You talk about some other stuff and gear and an act of god but that doesn't cut it m8. Diabloprogress is your proof ? what's next ,paper dps in game ? The site doesn't' take into account so many things ,like for example +dmg on earthquakes ,the fact that our main source of dmg is earthquake and cooldowns play such a big part and the list goes on and on .its a tool to help you a bit but no means to compare.
If you want to compare you can see that you got : (1.9(fire)*1.74(elite))=3.306 VS mine:(1.53(fire)*1.28(earthquake)*1.65(elite))=3.231 multiplier on earthquakes (not even counting your hammers vs battle rage and frenzy(+25% dmg).
As you can see the difference in dps is so very minimal and probably not in your favor either ,however in terms of toughness I got you hands down, as I can survive in T6 in a group thanks to 6sec cd on ignore pain ,while you will probably melt away at the first moonseed you happen to come across....
Don't know why you turned this thread into a pissing contest nor do Icare but I came here to help other barbarians do T6 effectively in group play.
The difference is incredibly huge in the gap between both of us. Your toughness is the exact same as mine rofl and I have a better pride belt than you do...More hp and also I have shoulders with +earthquake damage and bracers of which add +26% damage on each pull if I wanted pure eq damage. I also have hexing pants if I wanted to use the garbage rorg. Diablo progress doesn't lie when it comes to calculating damage, You're just an elitist who bashed a unity and I put you in your place and you didnt like it. The ring is working as intended so get over it and yes I clear t6 faster than you ever will and in my raekor set 8-10 mins 1 t6 rift.
The fact that if I put on some other pieces I have I could literally on sheet have 1million elite dps on you, how do you think your barb even compares or hits "top 10" in comparison to my gear?
Why so angry m8 ? why defend something that is obviously overpowered? How much is that double speed of yours? Unfortunately I can only compare with ghom t6 kills ,where we can measure things.
90% of the ppl also play with friends and other ppl where this mechanic just doesn't work ,don't you want your class to be able to survive without bad mechanics? Do you want to change your build /gear every time you join someone?
When you play solo you are free to use your unity and be happy and awesome but makes me wonder if you never play with group or if your double speed grinds to a halt.
Considering I have 1 of the best geared barbs in the world....
Personally, I consider unity+follower not dying combo that everyone uses and is "proud" lets say mmm less honourable and unfortunately the perma ancients although much more manly(cause of cd and dying)can not survive T5/T6 and while on cd you will probably die(assuming you use lightning rune for 50% reduction).
So,what can a barbarian do to effectively survive T6 ,at a good speed and not rely on clunky/abusive/bad mechanics?
Well for T6 we are assuming you have at least 3 set MotE and the Ring of Royal Grandeur ,after searches in these and other forums and tries(crafting tries),I found so far at least,that the best way to survive is to use ignore pain and improve it as much as possible.
By using multiple sets and the Pride Of Cassius belt,stacking cd reduction i was able to lower significantly the downtime of ignore pain.
Although i had even more reduction (49.27%) I am currently sitting on 44.23%(but with more dps)+ 5 sec from belt,effectively having ignore pain every 6.7 sec and thus able to upgrade my dps even more since ignore pain is taking care of my defences.
For reference, I am able to kill ghom t6 solo, no unity,not even follower to heal or anything,just using ignore pain and pot if needed ,at 37 sec (which translates to 77.9mil/sec dps).
I am only here to show that there are other ways too ,not to boast or anything else.
Less honorable? Clunky mechanics? Idk why people are so silly. Unity is in fact working as intended and giving players an edge in solo play. Wear unity in a team game and see how god awful it is. I'm sorry but im sure with my setup I can clear t6 at double the speed which trasnlates to non turtle speed, and its mostly the cry babies who dont have unity who complain its crap, clunky, garbage ect. Oh gee wow didn't realize I just farmed and got 2 and didnt cry about how op it was. Now I have 6 unity's gg to me.
But is it viable without Unity exploit on T5-T6 ? Dont think so...
Well considering unity isn't a trick and is infact working as intended, it is a bis ring for solo play. I mean think about it, they fixed the a3 helm and unity and the follower item giving you 30% resource reduction permanently. Stop crying and get a unity, I never cried when I didn't have one, I did what's meant to be done, farm not qq and more farm and guess what? Now I have one and now I crush t6 rifts in 8-10 minutes.
Leapquake barb, let's get it fixed!I am of course talking about the leap animation. The earthen might fix wasn't all that bad, you can find ways around it. For bad players you are going to learn to adapt, even I admit the fury return was far to good.Anyhow, my real frustration was the animation "tweak" blizzard did instead of making male barbs up to snuff with female barbs they just put a small delay during leaps. To most people and trolls this doesn't make sense to them? Why?
We're really grateful for the feedback regarding this change, and I'd like to provide some insight regarding why this change came to pass in this manner.
The animations between the male and female Barbarian for Leap is something that's been different for quite some time, since the original Diablo III release in fact. Of course, the difference wasn't very noticeable as, at the time, you couldn'tLeapmultiple times back to back.
With the introduction ofLut Socks, this magnified the previously unnoticed difference, and we agreed that we needed to fix it to make sure both animations were completing at the same time and therefore performing equally. We do agree the fix went in the wrong direction, and as a result you'll see a change in a future patch where both Barbarian genders will Leap at not only a faster pace than the current implementation, but faster than the original female animation.
I still don't think ww is viable at all in high torment. Idk what people classify as speed running but I can easily average 8-10 minutes a t6 rift. Hota is the best atm and it beats the eq nerf.
holy fuck earthquake is still the best aoe and single target spell. stop complaining.
I don't understand the arrogance of some people and the need to be a forum warrior. We're simply stating eq took a huge hit today and I wont run the build anymore its THAT bad.
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the delay of the leap now on the female barb, it drives me crazy personally lol. I feel like earthquake took a hard nerf this patch.
Lol unity isn't an exploit and name a barb streamer who isn't using cota besides Alkaizer who farms xp all day, "fun" or "winning" Would you rather beat your head against a pillow or wall? not using it is the definition of stupid so be jelly. I have videos and streamed multiple times with no "cota" exploit.
Judging by your posts in this forum, you are an arrogant person. I see no reason to argue with you, because it's pointless.
But don't stop, make more useless videos/guides/whatever.
I guess I'm arrogant because I don't put up with forum warrior trollage and kids who are too lazy to do some research. All the unity exploit posts are just absurd as its been state working as intended.
I think it's funny people insist unity is a bug. It has been confirmed by a blue post it's working as intended. Guess I'll have to make a new video without "cota" to prove this is a viable build as I've given away t6 rift boss kills over and over on stream.
Too bad, maybe you could realize that you are missing something cruical when comparing ww and hota.
Bring back soh op proc? That would only make it so lightning ww is the only useful rune so seriously, that's not a fix.
[...] So basically lightning is the only useful rune because bis items are lightning procs. Blizzard are a bunch of monkeys lol.
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WW is still a dumper and it should still be t6 viable, right now it is nowhere near t6 viable and its an awful skill yet a SIGNATURE skill. When you get Raekor fury isn't an issue and WW should be a choice over hota.
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http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/solesurvivor-2139/Sole/13573143
lol
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/barrybondz-1111/motormouse/17437659
The fact that if I put on some other pieces I have I could literally on sheet have 1million elite dps on you, how do you think your barb even compares or hits "top 10" in comparison to my gear?
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Of course lightning is still strong xD
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The animations between the male and female Barbarian for Leap is something that's been different for quite some time, since the original Diablo III release in fact. Of course, the difference wasn't very noticeable as, at the time, you couldn'tLeapmultiple times back to back.
With the introduction ofLut Socks, this magnified the previously unnoticed difference, and we agreed that we needed to fix it to make sure both animations were completing at the same time and therefore performing equally. We do agree the fix went in the wrong direction, and as a result you'll see a change in a future patch where both Barbarian genders will Leap at not only a faster pace than the current implementation, but faster than the original female animation.
thank god.
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WW is still a dumper and it should still be t6 viable, right now it is nowhere near t6 viable and its an awful skill yet a SIGNATURE skill. When you get Raekor fury isn't an issue and WW should be a choice over hota.
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