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    posted a message on The biggest fallacy in game forums.
    As I was looking over the developer chat, I saw this in one of the questions:

    I believe I speak for the majority of the community

    This is one of the most annoying issues on this or any other game forum.

    No one person should think they can speak for anyone outside their own circle of friends. Definitely no one person can speak for a majority of the 1 million daily users, or the 3 million monthly users.

    We see this all the time, though, in these forums and the official forums, where people project their own outlook, and think that it has to be the majority view because they said so.

    Also, "They didn't do what I wanted" is not the same as "They're not listening to my feedback!"
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    posted a message on Should AH's be removed from Diablo 3?
    Quote from maka

    Quote from mavfin

    Quote from Shadout

    A game developer can design a game where players aren't incentivized to hurt their own gaming experience - since the game developer is in full control. They obviously can't do anything regarding your personal life.

    I still don't buy that argument. No one is forcing anyone to use the AH. No one and/or nothing. It's a *choice*.

    Just to check: you know what 'coercion' is, right? Just saying that, sometimes, a choice isn't really a choice at all.

    Yes. I know exactly what I mean. I saw this argument used in WoW, and I didn't buy it then. Nor do I now. 'The game forced me to' is just code for 'I made a choice but I don't want to acknowledge it'.

    Edit: Usually in the way of "Because I play a certain way, this choice is not a choice." But, you still *chose* to play in that way. So, if a particular choice is not a choice, there was another choice you made before that binding you. Still your problem.
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    posted a message on Should AH's be removed from Diablo 3?
    Quote from Magusrex

    some of just have a vested interest in keeping things exactly the way they are.

    To be clear, I don't have a vested interest in it. I don't flip stuff over on the AH, and indeed, I barely use it at all. However, I don't like a useful tool taken away just because some people don't have the self-control to use it (or not use it) properly.
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    posted a message on Should AH's be removed from Diablo 3?
    Quote from Shadout

    A game developer can design a game where players aren't incentivized to hurt their own gaming experience - since the game developer is in full control. They obviously can't do anything regarding your personal life.

    I still don't buy that argument. No one is forcing anyone to use the AH. No one and/or nothing. It's a *choice*.
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    posted a message on Should AH's be removed from Diablo 3?
    Quote from Shadout

    Quote from mavfin

    The main problem AH's caused was not caused by the AH itself. It was caused by people who used the AH to outfit their toons with the very best gear they could buy, then got mad because they didn't get any upgrades as drops for a while after that. They screwed themselves, and then couldn't understand why, so they blamed the AH, rather than the real culprit: themselves.
    Game design 101: It's NEVER the players fault.

    I disagree completely. Sometimes it IS the players' fault. Spending too much time on World of Warcraft and losing your job is a self-control issue, not a game design issue. So is misuse of the AH in D3.
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    posted a message on Should AH's be removed from Diablo 3?
    Quote from Magusrex

    Quote from mavfin

    No, that's not
    Quote from Magusrex

    1 You should not be able to resell an item for more than you bought it on either AH(stops price gouging and puts items in the hands of people that can uses them instead of item flippers)
    2 You should not be able buy items off GAH and sell on RMAH, reverse is fine

    No. Just no.

    The market handles AH pricing.

    The AH has a few simple rules, and they work fine.

    1) If it sells, it's not overpriced. If it's overpriced, it won't sell. 'Gouging' in the AH is not possible. It's a GAME; i.e. luxury. There are no monopolies or 'essential to life' items. You can pay the price...or not.
    2) If you think something's too high, you're free to farm or craft your own item.
    3) If you think something's too low, (i.e. you got undercut), you're perfectly welcome to buy it and reprice it. If you don't want to do that, see rule 4.
    4) Don't whine about prices.

    It does not handle pricing, people with tons cash, buy anything up that resmebles the items they have up for sale and puts them up for those prices. It keeps new players from wanting to join the game or old players from returning. Increase the drops because thats whats fun, do something to the AH.

    Those items must still be selling, or, they're getting them back and wasting a sale slot. Again, the AH self-corrects. If it's selling, it's not overpriced. Nothing more or less. If *you* don't want to make the gold to buy the stuff, then, that's your issue.

    There's no need for an AH welfare system or price controls. The AH isn't necessary to play the game, either. My Inferno farmer is self-found in all slots, and I only bought about three items as I leveled, just because of bad drop luck. (And replaced all three with drops)

    Again, the AH is *optional*. If you don't like the prices, don't use it. If people won't come to the game, or leave because there's no welfare AH prices, then, I don't miss them.
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    posted a message on Should AH's be removed from Diablo 3?
    Quote from Magusrex

    1 You should not be able to resell an item for more than you bought it on either AH(stops price gouging and puts items in the hands of people that can uses them instead of item flippers)
    2 You should not be able buy items off GAH and sell on RMAH, reverse is fine

    No. Just no.

    The market handles AH pricing.

    The AH has a few simple rules, and they work fine.

    1) If it sells, it's not overpriced. If it's overpriced, it won't sell. 'Gouging' in the AH is not possible. It's a GAME; i.e. luxury. There are no monopolies or 'essential to life' items. You can pay the price...or not.
    2) If you think something's too high, you're free to farm or craft your own item.
    3) If you think something's too low, (i.e. you got undercut), you're perfectly welcome to buy it and reprice it. If you don't want to do that, see rule 4.
    4) Don't whine about prices.
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    posted a message on Should AH's be removed from Diablo 3?
    I don't see removing an optional feature just because some don't have the self-control to not use it.

    The main problem AH's caused was not caused by the AH itself. It was caused by people who used the AH to outfit their toons with the very best gear they could buy, then got mad because they didn't get any upgrades as drops for a while after that. They screwed themselves, and then couldn't understand why, so they blamed the AH, rather than the real culprit: themselves.

    I wouldn't mind seeing the RMAH go, but I don't care if it stays. Again, if people get $$ in their eyes and whine about the time spent hunting for that perfect item to sell...that's their own self-control, not the game's fault.

    Maybe it's because I'm older and have teenage kids, but, I just don't see several of the issues as design issues within the game. They're problems that people have because they lack self-control and/or didn't think things through before hitting the 'buy' button.

    YMMV.

    The AH is great if you have that one slot that you just haven't seen a drop for, don't get me wrong. But it's just the height of stupidity to outfit yourself with an entire gearset of the best stuff from the AH and then whine you can't get upgrades from drops.
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    posted a message on So whats the point in playing anymore? (constructive no flame please)
    Quote from Smashr

    Quote from Bagstone

    You can always upgrade your equipment. You can always do something new - hunt achievements, try PvP, play another class, hardcore, ubers, try out fun builds, and so on. Is it repetitive? Sure as hell it is. Repetition has always been part of the entire Diablo series. But compared to D1/D2 I think there's much more to do. Farming Demonic Essences like crazy to craft godly trifecta gloves/amulets.

    If you want constant major updates of content in a game, you need to play an MMORPG like WoW. (Maybe PoE is the exception and has awesome upgrades for free every few weeks, but it's just nothing you could ever expect from Diablo 3).

    I dont get why we cant expect it from d3. If many many people want these very suggestions and i see that theyre looking for suggestions so why cant this work.

    Why would Blizzard shell out the money for this B2P title to make it MMO-like, when they already own the largest subscription MMO around? Not a business decision they'll make. You paid for the game, and patches is what you'll get. Whether you continue playing, or played for two minutes, Blizzard still got your money for this time around.

    Major content will be an expansion. Fixes/patches till then.

    Fact is, I still laugh heartily when I hear the 'D3 is a failure' line. Really? Record sales of 12 million in 2012 is a failure *on a B2P title*? Sure, Blizzard's bank account is sure feeling empty after that, I'm sure.

    Have they had to tweak the game and patch it? Sure. D2 sucked worse on launch day, really. Much of what I see people nostalgic about D2 talking about is stuff we didn't see till a couple patches after LoD! Not sure if it's short memories, or people who just aren't old enough to remember actual launch.


    You think all the people who played D2 played online and/or played more than a month or two?
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    posted a message on Autenticator 100% safe?
    Quote from Bananaramaaah

    there is no documented case of a hack.

    although a lot of people say, there are a lot... it's a stupid rumor :)
    you are 99.99999% safe

    The only documented case(s) are from when the authenticator was pretty new; there were a couple of real-time, man-in-the-middle attacks done on WoW accounts, but, I think Blizzard has put in measures to combat even that now. (Man in the middle: they compromise your machine in such a way to redirect your login traffic to their servers, not Blizzard's. They give you an error, and then take your login credentials, including auth# and log in within the 30 seconds before the number expires. This only gets them in the account for one session. They can't change password or 'own' the account, just a quit strip-and-mail job.)

    With all the low-hanging fruit out there w/o authenticators, and people using the same password on Bnet as on forums that get hacked all the time, the hackers don't bother with authenticated accounts. So, the authenticator isn't absolutely foolproof, but, it makes you a target they won't bother with. They have lists of email addresses and passwords gotten from hacking stuff, and they just troll for hits on any of them. They get one and get in, bam, you're hacked. They get a hit, and it asks for an authenticator #, and they move on to the next one. (I work in IT security, I see lists of 1000s of address/password pairs every week. I get them to check for any email accounts compromised the same way that I'm responsible for at my work.)
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    posted a message on Help me to understand what is wrong with this game.
    Quote from Indimix

    Thats a good point mavfin, maybe we killed the game by using the AH too often/soon.

    I'm not immune to it. I realized I had done the above to myself on my first 60, so, I deleted that 60, sold the gear for gold, and made a new toon. The only gains I kept from the first toon were what cash I had put into training artisans, and the stash. I've had a lot more fun on the new toon(s). I've only bought one item yet, and I had just had horrible luck on a weapon. I didn't buy the top, I bought something cheap that was still a nice 40% upgrade in damage to get me past my block. I'm enjoying the game still, though I'm not *only* playing D3. I'll play in my free time for 2-4 days, then play other games, then go back in a week or so. This game has plenty of longevity for me.

    YMMV.
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    posted a message on Help me to understand what is wrong with this game.
    One of the biggest problems with drops and the AH is caused by players not thinking things through.

    As one poster points out, don't go buy the best stuff on the AH, then whine that no upgrades drop. You already bought them. Play the game and only buy an upgrade if you absolutely can't progress w/o it, and even if you do buy it, buy a bargain that's just good enough to get you over the hump.

    Then, when things drop, or you gamble at the blacksmith, things can actually be upgrades, and be fun.

    It's your choice. If you ruin your own chance for upgrades by buying all your gear off the AH...it's not Blizzard's fault, it's yours.
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    posted a message on Can i farm all the mats for Whimsyshire in normal?
    Quote from Gorechild

    But theres 4 seperate staffs :)

    Yeah, but the other 3 after the first one just take the recipe (which you get from a vendor once you down Izual in a difficulty after Normal), the previous difficulty's staff, and gold.
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    posted a message on Droprates hotfixed from Act 3 Hell on up
    Quote from Findulidas

    Quote from mavfin

    On front page.

    Yes, why did you create this thread again?

    Because some people tend to come straight to the forums. I do, anyway.

    I saw it somewhere else, checked if it was up on the page here, and mentioned it. So sue me. :P
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    posted a message on Droprates hotfixed from Act 3 Hell on up
    On front page. Droprates for ilvl 61-63 items raised across the board, along with a couple other things.
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