Duels and hostility is not what this topic is about. I could care less if they were added or not.
We have already discussed that negativity is an invalid argument because it's not the game that creates it or encourages it. It is the players that do. Furthermore negativity is subject to opinion which makes it even more invalid. The fact that it is to confusing is also an invalid argument.
You keep bringing up Diablo 2 when no one mentioned it. I never compared Diablo 3 PvP to Diablo 2 PvP because they are not the same exapecialy no without hostility. I would know I have played both of them.
Diablo 3 is already set up to be a great eSports game all it need is rankings and custom areans and maybe a spectator mode. Which all of this can be done and more a lot easier than creating a new expansion (which they are going to do anyways).
It is not support when they can easily implement such features but won't. As in Diablo 2 they weren't capable of doing so.
They have already stated that the game is finished, they finished weeks ago. All they are doing is server stress test which help the game as a whole. They have even stated that the only thing they are going to be working on in next few months is the PvP. We all know that they already gotten soo far since last Blizzcon. It is not like they are going to stop working on the PvP when it comes out either.
Sooner or later they will implement such features to make it an eSports anyway. They don't have to support it, the community will make it a great eSports without Blizzard.
As a side note stop acting high and mighty by accusing everyone that disagrees with you as wrong or saying they avoided you question. The only fact there is, is that everything here is people's opinions and last time I checked opinion can't be right or wrong they can only agree or disagree.
- 5/9/2012 6:38:13 PM Posted in: PvP Discussion
5/9/2012 2:09:43 AM
I only get angry when people accuse me of not reading the material and call me ignorant even if they don't outright say it.Posted in: PvP Discussion
Fist let me reword what I said about hostility. It would not be hostility if it was consented between players it would be duels like you have in WoW.
For the last time I know what Blizzard has said and where they stand. I am telling you and Blizzard it would not be confusing. They give us our features such as rankings and privite arenas and just say "we don't support eSports. The players will make it one on their own.
As for why they just don't do it? I think they are going to, it seems pretty inevitable to me.
5/8/2012 11:31:20 PM
Shut up with the "its to confusing" already. The only one that is confused is you. Blizzard can easily implement such PvP features without supporting eSports end point.Posted in: PvP Discussion
Second nobody said anything about hostility you are just giving us garbage to distract us.
Blizzard doesn't need to run "two games" all the have to do is give us our PvP features and never touch the PvP again. We will handle EVERYTHING else.
You are just an angry person that doesn't want to share.
5/8/2012 4:40:09 PM
Yes I agree. Option one is the middle ground.Posted in: PvP Discussion
5/7/2012 3:52:41 AM
There is no right answer it is all opinionated. Then they give you their opinions and you ignore them or treat them like children/idiots and say "your wrong" or "avoided my question". Now your saying you don't accept the answer unless it is your answer. My answer to your question is no I don't think competitiveness creates negativity or enables it. You will find the same "negativity" throughout the whole game, because it is in the players not the game. You are a very competitive person evident by you posting so rigorously on this forum and others about your anti-competitiveness. Furthermore, I think you are just trolling to distract everyone about what this forum is supposed to be about.Posted in: PvP Discussion
5/6/2012 7:44:28 PM
Negativity is subject to opinion.Posted in: PvP Discussion
If Blizzard really didn't want competitive PvP then they shouldn't have put it in at all. No matter how restricted it is, people will want more, these forums for example. The PvE will have the same amount of "negativity" as the PvP, because it is the person who is negative. People are answering your questions but I guess you don't want to read them.
5/2/2012 9:54:28 PM
Well you avoided my question too, wich is, do you think that people are going to want more PvP features when it comes out? Whether or not the players are casual players or competitive, the will want more. Second question, (more of a statement), you want to control how you play the game and so does everyone else. That's why I'm posting and why you are posting and everyone on the middle.Posted in: PvP Discussion
This is obviously my opion so you don't have to comment on it. Also when the PvP come out the main focus of people is going to be interested in PvP. People are not going to have it for at least 8 months (wich is two months after the predicted inferno completion) if not longer. Whether or not people are tired of the PvE content they will flock to the PvP when it comes out because it is fresh and new. I also assume that the majority of the players to on to the forums and decide what side the are on. So the "majority" of players will be blindly asking for PvP features and visa versa with the "minority". Nobody can predict what millions of people are going to want.
Also when people can play and COMMUNICATE with each other there will always be negative environments. The only way to avoid that would be to play by yourself or Blizzard takes out the communication between players, wich they can't. Even if your on the same side it is still player versus player unless the game has no challenge at all. In hardcore you are not going to run with someone that could get you killed. And seeing that you can't die in the arena the PvE will probably breed way more negative environments than PvP, even more so since the "majority" playes PvE.
5/2/2012 8:15:42 PM
When the PvP comes out the the communities focus is going to turn towards it. It will stay that way till they release more PvE content. Then it will slowly go back to PvP. You don't think all those players will not want more PvP features whether they are casual or not? Of corse they will everyone will want some sort of control about how the play the game. And restricting such a major thing as PvP will only make the community mad.Posted in: PvP Discussion
5/2/2012 3:21:39 AM
Thank you d0c, that is probably the most solid argument I have ever heard.Posted in: PvP Discussion
I'm gone for a couple of days and the thread goes out of control lol.
I want competitive PvP, because being competitive is fun to me. I don't think competitive PvP will affect the rest of the game at all. Thoes that want casual can still treat it as such.
Let's take a recap of the thread.
It started off as who thinks Diablo 3 should be an eSports? How it would effect it or nor. What exactly each side wanted. Then how it can or can't be, to why it should and why it shouldn't be an eSports. Then it broke even further down to casual verses competitive. Then whether or not competitive PvP was fun at all. All the way down ro the definition of fun. Then everything I between such as what features are competitive or not like multiple arena modes, rankings. Also the general sense of majorities versus minorities, and of corse the repeated statements of who's side Blizzard is on. So what have we all learned? That it is PvE'ers versus the PvP'ers and how they don't want PvP affecting PvE. Check. Casual versus competitive, they don't care if there is competitive features as long as it it still casual. Check. It won't be an eSports if there isn't a large fan base and funding. Check. Did I miss anything?
5/1/2012 2:36:31 PM
I think all classes are going to do fine. It seems to me to be more about survivability than damage output.Posted in: PvP Discussion
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