarcasm is possible thet we've been taking part in the first beta paid by the customers of the history. If in a decade or so, some dark developer earns his week of glory uncovering a lot of rubbish swept under the carpet during the developing of DIII and that is confirmed, then I will feel truly sad-

Same here.