I find it amazing that people are defending Jay Wilson with the arguments that they are making. Sure he may be a normal guy on his days off, but he has a responsibility to his position and his fans to keep his cool. Dave told it like it is. He was civil about it but hell I'm an honest guy too, I'd say the same thing. I'd rather have people say what's on their mind than live in this westernize society where people are all facetious and pretending to be nice. Who wouldn't? Oh that's right, people who prefer Lah Lah land.
To the person saying that the average age of players on the forums is 27, that's a bullshit number. I mean seriously what 12 year old would admit they're actually 12 years old. Yes there are a lot of immature adults as well and there are also a lot of rational adults to boot. So who the hell cares? Why does it even matter for you to claim that complainers are childish adults? You think their opinions are invalid because they are immature? In all honesty, you need to check yourself. Maybe take a step back and look at what you're saying and ask yourself whether you're doing the same thing. It bugs me when people throw out "facts" and make other people feel stupid especially when they are arguing for something just as stupid. (sigh) Hate breeds hate, guess this is true in this case.
My 2 cents and only post.
Edit: To the people talking crap about hellgate and mythos. They were innovatively conceived games with cult followings. They may have not been widely popular or even successful, but they were appreciated by hardcore gamers. Simply saying hellgate and mythos were bad games is just ignorant. Just like how saying D3 is bad game is also ignorant. D3 is a fine stand alone game with great appeal. It just shouldn't be called Diablo 3.
To be honest I don't understand why people hate on pvp so much. Too hard to play against players as opposed to AI? I've heard countless arguments from both sides and to be honest I believe that in the end competitive PvP (esports) is what's going to allow a game to thrive.
For example. When The Burning Crusade for WoW came out, the arena following was HUGE. A lot of general pvp demographic knew the top players and the top teams by name. In the Blizzcon 2008 tournaments there was just as many people watching the 3v3 arena matches as there are people watching the Starcraft/WC3 matches. So what about Blizzcon 2011? You guessed it, small turn-out indeed. WoW still has a tremendous amount of players. But the players are just zombies in that game now. Sure there are die hard PvE guilds with die hard PvE players who only log on during raid hours, but come on, there's a reason why the game is slowly dying despite the creative innovations implemented in the PvE encounters.... BECAUSE THERE IS NO HYPE. There is no venue platform where die hard fans are screaming at the top of their lungs, chanting for their team. PvE brings excitement to an individual, not as a group.
So I ask, please don't turn D3 into a game that's only surviving because of numerous expansions. And please let it survive because of the passion that the players have for the game.
TL;DR: PvP eSports is the way to go; just as watching an NFL game is better than watching people playing Madden against AI's.
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To the person saying that the average age of players on the forums is 27, that's a bullshit number. I mean seriously what 12 year old would admit they're actually 12 years old. Yes there are a lot of immature adults as well and there are also a lot of rational adults to boot. So who the hell cares? Why does it even matter for you to claim that complainers are childish adults? You think their opinions are invalid because they are immature? In all honesty, you need to check yourself. Maybe take a step back and look at what you're saying and ask yourself whether you're doing the same thing. It bugs me when people throw out "facts" and make other people feel stupid especially when they are arguing for something just as stupid. (sigh) Hate breeds hate, guess this is true in this case.
My 2 cents and only post.
Edit: To the people talking crap about hellgate and mythos. They were innovatively conceived games with cult followings. They may have not been widely popular or even successful, but they were appreciated by hardcore gamers. Simply saying hellgate and mythos were bad games is just ignorant. Just like how saying D3 is bad game is also ignorant. D3 is a fine stand alone game with great appeal. It just shouldn't be called Diablo 3.
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For example. When The Burning Crusade for WoW came out, the arena following was HUGE. A lot of general pvp demographic knew the top players and the top teams by name. In the Blizzcon 2008 tournaments there was just as many people watching the 3v3 arena matches as there are people watching the Starcraft/WC3 matches. So what about Blizzcon 2011? You guessed it, small turn-out indeed. WoW still has a tremendous amount of players. But the players are just zombies in that game now. Sure there are die hard PvE guilds with die hard PvE players who only log on during raid hours, but come on, there's a reason why the game is slowly dying despite the creative innovations implemented in the PvE encounters.... BECAUSE THERE IS NO HYPE. There is no venue platform where die hard fans are screaming at the top of their lungs, chanting for their team. PvE brings excitement to an individual, not as a group.
So I ask, please don't turn D3 into a game that's only surviving because of numerous expansions. And please let it survive because of the passion that the players have for the game.
TL;DR: PvP eSports is the way to go; just as watching an NFL game is better than watching people playing Madden against AI's.