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    posted a message on Post Patch: Ball Lightning vs Nether Tentacles
    Quote from Draco_Draco

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    Yeah, if you can't even aim the huge aoe of Ball Lightning/NT, then use Multishot.

    Because various mobs doesn't have a habbit of running around like spastic retards, right? (quillfiends, Molok's, Those suicide-poison-deviled thingies, Fallen mages, Hounds, Fallen soldiers all seem to have a habbit of running around like retards when I get them as elite, farming act 3. "aiming" is not the issue, but knowing where the mob will be in 3 seconds when the ball actually reaches mob-distance is. Not to mention that they can walk out of the second hit even if the first hits, especially if they're small mobs, making it a 78.5% weapon dmg attack).

    Yes, well you do make a point there, but that justifies having half as much AoE against swarms of goatmen and fallen? against mobs running around like crazy there's Devouring Arrow, you can't sustain Multishot with that hatred cost for long anyway, so it's only a fraction of your DPS against elites.

    And you use Ball Lightning over Devouring arrow to take out elites? Thats even more odd. Besides, it's not "half the damage" versus hordes of goatmen and fallen - it's 165% weapon dmg per shot vs 155% weapon dmg per shot for multishot vs ball lightning.
    Sustainability is not really an argument either, as there's no packs of mobs that requires AOE that should be able to survive 7 multishots in a row.
    Ball lightning does less dmg.
    Ball lightning is "harder" to hit with.
    Ball lightning is less reliable due to the traveltime and having to hit mobs twice to do its full dmg.

    With 2 targets ball lightning already does more dps than devouring. Why not ?
    It is half, if you empty your hatred globe. It's 155% for 10 hatred against 165% for 20 hatred.
    If you have enough dps to kill elite packs in 7 multishots, you could make almost anything work in the place you're farming.
    Sure it does less damage, ~6% less than multishot for half the cost. Also, the aoe of ball lightning is so wide, consider consulting an optometrist if you can't hit with it. It could also argue that ball lightning is more reliable as by the time the monster reacts to the first ball lightning hit, a stream of it is already en route.

    Imo multishot is only clearly better in a few scenarios : Very fast mobs that BL can't hit twice reliably, large numbers of enemies coming in from multiple angles, enemies with extremely erratic pathing(if you haven't snared them or forced them into chokepoints already)
    Posted in: Demon Hunter: The Dreadlands
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    posted a message on DH Damage Reduction Build??
    Quote from minster215

    Also with the latest change to NT it will only hit each target once, so lets say it does 20k damage, you'll get 600 health back.

    Not quite. With the inferno 80% penalty to life leech you would be leeching 0.6% instead, no ? That would make it a mindblowing 120 health.
    Posted in: General Discussion (non-Diablo)
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    posted a message on I've (literally) been in a coma for six months, what happened?
    Quote from proletaria

    I just started my witch doctor and am making my way through act1, huzzah!

    Might want to reconsider that. They broke (arguably) your most powerful offensive spell this patch almost completely and won't be fixing it till next patch (god knows when that will be). Also I hear some passives have been broken since launch and still have not been fixed for wd.


    edit: as much as the negativity is depressing, there are some valid concerns in the QQ imo. Glaring bugs that would have been apparent if the patch was tested even once before making it live are fueling much of the rage. It gives the general impression that the QA and development team don't even test the effects of what they do in-game, they just make up pretty numbers on spreadsheets and call it a day.
    Posted in: General Discussion (non-Diablo)
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    posted a message on Nether Tenticle Major nerf
    Quote from anderle

    3 pages of pain and agony...Feels like you actually didn't leveled-up your DHs by yourselves. How can you be so blind not to realize how Ball Lightning was and will be the best choice for an Elemental Arrow ability. It is the best AOE ability in the game beside zombie bears.

    I don't even know why did you like nether Tentacles so much because we all got 1 shotted no matter what, and those 3% heal was useless because there was nothing to heal.

    Then you are either a troll or a fool, since tentacles used to hit as often as ball lightning but at full damage at the cost of a smaller aoe. No one uses it for the leech. NO ONE.
    Posted in: Demon Hunter: The Dreadlands
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    posted a message on Why do it?
    Quote from Storm68

    I'am a gamer, I play for fun, I play for entertainment.

    You've answered your own question. Some people simply find the quest for better gear fun and entertaining, like playing the slots at a casino. Your inability to understand what they're saying stems from you not finding said quest fun and hence assuming that it isn't fun for everyone else too. They really should teach objectivity in schools.
    Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
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    posted a message on DiabloFans Calculator Build Contest (ONE POST ONLY)
    http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#aUgOjl!ZXT!YcZcY

    The build revolves around MOAR ENERGY TWISTERS. Magic missile is runed to generate more AP, allowing you to spam more twisters. Stormchaser rune on energy twister then causes magic missile to fire more energy twisters !

    Slow time provides both an offensive and defensive cd by slowing monsters into a clump to be hit by twisters while teleport and energy armor provide mobility and passive defenses. Familiar is runed to be a straight up damage increase.

    Temporal flux provides even more snaring while astral presence compensates for the maximum AP loss from energy armor and provides vital AP generation. Arcane dynamo is a suitable 3rd passive since both the signature and energy twister will be used often
    Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
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